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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:07 GMT
#3041
On September 26 2015 04:05 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:02 ritoky wrote:
jat bitched and moaned for about 40 hours of day 1 about how everything everyone said was crap.

Your point?


idk i know i talked shit on you d1 about it, dunno why he cares. it was reasonable to talk shit on you about it during the first bit.

Yes, but at that point I really hadn't done much. Damdred never changed his mind even though I put in a considerable amount of effort before I left on lynch day.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 19:09 GMT
#3042
It wasn't shit talking though, it was a scum read that I took action on on someone not doing jack shit d1.

If you think I'm scum and ceph is town your thought process is, instead of scum damdred giving into rayn and his other scum buddies he went away from both town wagons to start a third town wagon for no reason what so ever.

like I can see the posts ceph made coming from town its not difficult at all to see that tbh
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 25 2015 19:10 GMT
#3043
damdred or geript. 1 more time can you try and explain the town reads you have on eachother to me. cuz i don't understand how they are soooooooo firm at this point. at least 1 of you has to be town so 1 of you at worst is telling the truth.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 19:15 GMT
#3044
Both of us are town.

Geeipt doesn't care if he lives when his death is basically guaranteed at this point
He has no thread prescrbse which he loves to have as scum.
He doesn't buddy up to anyone early to try to get free town tereads
Magical reads on moosey
Stubborn to a fault on who he thinks is scum
takes path of greatest rwsistance
No end game plan

Theeres other things but yeah that's most of it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 19:16 GMT
#3045
And this not wanting to work with anyone to save himself that's a staple of the town game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:18 GMT
#3046
Then who is mafia damdred?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:19 GMT
#3047
You just said you could see town ceph making those posts.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 19:27 GMT
#3048
Idk maybe I'll indulsge geript and vote you
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:28 GMT
#3049
On September 26 2015 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Idk maybe I'll indulsge geript and vote you

lol
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 25 2015 19:28 GMT
#3050
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:29 GMT
#3051
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 19:31 GMT
#3052
Its great being in a game where people can't read you hehe
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:33 GMT
#3053
On September 26 2015 04:31 Damdred wrote:
Its great being in a game where people can't read you hehe

I fail to see what's great about that in the slightest or what the point of this post is.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 25 2015 19:41 GMT
#3054
Aight well here's my counter-post to your town read on him. But before this I will say I think it is 1 of you, geript, and jat. I am really convinced the other 2 are town; I am not locked in on geript at this point.

1) Activity/Style. Weakest of the points especially considering schedule changes to geript's rl. However, geript feels a bit more present for me as town. I just finished playing a game with him where he we town bro'd all game. He has different feelings this game. Outside of that the type of way he is expressing his frustration and anger prior to this phase was odd. His first angry post was just out of the blue and over the top; stuck out like a sore thumb. But also there was the style of it. From my experience angry town geript is more chirpy, repeats himself, and spams a bit with portions in caps for emphasis. That post was more along the lines of calm calm WALL OF ANGER calm calm. This phase a little bit more along town frustration style.

2) Magic reads on LHF. I was making a conscious effort this game, particularly early to focus my reads on the people I felt were LHF in the game. First because I had a gun and was likely to shoot one, but secondly because I felt the number of strong players was so high that easy ML targets were at a premium so I wanted to try and combat that by having good reads on them. His moosy read I can grasp as coming from town. But I remember when warwaffle posted, I literally followed his post with "I don't know how anyone in the game can have a read on this guy" and I believe you said something quite similar. To which geript promptly shows up and says "he is town". Later we find he is town and a PR. I have a hard time grasping how I, who was focusing on LHF see a post and think it is unreadable and he comes so solid on it and correct. He has been very correct on LHF...almost too correct.

3) Mechanically bad play. If there's 1 thing geript is triggered by as town it is mechanically bad play. Last phase he was playing with a mindset of a world of 1, which was just mechanically wrong. I pointed it out to him multiple times and he did probably nothing with it. He was right about marv, but wrong about the world of 1. I don't think he would tolerate his own mindset if he was town.

4) World of 1 -> JATTTTT OMFG JAT. He was literally sold on world of 1 yesterday. When it turns out that isn't the case he goes ham on JAT and pushes using stuff that he has been "pushing" or "pointing out" all game. Yet just the day before he was sold marv was solo mafia. I don't get the tonal shift of 1 alive into ABSOLUTELY THIS GUY. There aren't even filter reading or considering posts in there. There's just turning on a dime.

5) Discrediting rather than arguing. Yes geript isn't big on case making, yes you find this town of him; but if JAT is mafia I want to see a compelling argument not "he has done nothing with the longest filter" "ignore everything he says". That doesn't get my dick hard.

6) Plethora of dumb tells and stupid comments. There's a threshold of dumb tells as town. He went beyond it.

If you could start there telling me why I am wrong or those are NAI.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#3055
Yeah he didn't make a good point because I'm obviously trying to convince several people on my town read and you obviously don't get anything jat
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 19:46 GMT
#3056
On September 26 2015 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.

Why do you think this is a fair point?
Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:54 GMT
#3057
On September 26 2015 04:46 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.

Why do you think this is a fair point?

Because it is true?!
On September 26 2015 04:41 ritoky wrote:
3) Mechanically bad play. If there's 1 thing geript is triggered by as town it is mechanically bad play. Last phase he was playing with a mindset of a world of 1, which was just mechanically wrong. I pointed it out to him multiple times and he did probably nothing with it. He was right about marv, but wrong about the world of 1. I don't think he would tolerate his own mindset if he was town.

err? Geript never ever said marv is mafia.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 25 2015 19:55 GMT
#3058
On September 26 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:46 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.

Why do you think this is a fair point?

Because it is true?!

Which part, specifically is true?
Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2015 19:57 GMT
#3059
On September 26 2015 04:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:46 Palmar wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2015 04:28 Cephiro wrote:
Palmar, if you're around you should do something more productive. You've once again pointed out your opinion today well enough, but it doesn't look like you actually care about what's happening. (You're not really trying to make anything happen even if you've said what you'd like to happen, and I'd expect you to be trying to make it happen instead of just hoping it happens.)

Or if you're not up for taking responsibility, join me in voting Damdred for today's lynch.

^
Very fair point.

Why do you think this is a fair point?

Because it is true?!

Which part, specifically is true?

That you seem content with just chilling and letting things happen today. You made it clear you want geript lynched and didn't do much/talk about much besides that.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 19:57 GMT
#3060
1) I think overall this just is nai. For one he was in two games at once on this hectic schedule and he played them both about equally. And when he was killed in seasons he wouldn't even play the game in angel chat with me because he was so busy. I don't think this is either for or against him here.

2) Usually geript makes mega associative reads based on who he thinks are scum. If he generally has a list of who he thinks are town he will just call everyone else town at that point. The warwafgle read is worrying, but I have a hard time either way thinking that scum geript would totally cut himself off of an easy lurker lynch by doing that. I think its a town move by geript taking a easy target out of a pie type list. Even if it was scary correct I think.

3) Geript is against fake claiming as town, he said to me once he was going to fake claim a red check on Yamato even though it was wrong of him to do so. D1 newb game geript de idea to tunnel kels for bad reason making a world of one rather than a world of three. He was a bit more balanced but it was in the same vein.

4) Either alignment can do this though, I think its a non point but I don't really have an answer to it.

5) Yeah but that's how he is when you play with him he will just say x is scim. Or x lied. I mean its rough especially when geript doesn't necessarily do it every game but he does it sometimes meh. This isn't a great explanation

6) I don't think this is scum indicative, palmar does the same thing some days. Idk
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