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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote: OK let's bring back this little thing. The useful list of useless people The Shining HTS LS fidei Dandel Ion If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard so you want to lynch lurkers? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote: OK let's bring back this little thing. The useful list of useless people The Shining HTS LS fidei Dandel Ion If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard oh no | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
actually yes this is the correct play. i am soon gonna write something and then i hope that shit is not gonna be talked about anymore. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
I want to push people to not be useless If one refuses he's mafia | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
TT Rels | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
Still, later in the game the role can prove useful cause if he witnesses a witch kill being saved by angels the martyr can confirm him as town after claiming. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On September 15 2015 17:25 Rels wrote: I want to push people to not be useless If one refuses he's mafia I like playin wid dis guy | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 15 2015 17:29 Vivax wrote: Oh and it's silent nights so no chance for the martyr to crumb anything during them, only atferwards. Still, later in the game the role can prove useful cause if he witnesses a witch kill being saved by angels the martyr can confirm him as town after claiming. I understand the potential of martyr not claiming and not saving BUT Advantages of claiming now: we have 1 confirmed town Disadvantages of claiming later: martyr can and will be counter claimed AND we have no way of verifying the claim with no flip. We will have to lynch someone else and the real martyr will be souped with the angel saved guy | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
Btw FF is in my haircross this game. | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
crosshair | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Last time i played this game this is what happened. On D1 we lynched the cop because they were retarded and didn't play at all. Later on in the angel QT his response was "what's the point of being a cop when you can't claim" which was even more retarded. Not only did he get himself lynched as a cop, he also gave away the acolyte role to mafia because there was this dude who was hard defending them for not a single reason... well other than knowing who the cop is lol. Before the lynch we had another role-claim from a scummy person. He claimed an uncounterclaimable role and technically that was the correct play. But he gave away another role to mafia. On D2 i found two mafia. I told everyone to just fucking shut up and insta-lynch this guy, and then say nothing and insta-lynch that guy. Obviously people didn't listen to me (yes, in certain situations the correct play in this setup is just to shut up and lynch the mafia so dumb people don't give anything away). Another townie gave away he is one of two roles left in the game to mafia. We lynched scum. On N2, mafia souped someone, only one person, then they "tried to soup" one of their own - giving away the already almost confirmed mafia to buy town credit to the other mafia left (because they just needed time to figure out maybe 1 or 2 more roles). Obviously the last scum got townread for that. On D3 we lynched another mafia. On N3 mafia killed a townie whose role was oracle. Because people had given away enough roles this flip - to mafia, gave away every single role from town except for 2 of them. On D4 i wantedd people to massclaim. That would have fucking won the game because mafia could not claim something they would have wanted to (as they fucked up a bit in the "self-soup"). I was one of the roles mafia did not know yet (still, lynching a townie gives mafia 50% chance of winning here - in a fucking 7-1 situation). Instead of following the claim plan the retarded town decided i have to be mafia because i want people to claim. They lynched me. Last mafia souped 6 people and it was ggnore. The point is the following: - never hint your role. never. even if the cop is getting lynched and you are the acolyte do not fucking save him by hinting your role. - do not claim unless someone who knows what they are doing tells you to. apparently geript doesn't know how to play this shit so that someone would be either me or Damdred. noone else. - martyr claim. please. right now. - Mafia wins this game by figuring out roles even if we lynch mafia 66% of the time. Yes, that is fucking true. Do not hint your role, ever. Do not give anything away. Do not talk about the setup or ask what is preferred for what role. Just play and try find mafia. - mafia gets the roles of their night kills, town doesn't. That gives mafia a huge information advantage the further the game goes on. That's why the martyr should claim. Because if mafia kills the claimed martyr they remove the most useless role in the game AND they do not learn anything the town does not know (and the town KNOWS THAT). That is the key point in this game, do not give mafia too much information and do not let mafia too far in this game. - that is also why you cannot hide behind your role. claiming doesn't save you. in fact in certain situations it's better to lynch the uncc'd townie than to try lynch mafia (assuming town doesn't really know who is mafia). yes it really is. Because otherwise you give too much away. - and the above is why we WILL lynch lurkers. lurking is not an option in this game. it is not allowed. I hope you people actually read this post and understand what i am saying. Because every single word is true. | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Please never use your role. If you do that it STILL loses us one townie (you) and it gives away another role for mafia (their night kill target). It does not matter who mafia kills, do not use your role. Also you are good enough to solve the game anyways. | ||
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Vivax
22184 Posts
I'm at something like FF/geript/BM and some dudes in the good list of shitty dudes that me and Rels posted. Not enough people being townie enough yet. Also I'd ask that we extend this day to the max since I'm getting souped next night. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 15 2015 17:53 Vivax wrote: I'm taking a leap of faith here that you're town and correct rayn. I'm the martyr. Cool =D I actually thought that, it made sense that you only thought about the potential of your role without thinking people would not believe you | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 15 2015 17:57 Vivax wrote: Now let's talk about who can be mafia of those who posted. I'm at something like FF/geript/BM and some dudes in the good list of shitty dudes that me and Rels posted. Not enough people being townie enough yet. Also I'd ask that we extend this day to the max since I'm getting souped next night. ofc we will have 72h day. IML is not an option here. I seriously believe LS is mafia. His question to me makes absolutely no sense unless: 1) he is the martyr (which he isn't) 2) he is mafia and doesn't really know how to respond to me saying the martyr should claim It just does not make any sense for him to take part of that discussion in case he is town and not the martyr. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 15 2015 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: And now i believe we should lynch LS because it doesn't make sense to him be town anymore. Would prefer TS right now, but LS is my second choice | ||
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