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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 20:45 GMT
#3381
OMG rekt by the fucking kissy face.

Scott, pick me up here buddy. What's your top three reasons for scum reading Moosy? Apart from the fact that you're town reading me, I guess.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 20:50 GMT
#3382
Voting in case my house gets hit by a meteor or something.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 20:58 GMT
#3383
#1 - His quick push on me Day 6 - If he was town - he would take a wider view of the situation and the game of what's happening.
#2 - His reluctance for GB and voting CopCake since he knew they were both Mafia but he comes out like roses after the red check (or when if/when we finally lynch them)
#3 - His Blue hunting on N2 and not believing Rayn's fakeclaim after we lynched GB and flipped Mafia - There was no town agenda here.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 21 2015 20:59 GMT
#3384
Day 6 Votecount


scott31337 (2): MoosyDoosy, Fidei86
MoosyDoosy (1): scott31337

Not Voting (0):

Currently scott31337 is set to be fired by the flies.

until deadline


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494187-nsm-xiv-firefly-voting-thread

Please vote in the voting thread if you want your vote to be counted.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 21:12 GMT
#3385
On September 21 2015 09:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 09:38 Fidei86 wrote:
On September 21 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 21 2015 08:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On September 10 2015 00:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 23:21 Fidei86 wrote:
Moosy, are you still of the view that DESPITE the doc claim / counter-claim, you still think it's MORE likely that cake is mafia than GB or rayn? Or is that not how you view it?

I know we went over this yesterday, but the longer this goes on, the weirder it gets.

-.- i actually think NocturneMage has a good point. Despite how weak CopCake's filter is, it is weird if she's bussing GB that early. I am just waiting for GB's flip which is unfortunately most likely Mafia.

???

I was pretty sure GB was going to flip Mafia. But if that happened, then people would do flip WIFOM and say that CopCake was town which is what did end up happening. Luckily for us, NocturneMage was the only one who listened to me and was the cop, and got a red check on her.

Okay, can you please explain to me how GB fake claiming -- a claim you THOUGHT WAS FAKE -- makes him less confirmed mafia than Cake, who ... yeah, was pretty meh ... but. I just don't understand this. I'm not sure I'll ever understand this. If your reasoning was "lynching into an unCCed cop is dumb, and I think rayn is fake claiming" then that would make sense. But you didn't say that. You said that rayn was fake claiming, you thought GB's claim was fake, but after ALL THAT you still wanted to kill Cake more, someone nobody else was talking about at that stage?

Look at the answer I already gave you and my expectation of your question.

At that point in the game, I was pretty hard tunneled on CopCake. Like, I even made the deal post about her and n00bKing because I was 100% sure she was Mafia. Then GB did his fake claim shenanigans and with most of my town circle giving good points on him, I accepted that he was Mafia. But I was only ~90% sure because I actually hadn't looked into him in depth because I was working on my CopCake case.

It seemed a hell of a lot better for me to push someone that no one was reconsidering into the light rather than just sheep rayn on GB mindlessly.

If it's actually MD, I feel that rayn is literally going to fly to the UK and kick me in the nuts
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 21:16 GMT
#3386
On September 22 2015 05:58 scott31337 wrote:
#1 - His quick push on me Day 6 - If he was town - he would take a wider view of the situation and the game of what's happening.
#2 - His reluctance for GB and voting CopCake since he knew they were both Mafia but he comes out like roses after the red check (or when if/when we finally lynch them)
#3 - His Blue hunting on N2 and not believing Rayn's fakeclaim after we lynched GB and flipped Mafia - There was no town agenda here.

#1 IDK not sure I agree with this. And he made the same point on you as well. As town, it might actually be better to push someone early and see how they respond. He pushed me and I was like "omg that's dumb", and he town read me. So POE it's you.

Although that's not his explanation for why he misspoke like three times.

#2 IDK, that whole thing was just so weird I sort of just want to lynch him for it. But it seems like such a weird play for mafia to make, that his bullshit excuse sort of has to be true

#3 He was bluehunting N2? Wasn't that Superbia?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:19 GMT
#3387
On September 22 2015 06:12 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 09:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 21 2015 09:38 Fidei86 wrote:
On September 21 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 21 2015 08:49 Fidei86 wrote:
On September 10 2015 00:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 23:21 Fidei86 wrote:
Moosy, are you still of the view that DESPITE the doc claim / counter-claim, you still think it's MORE likely that cake is mafia than GB or rayn? Or is that not how you view it?

