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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 15 2015 08:23 GMT
#181
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
OK let's bring back this little thing.

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
HTS
LS
fidei
Dandel Ion

If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard

so you want to lynch lurkers?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 15 2015 08:23 GMT
#182
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
OK let's bring back this little thing.

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
HTS
LS
fidei
Dandel Ion

If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard

oh no
A backwards poet writes inverse.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 08:24 GMT
#183
On September 15 2015 17:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
OK let's bring back this little thing.

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
HTS
LS
fidei
Dandel Ion

If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard

so you want to lynch lurkers?

actually yes this is the correct play.

i am soon gonna write something and then i hope that shit is not gonna be talked about anymore.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 08:24 GMT
#184
i have to make coffee first.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 08:25 GMT
#185
On September 15 2015 17:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
OK let's bring back this little thing.

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
HTS
LS
fidei
Dandel Ion

If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard

so you want to lynch lurkers?

I want to push people to not be useless
If one refuses he's mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 15 2015 08:25 GMT
#186
Town without a shadow of doubt:

TT
Rels
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 15 2015 08:29 GMT
#187
Oh and it's silent nights so no chance for the martyr to crumb anything during them, only atferwards.

Still, later in the game the role can prove useful cause if he witnesses a witch kill being saved by angels the martyr can confirm him as town after claiming.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 15 2015 08:31 GMT
#188
On September 15 2015 17:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 17:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote:
OK let's bring back this little thing.

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
HTS
LS
fidei
Dandel Ion

If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard

so you want to lynch lurkers?

I want to push people to not be useless
If one refuses he's mafia


I like playin wid dis guy
I can take that responsibility.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 15 2015 08:32 GMT
#189
I think Fecal might be mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 08:33 GMT
#190
On September 15 2015 17:29 Vivax wrote:
Oh and it's silent nights so no chance for the martyr to crumb anything during them, only atferwards.

Still, later in the game the role can prove useful cause if he witnesses a witch kill being saved by angels the martyr can confirm him as town after claiming.

I understand the potential of martyr not claiming and not saving
BUT
Advantages of claiming now: we have 1 confirmed town
Disadvantages of claiming later: martyr can and will be counter claimed AND we have no way of verifying the claim with no flip. We will have to lynch someone else and the real martyr will be souped with the angel saved guy
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 15 2015 08:40 GMT
#191
I'm gonna read SOTW 1 and see what happened there.

Btw FF is in my haircross this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 15 2015 08:40 GMT
#192
haircross -.-

crosshair
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 08:48 GMT
#193
Okay now read this post very carefully:

Last time i played this game this is what happened.
On D1 we lynched the cop because they were retarded and didn't play at all. Later on in the angel QT his response was "what's the point of being a cop when you can't claim" which was even more retarded. Not only did he get himself lynched as a cop, he also gave away the acolyte role to mafia because there was this dude who was hard defending them for not a single reason... well other than knowing who the cop is lol. Before the lynch we had another role-claim from a scummy person. He claimed an uncounterclaimable role and technically that was the correct play. But he gave away another role to mafia.

On D2 i found two mafia. I told everyone to just fucking shut up and insta-lynch this guy, and then say nothing and insta-lynch that guy. Obviously people didn't listen to me (yes, in certain situations the correct play in this setup is just to shut up and lynch the mafia so dumb people don't give anything away). Another townie gave away he is one of two roles left in the game to mafia. We lynched scum.

On N2, mafia souped someone, only one person, then they "tried to soup" one of their own - giving away the already almost confirmed mafia to buy town credit to the other mafia left (because they just needed time to figure out maybe 1 or 2 more roles). Obviously the last scum got townread for that.

On D3 we lynched another mafia. On N3 mafia killed a townie whose role was oracle. Because people had given away enough roles this flip - to mafia, gave away every single role from town except for 2 of them.

On D4 i wantedd people to massclaim. That would have fucking won the game because mafia could not claim something they would have wanted to (as they fucked up a bit in the "self-soup"). I was one of the roles mafia did not know yet (still, lynching a townie gives mafia 50% chance of winning here - in a fucking 7-1 situation). Instead of following the claim plan the retarded town decided i have to be mafia because i want people to claim.

They lynched me. Last mafia souped 6 people and it was ggnore.



The point is the following:
- never hint your role. never. even if the cop is getting lynched and you are the acolyte do not fucking save him by hinting your role.
- do not claim unless someone who knows what they are doing tells you to. apparently geript doesn't know how to play this shit so that someone would be either me or Damdred. noone else.
- martyr claim. please. right now.

- Mafia wins this game by figuring out roles even if we lynch mafia 66% of the time. Yes, that is fucking true. Do not hint your role, ever. Do not give anything away. Do not talk about the setup or ask what is preferred for what role. Just play and try find mafia.
- mafia gets the roles of their night kills, town doesn't. That gives mafia a huge information advantage the further the game goes on. That's why the martyr should claim. Because if mafia kills the claimed martyr they remove the most useless role in the game AND they do not learn anything the town does not know (and the town KNOWS THAT). That is the key point in this game, do not give mafia too much information and do not let mafia too far in this game.
- that is also why you cannot hide behind your role. claiming doesn't save you. in fact in certain situations it's better to lynch the uncc'd townie than to try lynch mafia (assuming town doesn't really know who is mafia). yes it really is. Because otherwise you give too much away.
- and the above is why we WILL lynch lurkers. lurking is not an option in this game. it is not allowed.

I hope you people actually read this post and understand what i am saying. Because every single word is true.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 15 2015 08:53 GMT
#194
I'm taking a leap of faith here that you're town and correct rayn. I'm the martyr.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 08:57 GMT
#195
Thank you. Now you are confirmed town unless someone counter claims you.
Please never use your role. If you do that it STILL loses us one townie (you) and it gives away another role for mafia (their night kill target). It does not matter who mafia kills, do not use your role.

Also you are good enough to solve the game anyways.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
September 15 2015 08:57 GMT
#196
Now let's talk about who can be mafia of those who posted.

I'm at something like FF/geript/BM and some dudes in the good list of shitty dudes that me and Rels posted. Not enough people being townie enough yet.

Also I'd ask that we extend this day to the max since I'm getting souped next night.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 08:57 GMT
#197
And now i believe we should lynch LS because it doesn't make sense to him be town anymore.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 08:58 GMT
#198
On September 15 2015 17:53 Vivax wrote:
I'm taking a leap of faith here that you're town and correct rayn. I'm the martyr.

Cool =D I actually thought that, it made sense that you only thought about the potential of your role without thinking people would not believe you
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2015 08:59 GMT
#199
On September 15 2015 17:57 Vivax wrote:
Now let's talk about who can be mafia of those who posted.

I'm at something like FF/geript/BM and some dudes in the good list of shitty dudes that me and Rels posted. Not enough people being townie enough yet.

Also I'd ask that we extend this day to the max since I'm getting souped next night.

ofc we will have 72h day. IML is not an option here.

I seriously believe LS is mafia. His question to me makes absolutely no sense unless:
1) he is the martyr (which he isn't)
2) he is mafia and doesn't really know how to respond to me saying the martyr should claim

It just does not make any sense for him to take part of that discussion in case he is town and not the martyr.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 08:59 GMT
#200
On September 15 2015 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And now i believe we should lynch LS because it doesn't make sense to him be town anymore.

Would prefer TS right now, but LS is my second choice
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