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On September 21 2015 21:54 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 17:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia. That's what I thought at first, and why I made that post just before deadline. What's his other option? Shoot you? That makes him look suspicious. Yes, me and slam can argue it out, but what's even better? The yolo play. I give him props for it. It's guardians all over again. Deja fucking vu. It's also more than the vote - it's how he came to the conclusion, how his beginning of day play was, and then the vote sealed it for me. It's also how he went after me fairly quickly in the day. If he was town he would be playing like you, unsure, rereading, etc. I know I'm town, I got a town pm. He knows I have a town pm. You are the investigator. You are the town's hope. I'll be at work in about an hour, and I'll try to check into the thread when I can.
Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little.
It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's me. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post.
I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary.
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On September 22 2015 02:34 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 21:54 scott31337 wrote:On September 21 2015 17:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia. That's what I thought at first, and why I made that post just before deadline. What's his other option? Shoot you? That makes him look suspicious. Yes, me and slam can argue it out, but what's even better? The yolo play. I give him props for it. It's guardians all over again. Deja fucking vu. It's also more than the vote - it's how he came to the conclusion, how his beginning of day play was, and then the vote sealed it for me. It's also how he went after me fairly quickly in the day. If he was town he would be playing like you, unsure, rereading, etc. I know I'm town, I got a town pm. He knows I have a town pm. You are the investigator. You are the town's hope. I'll be at work in about an hour, and I'll try to check into the thread when I can. Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little. It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's me. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post. I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary.
EBWOP:
Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little.
It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's meyou. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post.
I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary.
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I find it disturbing that it's the last day but no one is talking. Does anyone have questions or some such?
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Heading home from work now. Will be on in 45 mins or so. To commence the FINAL COUNTDOWN TO DESTINY.
Just want to point out how dumb you'll both feel if it turns out I'm mafia. I'm not. But the thing I really can't get my head around is how I came to be the established town in this scenario. Couldn't whichever of you was mafia have done the decent thing and scum read me instead? At least then my job would be a little easier.
Except it wouldn't really, because I'd still have to figure out if you were mafia. So yeah, I don't understand how neither of you are re-evaluating on me. I think the thing I have to look for is which of you seems to have the more natural read progression at the end. And, Moosy's freaking awful triple "typo" aside, it looks like him at the moment.
Gotta go back through scott's filter first. And I may wade through MD's again, and perhaps Yamato and rayn's as well.
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Shout out to the obs thread. I'll be with y'all shortly, one way or another. Prepare your witty barbs and your acerbic takedowns as appropriate. Also keep some champagne on ice, just in case.
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Fidei you are town because scott spewed you town with his terrible reaction.
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Also, I already said that I reviewed you but my scott case was stronger. I posted that first to see his reaction and because it was stronger.
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Scott EOD 3. You're scum reading Superbia for like two days straight, but then you lead the lynch onto BF? Explain??
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On September 22 2015 03:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said that I reviewed you but my scott case was stronger. I posted that first to see his reaction and because it was stronger.
That's not what you said earlier though?
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On September 22 2015 02:35 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 02:34 Fidei86 wrote:On September 21 2015 21:54 scott31337 wrote:On September 21 2015 17:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia. That's what I thought at first, and why I made that post just before deadline. What's his other option? Shoot you? That makes him look suspicious. Yes, me and slam can argue it out, but what's even better? The yolo play. I give him props for it. It's guardians all over again. Deja fucking vu. It's also more than the vote - it's how he came to the conclusion, how his beginning of day play was, and then the vote sealed it for me. It's also how he went after me fairly quickly in the day. If he was town he would be playing like you, unsure, rereading, etc. I know I'm town, I got a town pm. He knows I have a town pm. You are the investigator. You are the town's hope. I'll be at work in about an hour, and I'll try to check into the thread when I can. Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little. It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's me. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post. I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary. EBWOP: Scott - you'll forgive me if I'm struggling with this a little. It seems to me that your progression is that at EON you had me as your number one scum. Yes, it was weak, but still. You said you were "most suspicious" of me. Or something like that. Anyway, Slam then flips, and all of a sudden you're town reading me. But only after Moosy comes out and says it's meyou. And the reasons you have seem to be related to my interactions with Moosy BEFORE the EON, and before your post. I recognise this is very frustrating if you are town, but I really need you to walk me through in as much detail as you can exactly the timeline of the last EON. Use short sentences and simple words if you think it necessary.
I'll try my best.
I was still believing that Moosy was not bussing because it seemed so next level at the time - that made me more suspicious of you before the day.