I know we went over this yesterday, but the longer this goes on, the weirder it gets.

-.- i actually think NocturneMage has a good point. Despite how weak CopCake's filter is, it is weird if she's bussing GB that early. I am just waiting for GB's flip which is unfortunately most likely Mafia.

???

I was pretty sure GB was going to flip Mafia. But if that happened, then people would do flip WIFOM and say that CopCake was town which is what did end up happening. Luckily for us, NocturneMage was the only one who listened to me and was the cop, and got a red check on her.

Okay, can you please explain to me how GB fake claiming -- a claim you THOUGHT WAS FAKE -- makes him less confirmed mafia than Cake, who ... yeah, was pretty meh ... but. I just don't understand this. I'm not sure I'll ever understand this. If your reasoning was "lynching into an unCCed cop is dumb, and I think rayn is fake claiming" then that would make sense. But you didn't say that. You said that rayn was fake claiming, you thought GB's claim was fake, but after ALL THAT you still wanted to kill Cake more, someone nobody else was talking about at that stage?

Look at the answer I already gave you and my expectation of your question.

At that point in the game, I was pretty hard tunneled on CopCake. Like, I even made the deal post about her and n00bKing because I was 100% sure she was Mafia. Then GB did his fake claim shenanigans and with most of my town circle giving good points on him, I accepted that he was Mafia. But I was only ~90% sure because I actually hadn't looked into him in depth because I was working on my CopCake case.

It seemed a hell of a lot better for me to push someone that no one was reconsidering into the light rather than just sheep rayn on GB mindlessly.

If it's actually MD, I feel that rayn is literally going to fly to the UK and kick me in the nuts


You better go buy a cup.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:21 GMT
#3388
On September 10 2015 10:14 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 10:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
cool. superbia/boxer/breshke/moosy?

Like, what even is this post? You've been scum reading Cake all game, and I feel like you've been softing me for a while. Then you come out after Rayn says he thinks we're both town (idk how doctor would even confirm someone when the night kill went through n1), and basically say "oh cool, I've been wrong all game, but happy to take your word for it!"

And then you include yourself in the possible scum list?!?

...

Ugh. If you're town, you're playing such a weird game, I don't even know. I thought you were too dumb to be Mafia, but you're testing that read now.

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:24 GMT
#3389
On September 10 2015 11:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 11:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
what rayn says. if you claim here then you let mafia know the power roles. on the other hand if you stay silent you buy yourself 2 more nights including this one minimum.

rayn are you not going to post until end of night or can you share some thoughts now?

I thought i was not a doctor?

no but GB basically let it slip that we do have a doctor.

the rest is self explanatory but since gb let it slip we have a doc, that means we also have a cop. and i was saying and agreeing with you that the cop shouldn't claim in order to have 2 more nights.


I see this as a partial it

On September 10 2015 11:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the short reasoning is Moosy for his shit read on noobking and not realizing GB has to be mafia FOR the counterclaim AND not dying. Both of those are no-brainer things and Moosy is intelligent enough to understand that.

Superbia is mafai for the sole fact that he made a post where he says "my next post is going to solve the game most likely". His next post has FOUR scumreads AND three null-reads.

A. my read on n00bKing was perfectly fine but you're refusing to accept it.

Yeah it would be fine if you did not go consistently against it.

? i've already explained my thought process behind the "inconsistencies" you've pointed out but you just don't accept it. like sure, i've accepted that you're tunneled so just make a case on end of night and hopefully you're at least right on superbia. either way, it's pretty dumb of mafia to kill you here because your claim about being a doctor was obviously false.


Wait so if Ryan's claim about being the doctor was false why were you fine with people lynching GB????

rayn was confident enough in his read on GB to do his doc claim shenanigans.

I believe GB convinced you of this in your scum QT.
I seriously do and you are making it worse every moment.

ok. i already provided reasoning early on as to why your claim would have been false which apparently also falls into your whole timeline of GB convincing me about you. like sure if you want to think that lol. it’s completely in your character to do a fake claim in order to force a lynch that you’re positive in whether you think that of yourself or not.
-shrugs-
if this was your case i’m kind of disappointed. all it provides is: “lynch these people and then do this based on the results”

i’d also like your reasoning as to why you think copcake is the cop?

