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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2015 01:58 GMT
#941
On August 27 2015 10:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 10:41 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:39 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
No. I find Trfel's post strange as well. hopeless1der is likely to get modkilled at any rate so there's no use in voting him right now. Not to mention there's been no discussion about VE recently, although Kels has been questioning about me.

@Trfel, give us other thoughts on more people. Who else would you lynch besides hopeless.
Hopeless1der isn't going to get modkilled. He'll come back and start posting.

But I don't care, I want to talk about him now. Why don't you?

Why should I want to discuss VisceraEyes?
Ok, fine, I take it back. I should probably discuss VisceraEyes.

? There's no way for you to know that Hopeless1der is going to come back unless you've talked with him outside of this thread.
Ok, I don't know for certain that Hopeless1der is coming back. But I don't care about if he gets replaced or modkilled? I'll deal with that if/when it happens.

What is your point?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 27 2015 01:59 GMT
#942
On August 27 2015 10:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy I'm here entertain me

Why exactly did you say that JAT was town earlier? What post/argument in particular made you change your mind.


I said somewhere that JAT was town, but I didn't really have a reason for it. I thought that Palmar's argument was bad, and figured that JAT was just the victim of Palmar's rage. He was probably just town being attacked. I did think, though, the way he stood his ground against Palmar was townie. However, somewhere along the line I realized that no matter JAT's alignment he can't just back down. I still don't think that Palmar's case has any weight, and this meta stuff i don't care about. I told JAT I'd lynch him if he didn't do anything productive, and that's true. He's complained about Palmar scumreading him but hasn't really done much (scumhunting) to earn himself a pass for today.

So...town read? scum read? null read? exactly where is he on ur list of reads.


It's evolved from probably just town to nullish into I-have-no-idea lol

Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read?

-shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for being accused of what's "no real case" and getting angry over it.

Edited because last sentence was unclear:
Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read?

-shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for getting angry over "no real case".
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 27 2015 02:00 GMT
#943
On August 27 2015 10:58 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 10:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:41 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:39 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
No. I find Trfel's post strange as well. hopeless1der is likely to get modkilled at any rate so there's no use in voting him right now. Not to mention there's been no discussion about VE recently, although Kels has been questioning about me.

@Trfel, give us other thoughts on more people. Who else would you lynch besides hopeless.
Hopeless1der isn't going to get modkilled. He'll come back and start posting.

But I don't care, I want to talk about him now. Why don't you?

Why should I want to discuss VisceraEyes?
Ok, fine, I take it back. I should probably discuss VisceraEyes.

? There's no way for you to know that Hopeless1der is going to come back unless you've talked with him outside of this thread.
Ok, I don't know for certain that Hopeless1der is coming back. But I don't care about if he gets replaced or modkilled? I'll deal with that if/when it happens.

What is your point?

Share your thoughts on others and switch your vote. If Hopeless1der comes back and doesn't get modkilled then we can decide what to do with him. But since he hasn't done anything, it's kinda ridiculous to try and kill him. I'd like the "share your thoughts" part especially.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2015 02:01 GMT
#944
On August 27 2015 10:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Trfel why is your most significant contribution to the game voting somebody who cannot defend themselves?
If you knew why, you'd be voting with me.

You should sheep me on this one. MoosyDoosy, you too.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 02:02 GMT
#945
On August 27 2015 10:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy I'm here entertain me

Why exactly did you say that JAT was town earlier? What post/argument in particular made you change your mind.


I said somewhere that JAT was town, but I didn't really have a reason for it. I thought that Palmar's argument was bad, and figured that JAT was just the victim of Palmar's rage. He was probably just town being attacked. I did think, though, the way he stood his ground against Palmar was townie. However, somewhere along the line I realized that no matter JAT's alignment he can't just back down. I still don't think that Palmar's case has any weight, and this meta stuff i don't care about. I told JAT I'd lynch him if he didn't do anything productive, and that's true. He's complained about Palmar scumreading him but hasn't really done much (scumhunting) to earn himself a pass for today.

So...town read? scum read? null read? exactly where is he on ur list of reads.


It's evolved from probably just town to nullish into I-have-no-idea lol

Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read?

-shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for being accused of what's "no real case" and getting angry over it.


