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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 14:55 GMT
#2907
Like if we lynch Vivax and he flips town then VE is confirmed town and the masons are very likely mafia. That's pretty good. If Vivax is mafia even better.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:19 GMT
#2921
On September 02 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:
I'm trying to think what this means.

This basically means that VE cannot be scum and Vivax town. Because Vivax would immediately call him out on it. The only possible options here are:

VE Scum, Vivax Scum
VE Town, Vivax Town
VE Town, Vivax Scum


It's not like I didn't tell you already.... and no moosy, vivax flipping mafia does not confirm ve as mafia but at least we would have lynched scum
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:34 GMT
#2922
On September 02 2015 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Think I want to lynch moosy

Is this some sort of elaborate scumclaim?
On September 02 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
In any case, I think we lynch Vivax today.

Unless you believe in a world with 5 blue roles he should be confirmed mafia to you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:37 GMT
#2924
On September 02 2015 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.

Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.

You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.

Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something.

"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"

Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.

All marv did was saying he isn't very confident in his reads in general. There was no coming around.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:38 GMT
#2925
Why are you so sure that Vivax is town and Palmar/Trfel mafia VE? From your perspective Vivax could absolutely be mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:41 GMT
#2929
I would like to hear Vivax explanation for JKing me last night because I do not really understand that. I however do understand the motivation of a rb or even better a rolecop to visit me because I am probably high on mafias "to kill" list.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:45 GMT
#2933
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.-
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:47 GMT
#2934
But I still think Vivax is the correct lynch here for the reasons I stated. If he is town we lynch the masons tomorrow and the day after that and definitely reach a final 3.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:50 GMT
#2938
On September 02 2015 01:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
But I still think Vivax is the correct lynch here for the reasons I stated. If he is town we lynch the masons tomorrow and the day after that and definitely reach a final 3.

I think I can roll with this. Who's your best guess on their partner in the case that Vivax is town?

I would have to think about this but I really don't want to without seeing the flip.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 16:55 GMT
#2941
On September 02 2015 01:53 Palmar wrote:
also here is a thing:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24788685

read the replies. In hindsight it's a hilarious passage. Let me paint a picture.

4 English gentlemen sit in a burning house and sip their tea.

"aye chaps the house is on fire, someone ought to do something about that"
"absolutely my good sir"
"we must act at once!"
"hear hear"

And then they continue sipping tea.

ahahaha
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:03 GMT
#2949
On September 02 2015 02:02 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 21:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Today Palmar and Trfel need to find the mafia in there and I will sheep. They have at least a 50:50 chance of hitting randomly in the group of 4 (that's if deconduo was framed/is gf - if he is town then it is 75 %). If they do not manage to do this we have a problem and they suck.
Look, I'm considering the game most likely solved right now. You seem to disagree. I'd like to know why you are not convinced.

Look. Explain to me how it is solved or what's the point of this post.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:04 GMT
#2950
On September 02 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
We're never lynching VE. Ever.

I will be very sad if you successfully pocketed me day1. But I guess that is only fair and I can't read you anyways.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:07 GMT
#2953
Trfel, catch up before you post please. Not that it doesn't make you look kinda towny to not know what's up but still.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:12 GMT
#2956
On September 02 2015 02:09 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 02:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 02 2015 02:02 Trfel wrote:
On September 01 2015 21:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Today Palmar and Trfel need to find the mafia in there and I will sheep. They have at least a 50:50 chance of hitting randomly in the group of 4 (that's if deconduo was framed/is gf - if he is town then it is 75 %). If they do not manage to do this we have a problem and they suck.
Look, I'm considering the game most likely solved right now. You seem to disagree. I'd like to know why you are not convinced.

Look. Explain to me how it is solved or what's the point of this post.
I've already done so.

It's perfectly acceptable if you disagree, I'd just like to know why.

