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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:01 GMT
#3081
I think I'm willing to lose if moosy is scum at this point. I think copcake spewed him town.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#3082
On September 07 2015 06:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 06:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 07 2015 06:05 Superbia wrote:
On September 07 2015 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 07 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote:
I'm actually pretty confused this d1. I usually have a direction I want to push the game, but rayn has kind of taken over the role I usually take in a game. Which leaves me stranded. I'm kind of okay with noobking getting lynched at this point and seeing where he flips takes us. Simply because I don't have any strong mafia reads. My gut would say moosy and go from there, but it may very well be wrong.

:/

Please participate. No excuses.


How am I not participating? Why did your opinion change? You were fine calling me town a few hours ago.

You were making good points, now you are like "meh I am cool with a noobking lynch and see where that takes us"

NO! Who do you think is scum? You don't seem to be confident it is noobking. That post was just bad, I would scum read you for it outside your past flow.

Weigh in on stuff please


I don't fucking know at this point man. Gut says it's one between moosy or copcake. One between scott/GB. And maybe someone like you. But it could also easily be someone like noobking in there.

But here's the problem, noobking doesn't look like his mafia meta on this site, but the fact that he has played on other sites (and judging from what he's said, played a lot) makes me believe he can probably play mafia in multiple ways. So I don't know about noobking's alignment. He doesn't really seem to want to contribute at all, which doesn't help me at all.

Like the problem is that I'm stucking between worlds right now. And this is mostly caused by the fact that both rayn and yamato believe in a world which I don't really believe in right now. Like they both think copcake is town, and they both think scott is town. I think they're both town and decent/good players. This leaves me confused.


How fucking sick is this post btw. Rofl.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#3083
I kind of want to lynch slam just to see if I was right haha.
Minimal effort.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:11 GMT
#3084
Thoughts on scott Superbia.

Why still Slam too.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:13 GMT
#3085
I'm evaluating sson. Copcake very spastic reads EoD3 (? end of her filter). Calls scott mafia for small thing but pretty much forgets it and goes on fidei/moosy.
Minimal effort.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:14 GMT
#3086
On September 18 2015 00:27 Fidei86 wrote:
@MD for my ego I'd like to hear why you got townie vibes from my posts about lylo

I was expecting you to explain why you assumed we were going to lylo, but instead you talked about how little Mafia were to gain by saying something like that.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:14 GMT
#3087
Moosy you're going to tell me in short sentences why you think I'm mafia. Like exactly what lines of play/interactions. I will break it apart. I think you're town btw.
Minimal effort.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:14 GMT
#3088
On September 18 2015 22:13 Superbia wrote:
I'm evaluating sson. Copcake very spastic reads EoD3 (? end of her filter). Calls scott mafia for small thing but pretty much forgets it and goes on fidei/moosy.

Pretty sure Fidei is town tho.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:17 GMT
#3089
On September 18 2015 22:14 Superbia wrote:
Moosy you're going to tell me in short sentences why you think I'm mafia. Like exactly what lines of play/interactions. I will break it apart. I think you're town btw.

ok one moment.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:18 GMT
#3090
As for slam, copcake/slam interaction at EoD3 might've been awkward (going to look into it right now) and mafia-mafia interaction. People once told me that happy slam = town slam. But he has been somewhat unhappy at times (iirc). Also him trying to take leadership during d3 felt awkward.

Also called him out EoD1 when I had decent reads so I probably had a reason haha. But that's more curiosity.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:19 GMT
#3091
On September 18 2015 22:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 22:13 Superbia wrote:
I'm evaluating sson. Copcake very spastic reads EoD3 (? end of her filter). Calls scott mafia for small thing but pretty much forgets it and goes on fidei/moosy.

Pretty sure Fidei is town tho.