I agree there was / is no real case on him, but JAT's reaction to the pressure is pretty horrible because he isn't doing anything productive. I figure if he were townie he'd shrug off the pressure and just give his reads. Right? I think mafia have a higher propensity to get angry about being scumread. I also wanted to see his reaction to me flipping on him. His reaction was thus:
On August 27 2015 06:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 06:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JAT I need your top scumread. I could lynch you because I think you are being objectively scummy by sulking that Palmar is being a meanie pants. So if you're town please brush yourself off and behind anew like a phoenix rising from it's ashes. Produce all that content that others are not providing.

Haha, you are a funny one. Weren't you the guy harddefending me earlier? And now you want to lynch me for being "objectively scummy" even though I wasn't even in the thread since then? It's midnight, I am drunk and I have to get up early tomorrow. If you think I will put any serious effort in right now you are delusional.


It's part incorrect, part weird since he liked my posts about Wave. I also asked him nicely to be productive and rise from his ashes.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2015 02:05 GMT
#946
On August 27 2015 11:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 10:58 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:41 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:39 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
No. I find Trfel's post strange as well. hopeless1der is likely to get modkilled at any rate so there's no use in voting him right now. Not to mention there's been no discussion about VE recently, although Kels has been questioning about me.

@Trfel, give us other thoughts on more people. Who else would you lynch besides hopeless.
Hopeless1der isn't going to get modkilled. He'll come back and start posting.

But I don't care, I want to talk about him now. Why don't you?

Why should I want to discuss VisceraEyes?
Ok, fine, I take it back. I should probably discuss VisceraEyes.

? There's no way for you to know that Hopeless1der is going to come back unless you've talked with him outside of this thread.
Ok, I don't know for certain that Hopeless1der is coming back. But I don't care about if he gets replaced or modkilled? I'll deal with that if/when it happens.

What is your point?

Share your thoughts on others and switch your vote. If Hopeless1der comes back and doesn't get modkilled then we can decide what to do with him. But since he hasn't done anything, it's kinda ridiculous to try and kill him. I'd like the "share your thoughts" part especially.
I've shared my general thoughts on most people; you can assume that for people I did not share my thoughts on, that I agree with the thread sentiment. If you want more detail, you'll have to wait for late evening, which is when I have the majority of my time to play mafia.

There are less than 20 hours remaining until the deadline. I'm making it clear right now that I think that Hopeless1der is likely mafia, and that I want to lynch him. I have explained why.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 27 2015 02:05 GMT
#947
On August 27 2015 11:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 10:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Moosy I'm here entertain me

Why exactly did you say that JAT was town earlier? What post/argument in particular made you change your mind.


I said somewhere that JAT was town, but I didn't really have a reason for it. I thought that Palmar's argument was bad, and figured that JAT was just the victim of Palmar's rage. He was probably just town being attacked. I did think, though, the way he stood his ground against Palmar was townie. However, somewhere along the line I realized that no matter JAT's alignment he can't just back down. I still don't think that Palmar's case has any weight, and this meta stuff i don't care about. I told JAT I'd lynch him if he didn't do anything productive, and that's true. He's complained about Palmar scumreading him but hasn't really done much (scumhunting) to earn himself a pass for today.

So...town read? scum read? null read? exactly where is he on ur list of reads.


It's evolved from probably just town to nullish into I-have-no-idea lol

Why didn't you just read him as an angry townie and instead scum read JAT down to a null read?

-shrugs- if you think there's no real case on him then he should be a town in your eyes. If that's the case, I think you should try to work with him to calm him down and get him to be productive. Instead i saw you scum reading him for being accused of what's "no real case" and getting angry over it.


I agree there was / is no real case on him, but JAT's reaction to the pressure is pretty horrible because he isn't doing anything productive. I figure if he were townie he'd shrug off the pressure and just give his reads. Right? I think mafia have a higher propensity to get angry about being scumread. I also wanted to see his reaction to me flipping on him. His reaction was thus:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 06:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 06:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
JAT I need your top scumread. I could lynch you because I think you are being objectively scummy by sulking that Palmar is being a meanie pants. So if you're town please brush yourself off and behind anew like a phoenix rising from it's ashes. Produce all that content that others are not providing.

Haha, you are a funny one. Weren't you the guy harddefending me earlier? And now you want to lynch me for being "objectively scummy" even though I wasn't even in the thread since then? It's midnight, I am drunk and I have to get up early tomorrow. If you think I will put any serious effort in right now you are delusional.