First of all you ahev absolutely no idea what would "fit my character" or what does not.

Second, if you were town and you believed you are right here (that i am fakeclaiming), you would be happy about it and shut up, because that would result in mafia shooting me (as NOONE except you in this game believes this is the case) and the real doctor doccing me. So yeah, what you are saying here doesn't make a single bit of sense from town perspective.

Third, i have never implied i think Cake is the cop. I don't bluehunt when i am town. When a blue flips or outs i see if it makes sense or not.

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:24 GMT
#3390
Just read from Night 2 to Day 3 - no filters or nothing

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?page=89
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:29 GMT
#3391
Only like till Moosy goes to sleep.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:39 GMT
#3392
On September 10 2015 10:31 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:
If you guys can't see that Rayn's claim is fake, you're mafia.

His claim is completely out of place and it's easily retractable by the excuse that he did it out of rage. Then he easily throw his vote on me and let people pile on.

It's better to have the doctor lynxhed than killed, right? So just roleblock him and cast suspicions on him.

Fidei fits as scum partner of Rayn. His flip on me is too opportunistic.

##vote: Fidei86


So GB still interacts with me through the whole thread, even though he thinks I am mafia. Gb didn't interact for shit with fidei except here (if you call it that) but he tHinks he is mafia also. Hmmm

More filter reading.


Remember when I made this post?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 21:41 GMT
#3393
On September 10 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 11:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 10:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the short reasoning is Moosy for his shit read on noobking and not realizing GB has to be mafia FOR the counterclaim AND not dying. Both of those are no-brainer things and Moosy is intelligent enough to understand that.

Superbia is mafai for the sole fact that he made a post where he says "my next post is going to solve the game most likely". His next post has FOUR scumreads AND three null-reads.

A. my read on n00bKing was perfectly fine but you're refusing to accept it.

Yeah it would be fine if you did not go consistently against it.

? i've already explained my thought process behind the "inconsistencies" you've pointed out but you just don't accept it. like sure, i've accepted that you're tunneled so just make a case on end of night and hopefully you're at least right on superbia. either way, it's pretty dumb of mafia to kill you here because your claim about being a doctor was obviously false.


Wait so if Ryan's claim about being the doctor was false why were you fine with people lynching GB????

rayn was confident enough in his read on GB to do his doc claim shenanigans.

I believe GB convinced you of this in your scum QT.
I seriously do and you are making it worse every moment.

ok. i already provided reasoning early on as to why your claim would have been false which apparently also falls into your whole timeline of GB convincing me about you. like sure if you want to think that lol. it’s completely in your character to do a fake claim in order to force a lynch that you’re positive in whether you think that of yourself or not.
-shrugs-
if this was your case i’m kind of disappointed. all it provides is: “lynch these people and then do this based on the results”

i’d also like your reasoning as to why you think copcake is the cop?


Like this crap too...
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 21:52 GMT
#3394
Just read N2.

Agree, rayn is definitely going to kick me in the nuts if it's you.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 21:54 GMT
#3395
On September 22 2015 06:39 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 10:31 scott31337 wrote:
On September 08 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:
If you guys can't see that Rayn's claim is fake, you're mafia.

His claim is completely out of place and it's easily retractable by the excuse that he did it out of rage. Then he easily throw his vote on me and let people pile on.

It's better to have the doctor lynxhed than killed, right? So just roleblock him and cast suspicions on him.

Fidei fits as scum partner of Rayn. His flip on me is too opportunistic.

##vote: Fidei86


So GB still interacts with me through the whole thread, even though he thinks I am mafia. Gb didn't interact for shit with fidei except here (if you call it that) but he tHinks he is mafia also. Hmmm

More filter reading.


Remember when I made this post?

Yea. What of it?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 22:02 GMT
#3396
I take back all the mean stuff I said about people at lylo.

EVEN ONEGU. I'M SORRY ONEGU. THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 22:03 GMT
#3397
I guess it's nothing really.

Any other questions for me?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 22:04 GMT
#3398
Why did you and Moosy both have to run such mad bus strats? It's making this very hard.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 22:06 GMT
#3399
I'm sort of set on my decision. I'm really sorry if you're actually town. I just think your read progression in the mid game was too weird, and the bus on GB seems less real than the Moosy / Cake fight.

Did GB ever say anything about Moosy at all?
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
September 21 2015 22:12 GMT
#3400


I'm not sure what you mean.
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