EPTTL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2 - Page 8
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justanothertownie
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On August 27 2015 22:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: I mean, the only thing that's really marks against CC right now is meta (which is useless in this case) and that he has taken very confident early stances. It's suspicious enough to warrant a second look since the second point can be TMI, but I don't think it's enough to try and make a case on him D1. Why do you think CCs meta is useless here? I see no reason to think this at all. On August 27 2015 22:39 Palmar wrote: Just so it's clear. JAT you're NOT being lynched for no reason. You're being lynched, in part because of the expectation that you're not shit at mafia, for making an observation/comment about that was very easily explainable about a guy who is going to flip town this game. Then you keep pushing that same person for awful reasons. Sure, you may just be town and wrong, but I'm applying the expected standard that if someone is obvious town you should not be going after them. Or I'm wrong. But I doubt that. You are the only one scumreading me for that and the fact that nobody agrees with your Trfel is confirmed town nonsense should tell you something. On August 27 2015 22:43 Palmar wrote: Also jat, I offer you this deal. If Trfel flips scum, I'll admit I was bad and you were right. If Trfel flips town, you admit you're a baddie and there were real good reasons to lynch you. The downside for you is you have to admit you're a baddie even if you yourself are mafia, not just if you flip town. Why would I sign this deal? I do not know what Trfel flips and even if he flips town that does not make me a better lynch. Being wrong is not a scumtell otherwise you and rsoultin would be my top mafiareads. And you will have to admit you were bad anyways since you based your whole game so far on me being scum and called me 100 % scum repeatedly. | ||
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On August 27 2015 22:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Further this content from Trfel would have you believe that he's looking for an alternative lynch to JAT - SOMEONE I'VE BEEN HARD DEFENDING ALL FUCKING GAME. Yet I'm a mafia read at latest count, apparently WITH JAT? AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO LYNCH EITHER OF US?!?!? I'm really fighting an urge to instavote. Yes, that post evidently induces an urge to vote. | ||
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On August 27 2015 21:56 marvellosity wrote: I can pay attention in fits and starts while i'm at work (next 4 hours) and then in the couple hours leading up to deadline i guess. Ok, I will tell you how this will go. At some point (maybe now, maybe later - at some point I will have to get some much needed sleep in) I will read the filters and give you a list with my opinion on anyone. We can then discuss who we are lynching today and once there is a good candidate I may conduct further research on that player. You will consider me confirmed town as long as we are discussing this because that is the world we are living in and I have no interest in talking to you about hypothetical worlds or to defend against any bad read you or anyone you for some inexplicable reason trust have/has on me. Anyone who wants to chime in and be acknowledged as doing so has to do the same or I will simply ignore them. | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:36 Palmar wrote: Is it hypocritical to be slightly suspicious of WoS for TMI in sort of defending Trfel? How can I be mafia for misreading Trfel and WoS mafia for reading him correctly in a TMI kind of way at the same time? THat seems pretty impossible. | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:37 marvellosity wrote: don't really see myself lynching trfel today Based purely on rsoultins toneread or anything concrete? | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:41 Palmar wrote: On the surface the mafia is like: decon Vivax bf and we win. The probability that there is at least 1 or 2 in there is definitely exists. | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:43 marvellosity wrote: obviously the possibility exists lol On August 27 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote: Goddamn it. You know what I meant. | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:44 WaveofShadow wrote: JAT question for you. Do you actually think I'm scum? Because I'm not sure if I remember you mentioning it anywhere. If so, is it anything independent of CC? I think you could very well be scum and have said so before. I reserve further judgement until I read your filter but I don't think it had anything to do with CC. | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote: scumreading jat and voting someone who hasn't posted is just so fucking weird. would he even do that as mafia? am confused What the actual fuck? Did you even read my posts about him earlier? I said EXACTLY this. | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:02 rsoultin wrote: He's more confident of his metaread on hopeless? What "metaread"? There is no metaread since there is no meta. The guy did not post. | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:17 rsoultin wrote: Are you townreading truffle now cause if you're not them you didn't say exactly this :/ That post is no townread. | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote: the fact you, or anyone else, had a particular thought before doesn't stop me from having it later while i'm musing on it ^^ Yes, but then why did you not say anything when I brought it up and later claim I do not contribute? Whatever. | ||