It's part incorrect, part weird since he liked my posts about Wave. I also asked him nicely to be productive and rise from his ashes.

hmm...ok. Not lynching Cheesycakes today or D2 unless something radical comes up.

I'd like reads from Trfel~~
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 02:08 GMT
#948
I could go for a decondou lynch too. Clearly disinterested with the game, a common sign of having all the information already. Also votes Moosy who is most likely town at this point.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 02:09 GMT
#949
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 27 2015 02:11 GMT
#950
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo
Hopeless1der is more likely to be scum than the other two because of meta.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia

Here you go.

It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, and very useful.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 27 2015 02:12 GMT
#951
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo

I town tone read deconduo and boxer has done nothing. I don't really care to lynch either of them.

Also, I am not most likely town this game. I've been playing very sub-optimally and have been deviating very far from my D1 meta which was a mistake on my part. -shrugs- But I'll make do for now until N1.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 27 2015 02:15 GMT
#952
On August 27 2015 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo
Hopeless1der is more likely to be scum than the other two because of meta.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia

Here you go.

It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, and very useful.

Sigh. As I'm saying, meta is all fine and well but as I say, Hopeless will resolve himself at the end of D1. Either he posts and we lynch him or he doesn't post and he's replaced/modkilled.

Eh, I don't see why you're so hung up on him. who is #2 lynch target besides hopeless?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 02:15 GMT
#953
On August 27 2015 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo
Hopeless1der is more likely to be scum than the other two because of meta.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia

Here you go.

It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, and very useful.


Okay, so Hopeless is demoralized due to his last scum game and doesn't want to post. Or, he could just as easily be busy with whatever it is Hopeless does in his non-mafia time. Or he's town and just has no reads. Or he's just plainly disinterested in this game as either alignment, and is waiting to blow our minds. When his actual content within the realm of this game matches the game you've posted, then I will consider the information valuable.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 27 2015 02:18 GMT
#954
I'm inclined to pressure deconduo and force him to give us reads. His absolute absence of any is rather worrying as he normally would have at least some. The only thing really going for him is tone reads.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 02:18 GMT
#955
On August 27 2015 11:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo

I town tone read deconduo and boxer has done nothing. I don't really care to lynch either of them.

Also, I am not most likely town this game. I've been playing very sub-optimally and have been deviating very far from my D1 meta which was a mistake on my part. -shrugs- But I'll make do for now until N1.


Boxer has made an entrance post, which exemplifies his thrill for playing as VT for the "fourth time in a row"! The more you call yourself not-town the more town you are.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 27 2015 02:20 GMT
#956
On August 27 2015 11:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm inclined to pressure deconduo and force him to give us reads. His absolute absence of any is rather worrying as he normally would have at least some. The only thing really going for him is tone reads.


What exactly is his "tone" in his posts? I'm reading his tone as ambivalent, which seems null at best. The only post I saw sort of town was his "let me tunnel" post because it seemed excited, but that excitement was quickly extinguished by him not doing anything.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 27 2015 02:24 GMT
#957
On August 27 2015 11:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 11:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm inclined to pressure deconduo and force him to give us reads. His absolute absence of any is rather worrying as he normally would have at least some. The only thing really going for him is tone reads.


What exactly is his "tone" in his posts? I'm reading his tone as ambivalent, which seems null at best. The only post I saw sort of town was his "let me tunnel" post because it seemed excited, but that excitement was quickly extinguished by him not doing anything.

He's relaxed and/or having fun and doesn't seem stressed at all. But that can be faked which is why he needs to give reads.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:45 GMT
#958
okay not lynching cc

hope you've got something better than that if you're town, jat lol ><

cause in all honesty by the time i go to bed i'll probably stay on wherever i'm parked; thursday is my heavy day for classes
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:47 GMT
#959
On August 27 2015 11:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo
Hopeless1der is more likely to be scum than the other two because of meta.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia

Here you go.

It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, and very useful.


>> i think you should stop being a lazy fuck and actually filter dive/read the thread instead of defaulting to a metaread that could just be hopeless has no time

has he posted a single thing? cause i don't remember him doing so
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 27 2015 02:49 GMT
#960
btw this is not me scumreading you

i know that this is likely you just being lazy cause you like to really put in the work when you analyze. i'm asking you as nicely as i can (given i don't have all the time in the world myself) to at least look through the people others are suspicious of instead of blatantly thumbing your nose at the thread. you signed up
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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