KelsierSC and deconduo
Vivax (plus Palmar's point, which is very good)

I suppose it's possible that VisceraEyes is also mafia, but I sort of don't think so. And either way, I see three mafia in a group of four people, so that basically means the game is solved. At worst, it's three mafia in five people if you include MoosyDoosy, so if town agrees to not lynch myself and Palmar in LYLO that's an auto-win. But just finding one town makes the game solved without that.

Yes, it is nice that you just repeated what I said. I don't see your problem. That's not a solved game though. If you are town Vivax is almost certainly mafia but we will still have to find the 2 between Moosy, KSC, VE and deconduo. Which like you said means we need to find 1 townie in there.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:23 GMT
#2959
On September 02 2015 02:22 Trfel wrote:
Look at KelsierSC's last three posts. He knows that most people are calling him confirmed mafia, but he posts like that? I simply cannot see this coming from town at all.

Can anyone see town playing like this? If not, I don't see why we should lynch anyone but KelsierSC, I'd rather take the confirmed mafia lynch.

Yes, it is scummy. But the confirmed mafia lynch from your perspective is Vivax dude.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:33 GMT
#2962
I don't think I will allow a lynch on anyone but Vivax barring a towny miracle from his side. If he is mafia we are in a great spot because I will be confirmed town and the masons most likely (and even if they aren't they need to survive at least 2 nights). So mafia either has to show face by killing them (probably after me) or kill unconfirmed people solving the game for the masons.

If Vivax is town we lynch the masons back to back and get to a final 3.


Lynching Vivax is the mechanically correct play here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:34 GMT
#2963
Trfel I think we both forgot Mr. CC. See? The game isn't solved yet.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:36 GMT
#2964
On September 02 2015 02:31 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 02 2015 02:22 Trfel wrote:
Look at KelsierSC's last three posts. He knows that most people are calling him confirmed mafia, but he posts like that? I simply cannot see this coming from town at all.

Can anyone see town playing like this? If not, I don't see why we should lynch anyone but KelsierSC, I'd rather take the confirmed mafia lynch.

Yes, it is scummy. But the confirmed mafia lynch from your perspective is Vivax dude.
I'm more confident in KelsierSC flipping mafia, actually.... I can see the possibility that Vivax and VisceraEyes are both town (very unlikely, but I can see it). Not explaining why at this time.

You will have to explain this rather soon. Not that I think that this will ever change my mind. You can lynch Kelsier once Vivax flips scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:40 GMT
#2967
On September 02 2015 02:38 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think I will allow a lynch on anyone but Vivax barring a towny miracle from his side. If he is mafia we are in a great spot because I will be confirmed town and the masons most likely (and even if they aren't they need to survive at least 2 nights). So mafia either has to show face by killing them (probably after me) or kill unconfirmed people solving the game for the masons.

If Vivax is town we lynch the masons back to back and get to a final 3.


Lynching Vivax is the mechanically correct play here.
First, why does Vivax flipping mafia make you confirmed town? (not criticizing, I just don't know what you're getting at?)

Also, I guess that makes sense, mostly, anyway.

Well unless you think the mafiateam is exactly VE, Vivax and me this would make me confirmed town, no? Do you think that's very likely? No.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 01 2015 17:45 GMT
#2968
On September 02 2015 02:39 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 02 2015 02:31 Trfel wrote:
On September 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 02 2015 02:22 Trfel wrote:
Look at KelsierSC's last three posts. He knows that most people are calling him confirmed mafia, but he posts like that? I simply cannot see this coming from town at all.

Can anyone see town playing like this? If not, I don't see why we should lynch anyone but KelsierSC, I'd rather take the confirmed mafia lynch.

Yes, it is scummy. But the confirmed mafia lynch from your perspective is Vivax dude.
I'm more confident in KelsierSC flipping mafia, actually.... I can see the possibility that Vivax and VisceraEyes are both town (very unlikely, but I can see it). Not explaining why at this time.

You will have to explain this rather soon. Not that I think that this will ever change my mind. You can lynch Kelsier once Vivax flips scum.

And if Mr. Cheesecake is mafia, I'm fine to lose. That's just far too unlikely.

Maybe you are but I am not and I also don't know why you would be.
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