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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 28 2015 20:58 GMT
#3281
ceph still waiting for "all these townreads I never explained"
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 28 2015 20:59 GMT
#3282
You know palmar if your scum you played this perfectly..
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 28 2015 21:01 GMT
#3283
On September 29 2015 05:57 Damdred wrote:
Palmars case isn't ubreasonable or over reaching, I think its general characterizations that are true.

I think cephs reaction to it has kinda been bad, I think at one point he threatened me last night and thinking it was 80/20 me to palmar but talks to me like I'm town and just acts frustrated with my line of thinking, if someone I think is scum tried to do that I react a bit differently. I think.



either you're in the same headspace as me or you're telling me what i want to hear as i ignorantly lose to you.

swear to god if i lose to you cuz i scumread you against every1 else in the game and talk myself out of it....i am going to never stop voting you any game i even have an inkling you're mafia and will never doubt my soul again.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 28 2015 21:02 GMT
#3284
On September 29 2015 05:59 Damdred wrote:
You know palmar if your scum you played this perfectly..

I kinda wish I was
Computer says mafia
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 28 2015 21:06 GMT
#3285
On September 29 2015 05:49 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 05:43 Cephiro wrote:
It's not "Palmar makes a case on me", it's "The way Palmar played as a whole D3-D4".

As in there are specific actions that point towards a scum!Palmar play rather than a town!Palmar play.


Assuming you have read his filter, give me 3 examples of why he is scum before yesterday. Like I have said, I also don't understand why you think palmar's case is unreasonable because it is literally just quotes of your play, accurate characterizations, and him explaining why he thinks that is mafia. Like he could be wrong on it making you mafia, but factually his case is fine. Hence why I am having trouble grasping why you dropped a read you desperately wanted everyone to sheep to take a 1v1 me bro stance.


1) I did not drop a read that I wanted people to sheep. I truly believed Damdred was the last remaining scum, and accordingly wanted to end the game yesterday. Didn't end up happening, of course I'd have to be careful and re-evaluate with it being LYLO.

2) I didn't say everything about Palmar's case is unreasonable, but the way he presents it is unreasonable. He has some valid points yes, but at least half of those are things I have addressed so fucking many times already that I'm losing count, and it's starting to irritate me to keep repeating the same shit over and over again when it's already there for everyone to see. (Which, if he has read my filter as he has claimed to, would already know)

3) I'm not taking a 1v1 stance because I wanted to, but the fact is that I consider Palmar the last remaining scum, and I believe he's not pushing the cases on me with a pure motive. What do you expect me to do? Start talking about damdred? No, I have to push for the scum to get lynched. I want to win this game, and it just so happens that I have to fight Palmar for it, as he's currently pushing me and I'm pushing him.

As I pointed out before, I don't believe there are very specific things that point toward Palmar being scum earlier in the game. It's more about how differently he started pushing cases D4/D5 compared to his attitude D1-D3. D1-D3 sure, he's fairly active, posts opinions, asks a bit of something every now and then, but as I said before, he does not heavily commit to anything. Which also gives him way more room and options to play with. And because no-one called him out for it because his content was reasonable enough to believe he's town without further pushing, he never did.
Like I can go look through his filter for posts and point out specific posts that are likely to come from scum Palmar, but as I admitted before his D1-D3 play is very solid because he hasn't had to heavily commit. Most of his posts could come from either alignment and as a whole they feel consistent enough which is exactly the reason why me nor anyone else hasn't considered him a valid lynch target so far. I also feel that Palmar has been concentrating on the wrong things too much in hindsight as I already pointed out as well. I explained how it's weird that things that other town players who could easily be argued to have less mafia experience than he does, picked up upon multiple things he did not. I don't feel that Palmar ever was very correct nor pushed mafia during D1-D3. It's more of a "I'd expect better performance from him", thing, which the D4-D5 play intensifies.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 28 2015 21:17 GMT
#3286
palmar do you have any considerations that it might be damdred or are you locked in?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 28 2015 21:18 GMT
#3287
Idk if that necessarily makes him scum though.

just relies on us thinking palmar should be more right than wrong idk.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 28 2015 21:18 GMT
#3288
On September 29 2015 05:58 Palmar wrote:
ceph still waiting for "all these townreads I never explained"


Don't have the time to go through your filter and point out specific posts but I am very sure you never provided any proper reasoning for Koshi being town (as in the same sense as my Onegu read), and just ignored him since he's not worth your time.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 28 2015 21:19 GMT
#3289
On September 29 2015 06:17 ritoky wrote:
palmar do you have any considerations that it might be damdred or are you locked in?

I'm going down with the ship if it's damdred.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 28 2015 21:20 GMT
#3290
On September 29 2015 06:18 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 05:58 Palmar wrote:
ceph still waiting for "all these townreads I never explained"


Don't have the time to go through your filter and point out specific posts but I am very sure you never provided any proper reasoning for Koshi being town (as in the same sense as my Onegu read), and just ignored him since he's not worth your time.

Koshi was extremely townie on day 1. He came out guns blazing and I sort of just ignored him yes. I think he was basically a universal townread anyway.
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 28 2015 21:20 GMT
#3291
I don't think that's fair, koshi was so obvious town it hurt... Onegu wellllll
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 28 2015 21:22 GMT
#3292
The reason I want you to look through it is I specifically remember giving detailed reasons for townreads on: rayn, moosy, jat, wile, damdred etc.

Like you just said that without worrying about if it's right or not.
Computer says mafia
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 28 2015 21:25 GMT
#3293
sigh regardless if i end up being right or wrong, i feel like i have played bad and should feel bad. maybe it's the whole having a newborn kid thing being a distraction.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 28 2015 21:26 GMT
#3294
Palmar you were really Marv centric in your filter but said you are trying to give him space. Kind of weird?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 28 2015 21:27 GMT
#3295
Unfortunately I can't recall all of those right now (such as jat, and I guess you sheeped dam's argument for Wile counts), but it was a comment mainly because of the sentence where you pointed out what reads you've been correct in and which not, which included that were never really relevant (like the scott thing I pointed out, it's not really correctly reading someone if you never lynch someone never up for lynch).

Sorry if you took it as if most of your townreads wouldn't have been talked about, didn't mean to come off that way. Just pointed out they weren't all completely valid either.

In any case, we're about to run out of time. Lynch Palmar or lose the game.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 28 2015 21:28 GMT
#3296
i just don't think it's palmar....maybe it is, if it is he has played extremely well.

i think it is probably ceph or damdred. palmar not moving onto damdred, damdred not self-voting means if it is damdred we just lose. so let's just hope it is ceph.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 28 2015 21:29 GMT
#3297
If you people aren't going to change your mind then town just lost the game. Just think of all the reasoning I provided, there's no way in hell I'm scum and it should be obvious.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 28 2015 21:29 GMT
#3298
Like I can't believe out of all places you people are about to mislynch me in fucking LYLO. For fuck sake.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 28 2015 21:30 GMT
#3299
Fucking mvp scum doublebus x2 (jat and me), fucking town deserves to lose this, throw of the year.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 28 2015 21:30 GMT
#3300
ENDGAME

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Cephiro the Wandering Townie has been lynched.

Damdred the Vanilla Townie has been endgamed.
Ritoky the 1-shot Vigilante has been endgamed.

Palmar the Janitor is victorious.


Full roles and actions below:
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Mason QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/Pegh9LCBJMR4
Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/aB6tfdBaVQR
Obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/NEEpHP6Xdk9U
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