EPTI know you had a scumlean on him early D1 but I thought you dropped it.
I'd also like to know what your current reads are on LS and myself.
iirc you were reading me scum and LS town right?
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I know you had a scumlean on him early D1 but I thought you dropped it. I'd also like to know what your current reads are on LS and myself. iirc you were reading me scum and LS town right? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On September 19 2015 07:24 LightningStrike wrote: You sure all 3 of them were town? Some thought Shining was scum tbh. Did you think he was scum? | ||
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Tictock
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LightningStrike (2): The Shining (1): Dandel Ion (1): Rels Damdred (5): Holy Grail Vote geript (2): raynpelikoneet, TicTock (1): Rels raynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Half the Sky Vivax (1): geript EoDVote Count LightningStrike (2): The Shining (0): Dandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geript Damdred (2): Bill Murray (0): Holy Grail Vote geript (2): raynpelikoneet, TicTock (1): raynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, Vivax (0): EoDVote Count: Cleaned up with colors! Dandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geript LightningStrike (2): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion Damdred (2): Bill Murray, Vivax Holy Grail Vote geript (7): raynpelikoneet, Bill Murray, geript, Damdred, The Shining, Rels, Dandel Ion Vivax (4): Half the Sky, Vivax, Fidei86, LightningStrike Fecalfeast (1): Fecalfeast Ok this doesn't really tell us a whole lot, or at least I dont see much information from this, but maybe someone who is better with VCA stuff cna read more into it than I, also now we have a couple of VCs for D1 to look at. The runaway train that grew on Dandel probably has all the mafia on it. Rayn has been pretty clearly town, Vivax is unCC'd and I'm leaning town on BM, so that's where I'm going to put my focus. Damdred, LS and FF and an outside chance of Fidei are the people I'm thinking are most likely scum. I'm not really sure if I'm still scum reading Fidei, but I'm gunna leave him on the scummier side of null for now untill I get a chance to reread him. I know that he's playing in multiple games at once so that split of his focus might be affecting my read on him. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Cop (Inquisitor) doesn't NEED to claim if they have a red check imo. In fact I'm not sure it's a good idea at all anymore. Right now we know Vixax is martyr, if Cop claims with a red-check on Damdred then mafia can soup them both tonight, and possibly more if they have some read on other roles. So claiming a redcheck is a 1 mafia for 2 town trade. Given that mafia goes for the soup kill. That would (again assuming we are 7/3 now) put us into a 5/2. Leaving town with the one mislynch before we are in lylo. So think things through yourself, check if I'm right here and if it's still a good call to claim a check in this situation. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
im just gonna leave this here for your enjoyment + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2009 13:06 Xx5k4t3rG0H4NxX wrote: wow u sound like a fukin ungrateful douchebag. be a man n suck it up cuz life aint gonna get better if u think like dat u gotta skate | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
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On September 19 2015 14:57 Tictock wrote: Also, just gunna throw this out there. Cop (Inquisitor) doesn't NEED to claim if they have a red check imo. In fact I'm not sure it's a good idea at all anymore. Right now we know Vixax is martyr, if Cop claims with a red-check on Damdred then mafia can soup them both tonight, and possibly more if they have some read on other roles. So claiming a redcheck is a 1 mafia for 2 town trade. Given that mafia goes for the soup kill. That would (again assuming we are 7/3 now) put us into a 5/2. Leaving town with the one mislynch before we are in lylo. So think things through yourself, check if I'm right here and if it's still a good call to claim a check in this situation. I 100% disagree with this we can afford that... in fact it would be good for town we CANT afford losing 3 in 1 night either way with 3 or with 2 we can do the 2 fer first off, it will prevent a mylo scenario which is awkward 8v2 lynch 7v2 nightkill 6v2 lynch 5v2 nightkill4v2 (mylo) but if you do your scenario 8v2 lynch 7v2 soup 5v2 lynch 4v2 nightkill 3v2 (cleaner... better odds of lynching mafia in lylo ass opposed to mylo) TL;DR with 2 or 3 left we are in an awkward scenario where it will end up in mylo instead of lylo which are better odds for mafia. What do I propose? No lynch? Nope. Wanna know why? Angelic Protection. We have Geript in the graveyard dictating where protections should be from the masses. We get a good lynch, and a good protect, and we are potentially ahead of where we were before. Tictock, I don't scumread you at all anymore. Reads change over the course of a game. I am, and have been, deadset on lynching Damdred. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm just not feeling town-Damdred. I also feel he has overly interacted with FecalFeast, and the way they both acted with the Grail was pretty peculiar. I believe you're asking me about LS? Well, his interactions with Rayn have me leaning town on him, but I saw 1 post he made that reminded me of his scum game. I'm not that good at reading him, so I don't want to be like "ermagerd hez tern" and be wrong | ||
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Vivax
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For that matter we don't even know what Dandel was. Maybe he was grandier, maybe he was crusader, but maybe I'm overestimating his skill. Anyway, that was a really odd night kill. Going to revisit geript and especially rayn. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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If not i am gonna assune damdred is cinfirmed town. If you are a cop and didnt listen to me then just... fuck you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Rels
France13467 Posts
I'm doing stuff on the weekend so I won't be super active. Luckily this day ends on Monday But I'm here for a little while and I've got a few things to say | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 19 2015 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Guys that lynch was realky fucking dumb. Easy to say that in retrospect | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 17 2015 22:16 Rels wrote: In case this is a contested lynch between LS Damdred and Dandel, I need you to read this As rayn posted, it is important that we decide who the inquisitor should check. If we do that: - the oracle has a garanteed hit - if the inquisitor doesn't claim a red check D2, it means that the checked target is town If there is a contested lynch, the person we decided to check might be lynched, and we cannot talk at night in this setup. It could mean the inquisitor and the oracle not knowing who to check. SO Near the end of the day, everybody should state who they want to check in addition to their lynch. In the person they wanted to check is lynched instead, the inquisitor would just have to assume their initial lynch target is their check target. OK ? Yesterday it was really unclear who would be the check target 2 hours before deadline, so we need to not do this again. So, not now, but when the wagons start to be created later in the day, everyone needs to give his opinion on the check target for the night. | ||
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Vivax
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 18 2015 06:14 Rels wrote: OK so we have: Damdred check: rayn Rels TT Hts fidei ff shining Fidei check: geript Maybe the last voters get less points, as at this point it was pretty clear Damdred would be checked though. But they still participated on something that is bad for mafia, which would be unnatural if they were mafia. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 19 2015 18:39 Vivax wrote: Who cares about all this role shit just do some old school scum hunting, nobody should ever claim in this setup. The mafia knows the target of the inquisitor and the oracle. If we don't direct the check, mafia can hunt the oracle and the inquisitor based on the targets they got. + it means the oracle has a 100% target + if the inquisitor doesn't claim, it means the target is green (or the inquisitor is dead) | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
no it was really stupid because the dude fucking claimed the only role that should claim if being lynched.... idk.. maybe i go reread and just see who was there and not unvote and lynch the fuck out of them. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 19 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: no it was really stupid because the dude fucking claimed the only role that should claim if being lynched.... idk.. maybe i go reread and just see who was there and not unvote and lynch the fuck out of them. reread the timestamps he claimed exactly at deadline | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
let's kill LS now okay? at least we can lynch scum today. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 19 2015 18:46 Rels wrote: reread the timestamps he claimed exactly at deadline yeah i got that, the timestamps on new TL are fucking horrible. i hate those. i hate the new design as whole... | ||
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