I spent an hour writing up that last rites and waited for 29 after to post it - I was not thinking Slam would be killed.
Day flips - Slam was killed.
Your reaction to it
(WIFOM) but it was like I wasted that whole hour writing it out for nothing, because it was unexpected and the last thing on my mind.
After a few minutes - I thought - which of you two would do this? It's a great pin on Scott - who would get more leverage on their agenda?
Moosy would - I posted my gut feeling in the thread - went to the store for some beer, and came back.
By that time, moosy posted his Fidei mafia posts - and then his I was confused, It's scott for sure.
Now, I don't know if it was because of my gut post - but he went after me fairly quicky - which made me suspicious as all hell. Why would Town!Moosy do this? He'd be like you - Is it Fidei? Is it Scott? is it all WIFOM? Why am I not dead?
No, he went right after me, because for the nightkill - to put it on me, and then ML me for the win.
His downfall is he did it too early without thinking critically. After his waffle and then on to me - he's locked on. I'm about 99% he's mafia here, trying to get the ML now.
When he votes I'm 100% sure - so I vote for him. He doesn't have a townie mindet - he's got a mislynch and win mindset.
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So here's the vote six minutes before deadline -
On September 13 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:Day 3 Alliance Surveillance Report
DO NOT SHARE OR REPRODUCE THIS DOCUMENT! This report is for Alliance eyes only. It details information collected in secret regarding possible Rebel activity in the Outer Sector.
Details: Data regarding the ship tagged Serenity is enclosed.
Crew Compliment: Last reported at 13
Captain: Malcolm Reynolds, known Independent sympathizer
Position: Uncertain
Current suspect list and those implicating them:Superbia (3): scott31337, Breshke, Fidei86 boxerfred (3): MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, Alakaslam Fidei86 (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): boxerfred scott31337 (1): CopCake Not Informing (0):Advised Action: Bounty Hunters dispatched and expected to arrive in , currently targeting Superbia due to suspicions reported by 3 Informants. Situation is subject to change. Updates should be reported.Reminder: A player cannot vote for himself. Anyone without a valid vote may be modkilled for not voting.Reporting Channel: tl.net.nsm014
Superbia was starting to put in some effort (just like he did on Day 5 too, but it's too little too late) and with a vote like this, mafia can manipulate it too easily - and Breshke seemed to be AFK. Remember Slam did that vote swap but it didn't change the result?
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So I swapped over to make it more difficult - GB's already dead so there's only two mafia left.
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But I surely didn't "lead the lynch" into BF. He's already got three votes.
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Okay so I think it's scott at the moment.
EVERYONE FREAK OUT.
Once you stop freaking out, my reasoning is on the Superbia/BF/Slam read progression you had after the Cake lynch. Like, you were hard-core scum reading Superbia, but then you choose to go for BF, when you could have easily hammered Superbia (or, you know, voted for him). Then you start hard scum-reading Superbia for POE reasons, in circumstances where Slam was hard town-reading you. It really came out of nowhere. Then you keep posting that it has to be slam, right up until EOD, when you're all of a sudden totally unsure of him.
Now need to go read GB and Cake's filters. FML.
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Okay fine, you didn't "lead the lynch". But you were actually talking about it a bunch through D3. Or whichever day it was before the Cake lynch.
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So Scott and GB have this massive shit fight D1. Then Moosy and Cake have an even BIGGER shit fight for all D1-D3.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg.
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On September 22 2015 03:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay so I think it's scott at the moment.
EVERYONE FREAK OUT.
Once you stop freaking out, my reasoning is on the Superbia/BF/Slam read progression you had after the Cake lynch. Like, you were hard-core scum reading Superbia, but then you choose to go for BF, when you could have easily hammered Superbia (or, you know, voted for him). Then you start hard scum-reading Superbia for POE reasons, in circumstances where Slam was hard town-reading you. It really came out of nowhere. Then you keep posting that it has to be slam, right up until EOD, when you're all of a sudden totally unsure of him.
Now need to go read GB and Cake's filters. FML.
"Then you keep posting that it has to be slam, right up until EOD, when you're all of a sudden totally unsure of him."
I intentionally did this in the post before - did you read my last rites?
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Yeah. But it makes no sense to me for you to do that. And you were sure of him for AGES, not just the bit where he was scum reading you.
I need to take a break from filters, I'm not taking it any more. Back in 25 mins.
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I need to eat lunch as well. I'll be back.
I'll try my best when I get back - sorry Obs QT - It's Guardians all over again.
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Coming to the conclusion I'm just bad at this game. Have now read Cake and GB's filter and all I got was ... nothing.
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EPT
