EPTBenefit is I can come in here. I don't know why you want my reads when I have been this wrong but gut tells me Superbia or Scott are the last ones. Moose is town. Nocturne? Duh
So by PoE it is one of them.
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
Benefit is I can come in here. I don't know why you want my reads when I have been this wrong but gut tells me Superbia or Scott are the last ones. Moose is town. Nocturne? Duh So by PoE it is one of them. | ||
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Alakaslam
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On September 10 2015 10:31 Alakaslam wrote: Moosy you see not with the eyes of CHUPAZI Tell me more about this | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Slam/cake] + On September 05 2015 14:47 Alakaslam wrote: GB only voting lurkers lol Srs man, no more scummy than that? No wonder I was under pressure. Still am for that matter, because I am deathbattling which always looks stupid if you are thuu On September 06 2015 07:20 Alakaslam wrote: It matters a little if people think they can psychoanalyst. + Show Spoiler + none of us have that kind of prowess- or we should be curing psychopaths and turning jails around, not playing mafia But I digress. Catching up again On September 05 2015 14:00 Alakaslam wrote: I will say noobking has said some stuff that made me say ighh, I can't remember where Where did CopCake go? It's not that late Unless she is Northeast, then I would say that's not really north but who am I to blow against the wind... I just do not see the Slam/cake or superbia connection + Show Spoiler [GB] + On September 06 2015 18:53 Fidei86 wrote: GB I have thought about this overnight and I don't know if it makes sense for scum n00b to post in the way that he has. Like, the points he makes are *okay* and a lot of them against Rayn I actually made myself. People seem to be scumming him more for his tone, and I agree he has been very obnoxious. But isn't that more likely to come from town than Mafia? Why does Mafia come in and generally make as many enemies as possible? I'm also acutely aware that it's a newbie town error just to lynch the most outspoken player d1. As to GB, I read his filter and nothing really jumped out at me. I agree with Rayn that his thread entry was highly counter-productive, and I do not agree with his outlook on blue roles in general. But anyone who was in the "why are scum winning" thread won't need me to rehash the whole GB fake cop check thing. TL:DR is that town GB makes fake blue claims which do reveal information but which also get him lynched. The whole thing is NAI for now. I've had a few beers and doing a find on many others filters on who interacts with each other (And NM has done it well) + Show Spoiler [Fidei scum reads superbia] + On September 11 2015 07:29 Fidei86 wrote: Okay. I think this game is actually really easy. I think the GB flip gave us a lot of information. TOWN Slam. He's on GB early, he never believes him, he doesn't want to move off him. Rayn. RIP buddy. Scott. I don't see any reason for a scum GB to cast suspicion on scott in a situation where neither of them looked like they were going to be the lynch at all. Scott also posted that he thought the early GB wagon was pure - no reason to confirm that many town as mafia. Fidei. Town Moses. I shall take us to the promised land! MEH MoosyDoosy. I really don't think it's possible to be this dumb and be mafia. Everything he has posted has been so laughably stupid that I think it probably comes from a place of genuine confusion. Cake. Nocturne Mage pointed out that she was early on the GB wagon. IDK about that - GB was one of her top three scum reads. But I think that town Cake likely just borrowed her reads from rayn. She also said some pretty rude things about GB in her list post, which was WAY before the GB wagon started. Boxerfred. He has been so inactive that it's difficult to get a good read on him. Also, he posted he had "no idea" on GB (#1163), which is usually a mafia-esque way to read your mafia buddy. He also made this really weird post at (#1169) where he asked me to give my reads on n00b and Cake, even after I feel like I'd said quite a few times that I didn't like the lynch on either of them. He is super meh. I have no particular reason to scum read him or town read him. NocturneMage. NocturneMage's writing style really grates me. It comes across as quite polished and clipped, but not fluid. His reads are also quite strange. At one point he town-read Bresh, but later said that it would be good for the cop to check him? I didn't like a lot of his posts, but he's clearly putting effort in. Also, he had an early post where he town-read Superbia and Bresh, so I don't see him being on a team with them. SCUM The main reason why I'm "meh" reading all of the above is because I'm pretty sure that the mafia pairing is Bresh and Superbia. Superbia. His early reads on GB are poor. He says "Do you really think GB is mafia here?" (#216) and then he later says "GB is idk". As I said above, this is a classic way for mafia to read mafia. He later says "Don't know about slam/gb. Both are very much on the sidelines." Pretty much all of his early filter are questions, and they don't seem massively pertinent ones either. They're mostly just prodding. On d2, right at the start, he asks for the CC without *any* reasoning whatosever. Then, again, he says at the beginning of N2 that the cop should post their checks EON 2, IN A SITUATION WHERE RAYN IS 99% THE DOCTOR AND WILL GET SHOT. He has a late cake town read that comes out of nowhere. Breshke. This one is easy, IMO. He has an early town read on GB which he doesn't explain, and which he takes back once GB comes under suspicion. He early votes on Slam with little/no