Oh yeah, something I forgot to mention was that the night kill WIFOM doesn't make sense. Like, there are other teammates besides CopCake that exist and they were the ones who probably wanted to kill yamato/rayn as the town leaders. Like sure, it did help to clear her, but it doesn't make her confirmed town in any way.

I don't like how Superbia basically refused to look over CopCake the entire game despite my entire tunnel on her lol.

Good post NocturneMage.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

September 14 2015 20:53 GMT

#2842

at least I checked superbia.

fuck randomisation for giving superbia the (likely) GF role and not the vanilla mafia role.

let's see if I can find more things.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 20:54 GMT

#2843

mmm...It also makes sense. CopCake would have wanted to bus everything out of the Mafia Goon and then town read the Godfather which was Superbia per her penguin MSPaint.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 20:55 GMT

#2844

Also, I doubt that the Godfather would really just act like Alakaslam did. That's just really bad play from him in general if he /afks. If he did that, then he might as well have conceded as CopCake basically did.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#2845

On September 15 2015 05:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I doubt that the Godfather would really just act like Alakaslam did. That's just really bad play from him in general if he /afks. If he did that, then he might as well have conceded as CopCake basically did.

His response also points in that direction because he clearly gives no fucks. If he was Mafia, I highly think that he would have conceded. I still think that there's a possibility he might concede by end of day like how Viscera did in the other game so we'll have to wait and see. I would still like to hear his thoughts though.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

September 14 2015 20:59 GMT

#2846

On September 15 2015 05:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Oh yeah, something I forgot to mention was that the night kill WIFOM doesn't make sense. Like, there are other teammates besides CopCake that exist and they were the ones who probably wanted to kill yamato/rayn as the town leaders. Like sure, it did help to clear her, but it doesn't make her confirmed town in any way.

On September 14 2015 07:47 NocturneMage wrote:
Someone argued that the nightkills were suboptimal. At first I thought the Yamato kill was suboptimal for mafia copcake but then I realised the Yamato kill had to have been done anyhow because it was a medic dodge for rayn. Rayn is getting killed by EVERY mafia team out there - Copcake if mafia is not the only mafia team. So the kills as far as I realise are NAI for Copcake.

Superbia has fuck load more experience than me. I would assume he should know much better than me.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 20:59 GMT

#2847

On September 15 2015 05:53 NocturneMage wrote:
at least I checked superbia.

fuck randomisation for giving superbia the (likely) GF role and not the vanilla mafia role.

let's see if I can find more things.

Also, you should discontinue with this thought of focusing on the people that you checked. Like you literally could have checked anyone and they would have turned up green. It really doesn't matter who you would have checked because you would have gotten a green in response.

I do think that scott is probs town here and I do have a weaker town lean on Fidei. I just don't like you to follow that train of thought because it is false.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

September 14 2015 21:04 GMT

#2848

well here's the thing.

irrespective of whom I checked.

alakaslam and superbia are objectively the most scummy compared to scott/fidei.

I already looked through scott's filter plus several games of his from the database. I give it about a 5% chance or less he's the godfather. I also saw what was a reasonable explanation for his meta read on gb.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

September 14 2015 21:06 GMT

#2849

if you disagree and are seeing stuff on scott/fidei that I am not, let me know. I can look at it.

and if you are somehow (warning: super insane tinfoil alert) the final mafia, town will never win this game.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 21:09 GMT

#2850

On September 15 2015 06:04 NocturneMage wrote:
well here's the thing.

irrespective of whom I checked.

alakaslam and superbia are objectively the most scummy compared to scott/fidei.

I already looked through scott's filter plus several games of his from the database. I give it about a 5% chance or less he's the godfather. I also saw what was a reasonable explanation for his meta read on gb.

Yeah, that is true. Just saying that your earlier reasoning to look more into the people that you've already checked was false. -.- Slam/Superbia are the most scummy here.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

September 14 2015 21:09 GMT

#2851

Fidei is the last I need to do a serious deep dive on from start to end. But that waits until tomorrow.

I'm going to spend time with the wife and "save" her from playing shitty dota

(no fucking idea how people enjoy that game. zero.)

good night all.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

September 14 2015 21:11 GMT

#2852

I'll be about till EOD NM, so if you have any questions before then then let me know.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

September 14 2015 21:13 GMT

#2853

Hmm, since EOD is tomorrow, I definitely will be. FML.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 21:16 GMT

#2854

On September 15 2015 06:06 NocturneMage wrote:
if you disagree and are seeing stuff on scott/fidei that I am not, let me know. I can look at it.

and if you are somehow (warning: super insane tinfoil alert) the final mafia, town will never win this game.

You would need about a couple hundred yards of tinfoil to justify that sir.

I'm just happy that my game's been improving a ton. My reads were fairly good this game and I'm proud that I went full tryhard mode this game. The one thing that I probably do need to work on is my behavior which I'd like to apologize for in case I offended anyone. mmm...I should also probably do more analytic skills and filter diving. I think that's why I did really well this game.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 21:17 GMT

#2855

On September 15 2015 06:11 Fidei86 wrote:
I'll be about till EOD NM, so if you have any questions before then then let me know.

Thoughts on Superbia? Especially NM's latest cases.

Fidei86

United Kingdom2116 Posts

September 14 2015 21:55 GMT

#2856

I liked it a lot. Superbia's reads on Cake have been pretty erratic, and not entirely justified. I mean, how could Cake be "inno child" in a game where she hasn't really done anything? Lots of people, including me, had tone town-reads on Cake at the start. But it's really weird that he started that tone read only after D1, which was the only day that Cake did anything anyway.

MoosyDoosy

United States4519 Posts

September 14 2015 23:30 GMT

#2857

I don't think she likes you Nocturne.

On September 15 2015 07:11 CopCake wrote:
##Unvote
##vote: nocturnemage

Alakaslam

United States17324 Posts

September 15 2015 01:23 GMT

#2858

My apologies for exploding.

I will try to meet minimum requirements. I legit do not have any time this week, I will be hard pressed to login.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

September 15 2015 02:23 GMT

#2859

Day 4 Votecount

CopCake (6): scott31337, NocturneMage, MoosyDoosy, Superbia, Alakaslam, Fidei86
NocturneMage (1): CopCake

Not Voting (0):

If CopCake doesn't watch it, they are liable to handelin' the wrong end of a pistol in with 6 votes. Please do not forget to vote.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494187-nsm-xiv-firefly-voting-thread

Please vote in the voting thread if you want your vote to be counted.

scott31337

United States2979 Posts

September 15 2015 04:00 GMT

#2860

On September 15 2015 10:23 Alakaslam wrote:
My apologies for exploding.

I will try to meet minimum requirements. I legit do not have any time this week, I will be hard pressed to login.

I get busy too - just tell us your thoughts of the CHUPAZI