Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 167

On September 10 2015 00:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:

-.- i actually think NocturneMage has a good point. Despite how weak CopCake's filter is, it is weird if she's bussing GB that early. I am just waiting for GB's flip which is unfortunately most likely Mafia.

On September 21 2015 08:40 Fidei86 wrote:

@MD so you thought that the rayn claim was fake, but that rayn was town, and you thought GB's claim was bad, but you also thought he was town?

On September 21 2015 08:49 Fidei86 wrote:

???

On September 20 2015 23:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Okay, let me explain this scott. You say I’m going after the low hanging fruit here which would be you in your head. This is just absolutely false. As Slam says, the order in which it’s easy to make a case is: me, Fidei, scott. You are literally the hardest person to make a case on.

Also, it’s false to say I’m not afraid to pressure Fidei. I’ve already done so during Night in fact when Fidei was admittedly saying terrible things.

I actually was thinking it was Fidei and was looking through filters while stirring up conversation UNTIL he started trying to throw dirt at me. Then he was town in my eyes which was only proven more by Slam’s death.

I also don’t believe your voting right now. I was literally hard town in your eyes then all of a sudden you say I’m Mafia from this move? That change just does not happen so quickly. At most I would have to be town with a wrong read on you. All I see is you having a knee-jerk reaction and moving to kill me as quickly as possible.

Also, do you really think I would kill Slam here if I was Mafia? I could literally kill Fidei then sheep Slam to the ends of the word and lynch you scott.

No. You’re Mafia. I’m 100% sure of this.

On September 21 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I was pretty sure GB was going to flip Mafia. But if that happened, then people would do flip WIFOM and say that CopCake was town which is what did end up happening. Luckily for us, NocturneMage was the only one who listened to me and was the cop, and got a red check on her.

On September 21 2015 09:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Fidei, any more questions?

Would also like your thoughts on my interaction with scott so far.

On September 20 2015 03:46 scott31337 wrote:


I pretty much went with town sentiment that CopCake was town d1/d2ish and then started being useless so she went downhill - and then the red check confirmation.

I was suspicious of you basically the whole game - your d3 showed pretty townie (you stepped it up quite a bit) and with your tunnel on CopCake basically the whole game - after the check you basically have to be town or you did some next level award nomination mafia play. You are my #1 town read.

Not much has really changed - I was pretty confident of Superbia being the last mafia - He finally steps it up when he's the lynch which is disappointing. (Work has sucked all week, usually it's been slow, but I've had to put out fires all week basically and haven't had time for the game, I apologize for that)

Fidei seems like he's trying to solve the game.

It pretty much has to be Alakaslam.

On September 21 2015 09:38 Fidei86 wrote:

Okay, can you please explain to me how GB fake claiming -- a claim you THOUGHT WAS FAKE -- makes him less confirmed mafia than Cake, who ... yeah, was pretty meh ... but. I just don't understand this. I'm not sure I'll ever understand this. If your reasoning was "lynching into an unCCed cop is dumb, and I think rayn is fake claiming" then that would make sense. But you didn't say that. You said that rayn was fake claiming, you thought GB's claim was fake, but after ALL THAT you still wanted to kill Cake more, someone nobody else was talking about at that stage?

On September 21 2015 09:35 Fidei86 wrote:

Moosy.

The thing I don't understand about this is that during our fight yesterday, you were basically saying you thought I was mafia. But then, with very little else happening, you were sure that I was town. You never said any of that before the night flip.

Please talk me through.

I've read your filter (all 32 pages ...), and now I'm going to be tired for work. But I will come home early tomorrow from work.

On September 20 2015 02:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Actually, I'm VERY interested in what happens in the next 5 hours. Then I know who Mafia is.

On September 21 2015 09:41 Fidei86 wrote:

I wasn't expecting you both to be at each other's throats so quickly. I've been pressed all day, and I haven't digested fully yet. I need to re-read and reconsider.

But yeah, honestly you saying in three posts that you were sure it was me, and then flipping once scott said he thought it was you, was pretty weird. Like, I get you can get confused between Slam and Superbia -- they were both AFK and their names both start with S. But me and Scott? This far into the game? I need to re-read the thread flow.

It's 1:30am and I have to work tomorrow.

On September 21 2015 09:51 Fidei86 wrote:

How did I go ahead of MD in your scum read list Scott?

On September 20 2015 02:35 Fidei86 wrote:

Please explain to me my Mafia motivation for pushin you. If I'm Mafia, I kill you and then I vote whoever of slam and Scott I like. And I win because slam is basically afk. You must know I'm town.

On September 21 2015 17:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia.

On September 21 2015 17:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Scott that makes no sense though. In my world, the best Mafia play at LyLo is to have the two townies fight it out and then come down on one side. And that's where you seem to have been, until Moosy came onto you. But if you're town then don't you have to consider a world where it's me? I mean, it could be me? To you? It's not. But the fact that MD is voting for you doesn't make him Mafia.

On September 21 2015 21:54 scott31337 wrote:


That's what I thought at first, and why I made that post just before deadline. What's his other option? Shoot you? That makes him look suspicious. Yes, me and slam can argue it out, but what's even better? The yolo play. I give him props for it. It's guardians all over again. Deja fucking vu. It's also more than the vote - it's how he came to the conclusion, how his beginning of day play was, and then the vote sealed it for me. It's also how he went after me fairly quickly in the day. If he was town he would be playing like you, unsure, rereading, etc. I know I'm town, I got a town pm. He knows I have a town pm. You are the investigator. You are the town's hope.

I'll be at work in about an hour, and I'll try to check into the thread when I can.

On September 20 2015 11:28 scott31337 wrote:


I was wrong here, it's all true.



Where the fuck did his Moosy scumread go? He had no problem voting for me though.





Mafia don't like having to lie, because it's easier to keep the story straight.



It was a fat bus the whole fucking game - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480965-mafia-mini-mafia2-another-miniature-game-of-mafia - Damdred would be proud.