Maybe. Maybe I was too focused on him being wrong. I'm currently trying to evaluate everyone from the ground up.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:29 GMT
#3092
Brb.
Minimal effort.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:32 GMT
#3093
1. No interest in sharing reads early on in the game. When you do, you just ask more questions. Questions are easy way to feign Mafia.
2. EoD actions with boxerfred. If you really cared about him being cop, you would have said so earlier, ESPECIALLY if he was afk. I disliked how you pushed yourself being automatically town at that point as well.
3. CopCake townreads you. This makes sense since Roleblocker/Godfather are important roles and GB was just killed as the Goon.
4. Your repeated waffling on CopCake then you say you hard townread her from voice Mafia. I don’t see how you can take two different Mafia variations and then try to apply reads from one to the other.
5. You said you townread CopCake all game later on when you were clearly waffling earlier on.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:34 GMT
#3094
These are just some of them. Like your read progression and your reasons for them are very strange overall. Also, NM found in your games a willingness to go all the way to the end as Mafia so I don't see it as uncommon that you're waiting for your lynch here as a chance to somehow avoid it.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:36 GMT
#3095
On September 18 2015 22:01 Superbia wrote:
I think I'm willing to lose if moosy is scum at this point. I think copcake spewed him town.

This is bad mindset man. Especially when you said you'd evaluate everyone.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:39 GMT
#3096
On September 18 2015 22:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
1. No interest in sharing reads early on in the game. When you do, you just ask more questions. Questions are easy way to feign Mafia.
2. EoD actions with boxerfred. If you really cared about him being cop, you would have said so earlier, ESPECIALLY if he was afk. I disliked how you pushed yourself being automatically town at that point as well.
3. CopCake townreads you. This makes sense since Roleblocker/Godfather are important roles and GB was just killed as the Goon.
4. Your repeated waffling on CopCake then you say you hard townread her from voice Mafia. I don’t see how you can take two different Mafia variations and then try to apply reads from one to the other.
5. You said you townread CopCake all game later on when you were clearly waffling earlier on.

Edit: 1. No interest in sharing reads early on in the game. When you do, you just ask more questions. Questions are easy way to feign interest as Mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 18 2015 13:47 GMT
#3097
On September 18 2015 21:32 Superbia wrote:
Like explain to me how that benefits a scum from their perspective.

It doesn't benefit scum but it's a common reaction. I don't see it far from this world for you to be demotivated after scummate CopCake basically gives up and doesn't even fight off the lynch
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:48 GMT
#3098
Okok real quick then back to brb:

1. I was confused early on due to conflicting worlds with yamato/rayn. Both of whom I townread and respected. They townshielded copcake and mafia-read GB. My worlds were opposite (though I was unsure on GB, but I don't really know how to read him. But I despise sheeping since it generally leads me nowhere). The questions never really went anywhere because I never got a hard mafia tell on people. The post that I quoted above shows where I was at EoD1. Definitely in the correct direction, but yet unable to distinguish the mafia out of the pairings.

2. Here's the problem right. I was really just hoping Boxerfred wouldn't be the other lynch because I thought he was the cop. I really did not want to out him because I thought he was the cop. In my opinion, you can clearly see my struggle at that end of day. Again I do not want to out the cop. I even ask boxerfred if he's here when I'm already scared the wagon will eventually go on him. Essentially why I out it so late is because that's the exact time when the wagon on him has more votes than the wagon on me and I do not want to out the cop for no reason.

3. I can't help this. I think she townread me to pocket me. But whatever.

4. Ok. So early on d1 I am somewhat scumleaning Copcake but yamato/rayn are hard defending her so I have no fucking idea what to do. I re-evaluated her alignment somewhere during n1 iirc. Which is around the time when I started playing voice mafia. I play voice mafia with copcake numerous times and I believe she was scum twice (maybe once). I correctly identify some scum/towntells (has partially something to do with pro-activity. I usually gut/soul-read people, with a bit of logic behind it. I don't take posts at face-value, but instead I analyze rational behind the posts, so it's harder to explain reads.). I believe she had a town-tell here in this game (from her big post) and the fact that rayn/yamato were townshielding her so hard (I called her out at EoD1 about a bad scum-read on I believe moosy) so I town-read her. Obviously should've stuck to my early gut/guns and have now refined my scum-read on here I believe (not that that matters now).

5. Mistake. Probably forgot d1 read.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:49 GMT
#3099
On September 18 2015 22:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 22:01 Superbia wrote:
I think I'm willing to lose if moosy is scum at this point. I think copcake spewed him town.

This is bad mindset man. Especially when you said you'd evaluate everyone.


I evaluated you + copcake. I'm saying I'm fine ride or dying with you. It doesn't mean I didn't evaluate you or whatever. I just believe from numerous occasions (there's a decent generic town-tell that's never been wrong and you had it too, not going to say what it is) that you are town.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2015 13:49 GMT
#3100
Ok brb.
Minimal effort.
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