justification. However, crucially, he basically rescinds his Slam read, but then LEAVES HIS VOTE ON SLAM TO EOD. He says he slept in. But his Slam vote went in super early. That makes no sense, particularly when he seems to indicate he has a scum read on n00b early on, and n00b is plainly a lynch candidate. Once GB fake claims, mafia know he's dead, so I don't think you get very much/any cred for that. I would say I'm much more certain on Bresh than I am on Superbia, but I still think this is by far the most likely scum team. Reasonable scumread here, makes sense - espicall from what we know now. And his quote on both here - On September 11 2015 07:29 Fidei86 wrote: Okay. I think this game is actually really easy. I think the GB flip gave us a lot of information. TOWN Slam. He's on GB early, he never believes him, he doesn't want to move off him. Rayn. RIP buddy. Scott. I don't see any reason for a scum GB to cast suspicion on scott in a situation where neither of them looked like they were going to be the lynch at all. Scott also posted that he thought the early GB wagon was pure - no reason to confirm that many town as mafia. Fidei. Town Moses. I shall take us to the promised land! MEH MoosyDoosy. I really don't think it's possible to be this dumb and be mafia. Everything he has posted has been so laughably stupid that I think it probably comes from a place of genuine confusion. Cake. Nocturne Mage pointed out that she was early on the GB wagon. IDK about that - GB was one of her top three scum reads. But I think that town Cake likely just borrowed her reads from rayn. She also said some pretty rude things about GB in her list post, which was WAY before the GB wagon started. Boxerfred. He has been so inactive that it's difficult to get a good read on him. Also, he posted he had "no idea" on GB (#1163), which is usually a mafia-esque way to read your mafia buddy. He also made this really weird post at (#1169) where he asked me to give my reads on n00b and Cake, even after I feel like I'd said quite a few times that I didn't like the lynch on either of them. He is super meh. I have no particular reason to scum read him or town read him. NocturneMage. NocturneMage's writing style really grates me. It comes across as quite polished and clipped, but not fluid. His reads are also quite strange. At one point he town-read Bresh, but later said that it would be good for the cop to check him? I didn't like a lot of his posts, but he's clearly putting effort in. Also, he had an early post where he town-read Superbia and Bresh, so I don't see him being on a team with them. SCUM The main reason why I'm "meh" reading all of the above is because I'm pretty sure that the mafia pairing is Bresh and Superbia. Superbia. His early reads on GB are poor. He says "Do you really think GB is mafia here?" (#216) and then he later says "GB is idk". As I said above, this is a classic way for mafia to read mafia. He later says "Don't know about slam/gb. Both are very much on the sidelines." Pretty much all of his early filter are questions, and they don't seem massively pertinent ones either. They're mostly just prodding. On d2, right at the start, he asks for the CC without *any* reasoning whatosever. Then, again, he says at the beginning of N2 that the cop should post their checks EON 2, IN A SITUATION WHERE RAYN IS 99% THE DOCTOR AND WILL GET SHOT. He has a late cake town read that comes out of nowhere. Breshke. This one is easy, IMO. He has an early town read on GB which he doesn't explain, and which he takes back once GB comes under suspicion. He early votes on Slam with little/no justification. However, crucially, he basically rescinds his Slam read, but then LEAVES HIS VOTE ON SLAM TO EOD. He says he slept in. But his Slam vote went in super early. That makes no sense, particularly when he seems to indicate he has a scum read on n00b early on, and n00b is plainly a lynch candidate. Once GB fake claims, mafia know he's dead, so I don't think you get very much/any cred for that. I would say I'm much more certain on Bresh than I am on Superbia, but I still think this is by far the most likely scum team. Good players etc Another call from Fidei On September 12 2015 01:20 Fidei86 wrote: I posted them just before the N2 flip. Tl;Dr it's Bresh and Superbia. On September 12 2015 01:48 Fidei86 wrote: As far as I can see, Superbia has reached the conclusion that he isn't mafia with Bresh or MD, and Bresh has realised he has made a giant mistake. If that is honestly the grand sum of what that fight achieved, then yes, it was a waste of thread space. On September 12 2015 01:48 Fidei86 wrote: As far as I can see, Superbia has reached the conclusion that he isn't mafia with Bresh or MD, and Bresh has realised he has made a giant mistake. If that is honestly the grand sum of what that fight achieved, then yes, it was a waste of thread space. Breshke is the doctor. I thought Fidei was the cop. Fidei's thoughts are townie thru all of this. Fidei didn't know who either were (as did I) until now. Superbia is the last mafia. I'll filter dive some more and do more Ctrl-F, but once you go thru Fidei's filter - it all connects. Had a lot of beers, but just click the filter - click the all button - and do finds (we got two mafia already) Yeah bud Fidei you're town, I thought you were the cop (and I'm glad, mafia didn't know it was NM either so) - looking it all over it's all good. Remember peeps - Once Copcake dies the roleblocker - the rest of us do not have an agenda for anyone else  | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