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On August 27 2015 00:55 WaveofShadow wrote: ##unvote Should have just said marv/Palmar dominated game. Which is fine I suppose since they're both extremely likely to be town at this point. Let's see. Welcome back CC. First thoughts are that he's town because I remember him posting similarly to this in a couple of towngames we played together, that being said there is ONE old-as-hell scumgame of his I want to look back at (where he ragequit eventually 'cause his team was shitty or something?) because what someone (marv?) said about him being more coherent as scum could be true but I truly don't remember. 2-year-old meta meh anyway but I have re-embraced the use of meta recently to decent effect so we'll see. Tentative townread for the moment. Rsoul extremely likely to be town from interactions. Scummiest people stand out to me as JAT because the last time I remember Palmar going like this on anyone, it was on me when I was scum when nobody else ever catches me. Moosy because pocketing efforts when I am the only one in this game he knows to be 'good.' I say 'good' because I have been SUPER on point in the last whole bunch of games I've played (as both alignments for once) and Moosy correctly realizes that I could be a threat based on that. Which brings me to Fucking brutal guys. Is all of that really necessary? I actually have gained some confidence in my play for once and I refuse to let it be crushed by the likes of you. Unfortunately the fact that I'm not here means if either of the aforementioned are scum I won't have contributed at all to their lynches which is super bleh. ##vote: JAT This is still the biggest problem I have with Wave. He talks about anything besides me but votes me. We will see later that this is a reoccurring theme. On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote: You're sweet. I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep. I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read. He probably would have said the same “I am way better than that” last game when he just afked to victory. That’s not an argument and Wave should know it. Here we also have the “fairly decent read” statement. On August 27 2015 01:09 WaveofShadow wrote: I got some feels about it a little early on because I'm used to JAT being a fun-killer as town and wasn't getting any of that, and he was fairly forgettable early as well when he has no problem inserting himself into stuff. The fact that Palmar when ham super early makes it more difficult for ME to get a better read on him, but also the fact that Palmar is going ham on him so early is a good sign based on my recent experiences with town Palmar, so I am absolutely fine sheeping here. Certainly doesn't hurt that marv agrees and is 99.9% town. Completely shifts every bit of blame and responsibility for his most important read to Palmar and never puts in any effort to figure out if I am actually mafia or what even constitutes Palmars read. Prove: On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote: As for how this relates to Trfel/rsoul.....dunno. Palmars whole read on me is based on the Trfel stuff. On August 27 2015 02:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Trfel posts WAY better filler as scum. This statement is really curious. Does this mean Wave thinks Trfels towngame is worse than his scumgame? It doesn’t make any sense. On August 27 2015 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Like MAYBE I can see Moosy giving lynch wagon credit to rsoul. Maybe. But me? This post I really agree with. The problem is that I don’t know if I should award Wave any townpoints for it since he would realize how little he contributes towards it as both alignments. If anything it shows that Wave is still willing to lynch me without putting in effort to read me. On August 27 2015 03:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Do I have reason to trust your trfel-whisperer thing? Don't you claim to have reads like that on other people too like brehske or something? Are those truly always right? I don't remember. This post feels super out of place to me. Wave probably knows about her tonereads very well. What does this question achieve? Filler. In essence I think barring me finding better targets Wave already has a decent shot at being mafia. His vote is still on me and he hasn’t put the slightest bit of effort into figuring me out. 0 interest in the alignment of the leading wagon is not what I expect of a town Waveofshadow. I will make a donotlynch list later and he will certainly not be part of it. | ||
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