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Palmar
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On August 29 2015 00:34 marvellosity wrote: don't tempt me, i will happily sit by and watch you get lynched for the giggles I'm not worried. Also, if a cop checks me tonight I'm going to be so fucking mad. | ||
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Palmar
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On August 29 2015 00:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh yeah and VE. VE I wanna do some teaming up with you. Not only can we get shit done I think it will help me cement my read on you one way or another. See this is my problem this game. There's a massive town circlejerk that basically includes everyone (by association) except like deconduo, hopeless, Vivax | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:39 marvellosity wrote: i would hope we can pick out the townie-looking scummies by picking off whichever the low hanging fruit is Yes this is exactly my problem with someone like VE. He is literally chasing things that will never happen. He has, by choice, made himself useless. And I don't even think this makes him mafia. He is going after people that are part of this mutual giant circlejerk. | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Yes and there's been a good reason for it. Unfortunately it means either someone (or someones) playing very well, likely beyond what would e expected of them, or we were right to lynch into those guys in the first place and we'll get there. Also I don't think it includes everyone because I'm only included for some people, cc isn't included, Trfel and ksc aren't included. Trfel is included. KSC has a huge filter but I don't remember much of what he said. | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah that's about what I expected marv. Like it's nothing I can be like "Oh yeah" because it's all based on your subjective memory of how he plays as one alignment or another. On top of that Palmar is a player who at least superficially tries to mimic his townplay as mafia, so using reasoning he'd use as town AS mafia is....not just well within his gamut, but expected. Anyway, I get what you're saying. I just disagree. Can you do everything again but assume that everything you've already done is wrong and bad? That'd be great. | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:49 VisceraEyes wrote: And it's posts like this that make me even more certain Palmar is mafia. I'm not useless by a fucking stretch. I'm giving my opinions and thoughts, and pushing my preferences. Just because Palmar is townreading someone doesn't make them off limits for lynch and by extension useless for me to push, but Palmar would have you believe otherwise. Yes you are useless. I am not mafia Trfel is like 95% town We are your #1 and #2 scumreads therefore you might as well just not be playing the game. | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:52 VisceraEyes wrote: And from my perspective Trfel has done nothing to warrant a 95% townread, so you stating as much is either you covering for a scumbuddy or trying to pocket a townie with TMI. On top of that you're intentionally trying to infuriate me by repeatedly calling me bad, which leads me to believe that you're TRYING to make me quit trying, which is a very mafia thing of you to do. I don't have agendas I'm not trying to make you go fuck it, I'm specifically trying to get you to assume you've been wrong so far and go do something useful. I'm enabling your success in a sort of dickish way. | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:56 WaveofShadow wrote: VE time to detunnel. Also palmar I assert that Trfel is only allowed to be 95% town if I am. I disallow this. | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah okay what the fuck ever, apparently it doesn't even matter what I think so who the fuck cares anyway? Actually I'm very interested in what you have to say. I'm just helping you out. You have done shit and reached a conclusion. Now I'm being such a helpful guy and telling you your conclusion is wrong, precisely to enable you to go back and reach a better conclusion. All I'm doing I do out of love. I am trying as hard as I can to help you succeed. Like it's so strange to be me in this situation, you feel like I'm being a dick, but I know I'm just helping you out. Unless you're mafia (which I think is ever less likely) I am literally trying to make you look better by removing the noise and errors in your conclusions to make them better. You're the one who doesn't care what I have to say. If you take your research, and supplement it with my help, it'll make it better. | ||
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Palmar
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On August 29 2015 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Well unfortunately that means I just can't trust your reads because you've proven them to be bad this game. Not really I didn't vote a townie yesterday, or at least I haven't been confirmed to vote a townie. | ||
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Palmar
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On August 29 2015 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote: I think the only way for me to be objective about this game is to remove Trfel/Palmar from the equation entirely. If they're both mafia it's gonna be a long fucking game for me, but whatever, apparently I haven't even been playing up to now anyway so there you have it. I'm gonna reread under the assumption that Palmar and Trfel are both confirmed town and see where that gets me. Great! I'm looking forward to this. | ||
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On August 29 2015 01:05 justanothertownie wrote: You DID vote a townie yesterday no matter how much of a saint you think you are. Maybe you didn't END UP on a townie. That remains to be seen. The vote is always a process. Also, you're mafia. | ||
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On August 29 2015 01:12 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, my mood tells me to sheep marv on palmar, palmar on Trfel and ignore every word palmar posts because his posts are literally cancer. lol But I'm surprisingly okay with this strategy. | ||
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On August 27 2015 22:43 Palmar wrote: Also jat, I offer you this deal. If Trfel flips scum, I'll admit I was bad and you were right. If Trfel flips town, you admit you're a baddie and there were real good reasons to lynch you. The downside for you is you have to admit you're a baddie even if you yourself are mafia, not just if you flip town. | ||
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I'm also not wrong on you if I never vote you at the day end and you're town. | ||
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On August 29 2015 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I hope we're not all waiting on me. I'm definitely not trying to re-read the game in less than twelve hours, not with my schedule anyway. I'll do so if I live through the night. In the meantime we can talk about players like Hopeless and decon. Players who have no horse in the race as it were with regard to Palmar/Trfel. For starters I thought the way Hopeless opened the night with "Well I'm fucked" was a little awkward in a guilty-conscience sort of way. Taken with his entrance to the tread, I think there could be a good chance of him flipping mafia. Thoughts? I moved off BF precisely because his filter did not come across as awkward at all. While obviously I had like 3 minutes to read bf and hopeless, I did not get the same feeling from hopeless' filter. It may not mean anything until I read more but still. | ||
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1: in a literal sense or manner : actually <took the remark literally> <was literally insane> 2: in effect : virtually <will literally turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice — Norman Cousins> | ||
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