Why do you read Superbia town here? On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote: Oh, hi there. I don't think you are understanding CopCake in light of something very important. @CopCake: please read this first before the spoiler. Everyone else can skip straight to the spoiler. Adentro (?), yo - ah, insult?- su Ingles. Lo siento. Por favor, recordar yo es estudiante de Español que no sa- be o ve- bien. Y escuchar malo XD Entonces, primera la enojarsas possible diga me mejor accento en voice mafia, porque mi accento es MUY gringo... + Show Spoiler + English second language sir. I think some meaning is being lost in missing words here and there. English is a really wordy language, oftentimes I find I am misunderstood in written communications because I am busy being my odd self plus a slight latinization of my points. I don't read CopCake as scum at all thus far. She strikes me as frustrated but also kind of relying on Rayn as he is a good communicator who is also ESL. so, when Rayn largely disagrees with you and is being his usual bull-headed self, she strikes you as unreasonable to the point of suspicion. I didn't know Copcake was ESL until later in the thread. On September 07 2015 06:49 Alakaslam wrote: Noobking: not sure, townlean Glowinfbear: mafia CopCake: town So we all know this to be incorrect - but from a mafia standpoint - what makes the most sense? Slam gets quiet for a bit about Copcake until Mafia knows the setup though. Slam is an experienced player that could WIFOM this - ehhh? I thought Moosy was mafia and there is no way from it by his tunnel on Copcake. We know better now. "You were right!" Slam's interactions with Copcake feel more natural from what I've read. Superbia gets lynched tomorrow. | ||
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Fidei86
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Fidei86
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On September 15 2015 13:53 Alakaslam wrote: I can't sleep even though I have to. Benefit is I can come in here. I don't know why you want my reads when I have been this wrong but gut tells me Superbia or Scott are the last ones. Moose is town. Nocturne? Duh So by PoE it is one of them. What about me? | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Day 4 Votecount CopCake (6): scott31337, NocturneMage, MoosyDoosy, Superbia, Alakaslam, Fidei86 NocturneMage (1): CopCake Not Voting (0): If CopCake doesn't watch it, they are liable to handelin' the wrong end of a pistol in with 6 votes. Please do not forget to vote. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494187-nsm-xiv-firefly-voting-thread Please vote in the voting thread if you want your vote to be counted. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On September 15 2015 16:30 Fidei86 wrote: Where is Superbia anyway? Has he even posted recently? If Superbia is final mafia as I suspect, the fact he has posted less than Alakaslam is telling at this point. At the very least I would expect him to be able to justify or try and justify a push on Fidei. Because I smelt bullshit so far from that push once we were past n1. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
Like it's utterly ridiculous. Why would the last mafia be afking if he/she's the last one left? Why not just concede? You don't scumread someone for that. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On September 15 2015 21:02 Superbia wrote: Then lynch me tomorrow and lose the game if it's fidei or scott. I'm kind of done since everyone seems to forget certain parts of their reads on the fly if it fits their little world. Like it's utterly ridiculous. Why would the last mafia be afking if he/she's the last one left? Why not just concede? You don't scumread someone for that. Then I'm utterly frustrated as to why you're doing this. We're not "fitting it into our little world" you're the most objectively scummy person here. If you're town, share your thoughts because I frankly do think you're Mafia. NM is town, scott is likely town, Fidei is also likely town, Slam actually shared his thoughts. I don't know what you're doing. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Also I'm not sure it is alignment indicative but what in the actual fuck is a chupazi? | ||
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Superbia
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- Townies do not have all the information -> being iffy on mafia is not a scummy trait on its own. - There are certain events that may occur in a game which you think may be set up by mafia, but in general these things are not/never set up by mafia. Mafia sets things up which have a certainty to it. E.g. if they want to look good they "bus" a team mate or "town-read" a townie. (Yes, this is in reference to my EoD3 BF's defense, which should have me high in the town circle, but whatever). - Mafia wants to hide during the game. This does not mean lurking. It means that they want to be townread by town and just in general slide by. They can be active, they can be shouting or whatever. Their reads can even be 100% correct. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On September 15 2015 21:07 NocturneMage wrote: I'm very busy at work but I'll wrap up looking into Fidei and a tinfoil MD before the end of night just so I've covered everything. Also I'm not sure it is alignment indicative but what in the actual fuck is a chupazi? The houses of Chezinu and Chupazi. Chupazi are little bats that fly out of Mafia's words and scream their names to call attention to scum. ... At least according to Alakaslam. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On September 15 2015 21:08 Superbia wrote: I'm done. I've already said who I wanted to lynch this game. Nobody cares because I'm not townread. Okay, I'm taking it that these are your supposed lynches: On September 14 2015 07:22 Superbia wrote: Oh yeah, my two mafia are fidei and slam. In case I die. | ||
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