Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 116

On September 11 2015 17:33 boxerfred wrote:

This is from D1 after GlowingBears claim. This post is an answer to rayn who hit the truth in his "claiming vig D1 is a great thing to call out a town role, get a blue kill in exchange for the goon." (though rayn couldn't know that GB is the goon at that point. This post is strange in many ways. Superbia thinks GB might do a (serious!) vigi claim at the very beginning of D1. To me, claiming blue D1 is like the stupidest thing you can do if you truely are a blue. How does Superbia come to that conclusion? The bolded part contradicts the initial meaning of the post ("nah guys GB is stupid not scum") however. It's 100% wishywashy.

Also, the initial post (the quote in the quote) - why is Superbia disliking rayn for his reaction to GB? He should be disliking GB for the initial blue shenanigans. This post really feels like it's coming from someone who has to hide something.

Time for the tinfoil hat:


What if that was a serious response to a claim that Superbia thought was real? Also, WHY did GB claim Vigi if he DID know about the setup? This makes me feel really (really!) unsure if there is indeed a doctor in. We have two people D1 (GB, Superbia) that are willing to think that there is a Vigi in. However, GB claimed Doctor and Rayn claimed Doctor. There was NO counterclaim up to this point, keep that in mind guys!

We have two setup slips from GB (Vigi, Doc) and we do not know which one is true.
Out of this, I extract two scenarios.

a) Doctor setup. Superbia's CC to GB was pure bullshit, making him look townie.
b) Vigi setup. Superbia's CC to GB was the truth, making him, well, look townie.
c) Vigi + Doc claim was absolutely bullshit (which is the unlikeliest to me)

I'm kinda surprised that I come to this conclusion.
I'll continue with the setup before going back to Superbia:

Vigi setup feels the most likely to me TBH. 2/3 goons in scum - that means the chance that GB would flip scum as goon is higher than in any other setup. Also, we have no DOCTOR counter claimed except the rayn yolo, which was risky but great however it was not a Doctor. Basically, ANY rule could've counterclaimed the doctor that is Vigi, Veteran or Jailkeeper. So GB's claim EoD1 could have played out awesome for scum, ESPECIALLY in Setup B (1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 2 Mafia Goons). Mafia would've exchanged a simple goon with a strong town blue, potentially Jailkeeper. I think at this point I have a pretty good theory who another blue role is but I won't tell since I don't want the guy to get killed.

Okay, back to Superbia. As I said above - the behaviour from this post is conclusively townie. Maybe my logic is flawed somewhere, somehow, so please test the waters. Another point that makes Superbia look townie D1 is that he instantly jumped on GB's claim - why would a fellow scum member do this given that he'd know GB's plan of outing a blue? It doesn't make sense.


Although noone brings up the claim after all D1, Superbia does so when NM enters the thread. This could be out of "yo maybe NM replaced a blue and GB's trick might work here" (which I don't think tbh - feels way to unrealistic) or is indeed a "look at this and tell me what you think". Genuine.

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Here is more interaction from GB which makes Superbia change his read of scott from town. This looks important:




And indeed, Superbia brings up GB's case on Scott:


At this point of filter diving, I have to say that Superbia's filter is full of oneliners, full of questions that lead to nowhere and don't do a thing. Not liking this at all. Also, he really likes GB's case on scott (this is one of the rare occasions where Superbia actually says his opinion). Here, he says it even multiple times:







Scum read on Moosy, again (consistent!). However lateron, Slam calls Superbia out on his growing wishy-washyness:


This is accurate. How big is the chance the scum!superbia would call out both of his team mates in one post (scott/gb vs. moosy/copcake)? This makes me feel he's town.


This is huge. Again that makes me feel Superbia is town.

I am now at his huge list post and will refer to this in a different post for the sake of readability.

tl;dr - I actually think Superbia is not a good lynch this day. He appears townie to me after I fully evaluated his filter.