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On September 15 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: but are you the martyr? WTF rayn I agree the martyr should claim but this is rolehunting Now the martyr has no choice but to claim. Several people have already said it's not them
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On September 15 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:WTF rayn I agree the martyr should claim but this is rolehunting Now the martyr has no choice but to claim. Several people have already said it's not them i know that was the plan.
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Like i am sorry if i am gonna force people into doing something but that is literally the best play and depending on who the martyr is they either gain nothing by not claiming or they fuck up something which makes it worse.
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On September 15 2015 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: but are you the martyr? WTF rayn I agree the martyr should claim but this is rolehunting Now the martyr has no choice but to claim. Several people have already said it's not them i know that was the plan. I agree 100% martyr should claim BUT IF martyr doesn't claim, we now risk getting him souped by POE if for example the inquisitor claims his red check D2
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The thing with the martyr is that he learns who gets killed and hence who is town during the night if I understand correctly, he should try to do some decent crumbs even at the risk of being too obvious.
And the witches only learn the roles of who they kill if their rolecop role survives.
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actually I think I'm over reacting if martyr doesn't claim it means he will protect N1 100% so it doesn't matter
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On September 15 2015 17:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: but are you the martyr? WTF rayn I agree the martyr should claim but this is rolehunting Now the martyr has no choice but to claim. Several people have already said it's not them i know that was the plan. I agree 100% martyr should claim BUT IF martyr doesn't claim, we now risk getting him souped by POE if for example the inquisitor claims his red check D2 which is why i am doing what i am. I am not giving them option. They don't have that option anymore since like half of the game has basically said they are not the martyr.
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On September 15 2015 17:05 Vivax wrote: The thing with the martyr is that he learns who gets killed and hence who is town during the night if I understand correctly, he should try to do some decent crumbs even at the risk of being too obvious.
And the witches only learn the roles of who they kill if their rolecop role survives. I think it's too dangerous for unclaimed martyr to not protect because: 1 - he can get killed by POE soup now that several people have claimed not being the martyr 2 - his claim will be harder to prove. If he claims D1 we can 100% believe him if no counter claim
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On September 15 2015 17:08 Rels wrote: 2 - his claim will be harder to prove. If he claims D1 we can 100% believe him if no counter claim this is the reason why the claim should come right away. we get a confirmed town right away and do not waste time reading their alignment.
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On September 15 2015 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 17:04 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: but are you the martyr? WTF rayn I agree the martyr should claim but this is rolehunting Now the martyr has no choice but to claim. Several people have already said it's not them i know that was the plan. I agree 100% martyr should claim BUT IF martyr doesn't claim, we now risk getting him souped by POE if for example the inquisitor claims his red check D2 which is why i am doing what i am. I am not giving them option. They don't have that option anymore since like half of the game has basically said they are not the martyr. OK OK I agree my problem was that he could not claim because he thinks it's the best play, even if half the game have claimed no martyr. Look at what vivax is saying for example but if he doesn't claim, he's going to protect N1, so it doesn't matter actually
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what do you think of my post on TS ?
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List of people who afked after posting.
LS TheShining Bill Murray Dandel Ion
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On September 15 2015 17:10 Rels wrote: but if he doesn't claim, he's going to protect N1, so it doesn't matter actually no, again, never use the role because YOU ARE A MAFIA ROLECOP!!!! ffs
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On September 15 2015 17:11 Rels wrote: what do you think of my post on TS ? i don't know yet. It makes sense i just don't know if it makes him mafia.
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On September 15 2015 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 17:10 Rels wrote: but if he doesn't claim, he's going to protect N1, so it doesn't matter actually no, again, never use the role because YOU ARE A MAFIA ROLECOP!!!! ffs it is in case he doesn't claim. In this case, he SHOULD protect 'cause his claim is not going to be believed in later days I 100% agree he should claim
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On September 15 2015 17:11 Vivax wrote: List of people who afked after posting.
LS TheShining Bill Murray Dandel Ion You gave me an idea. Let me check some filters
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On September 15 2015 17:13 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 17:10 Rels wrote: but if he doesn't claim, he's going to protect N1, so it doesn't matter actually no, again, never use the role because YOU ARE A MAFIA ROLECOP!!!! ffs it is in case he doesn't claim. In this case, he SHOULD protect 'cause his claim is not going to be believed in later days I 100% agree he should claim NONONONONO!
If yo uuse the martyr role all it does is one dead townie (which would be anyways), town learns nothing (saying you can crumb who you save is fucking bullshit because you cannot do that), mafia gets a free rolecheck.
It's literally an anti-town role when used!!!!
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On September 15 2015 17:05 Vivax wrote: The thing with the martyr is that he learns who gets killed and hence who is town during the night if I understand correctly, he should try to do some decent crumbs even at the risk of being too obvious.
And the witches only learn the roles of who they kill if their rolecop role survives.
I don't like this post
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On September 15 2015 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 17:13 Rels wrote:On September 15 2015 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 17:10 Rels wrote: but if he doesn't claim, he's going to protect N1, so it doesn't matter actually no, again, never use the role because YOU ARE A MAFIA ROLECOP!!!! ffs it is in case he doesn't claim. In this case, he SHOULD protect 'cause his claim is not going to be believed in later days I 100% agree he should claim NONONONONO! If yo uuse the martyr role all it does is one dead townie (which would be anyways), town learns nothing (saying you can crumb who you save is fucking bullshit because you cannot do that), mafia gets a free rolecheck. It's literally an anti-town role when used!!!! I wrote an answer to that, but it is super useless since we agree martyr should claim anyway
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OK let's bring back this little thing.
The useful list of useless people The Shining HTS LS fidei Dandel Ion
If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard
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