EPTSo if we assume this then your early Palmar comment was cleary some sort of shitty breadcrumb and I noticed something that was in fact not natural. AND PALMAR FUCKING KNEW THIS AND STILL PUSHED ME FOR IT. That's even more retarded then his push would be otherwise. Literally bush league level of play.
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So if we assume this then your early Palmar comment was cleary some sort of shitty breadcrumb and I noticed something that was in fact not natural. AND PALMAR FUCKING KNEW THIS AND STILL PUSHED ME FOR IT. That's even more retarded then his push would be otherwise. Literally bush league level of play. | ||
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On August 31 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote: Re: tinfoil hats scenario. If anyone doubts trfel and I are actually masons well... we have been hard, hard, hard defending each other for no good reasons since back on day 1. (if you want to know what's been going on in our mason qt, the answer is very little. we both seem to take the approach of mostly just posting our thoughts into the thread instead of keeping them secret). marv/decon. The only scenario I'm worried about is if they're both mafia. If one of them is mafia it is probably statisically best to ignore them and search for 2/6 mafia in the group of remaining players. I think we mass-claim tomorrow, with even doctors claiming, mostly because no one else should be blue than marv/trfel/I for the game to be balanced... in most situations. Marvs claim only makes sense as mafia if they are both scum anyways. Why would he remove lynchbait deconduo from the lynchpool? He doesn't need the towncred himself. The possible scenarios are in my opinion 1) both town 2) both mafia 3) deconduo was framed/gf | ||
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On August 31 2015 18:59 deconduo wrote: There is a very easy way to verify you are both masons together. Pick a time, and within 5 seconds of each other post both: - The solution to a relatively complicated equation - And the equation itself. For example something like: Cool stuff. The problem is that they can do the same as mafia :p And yes, it is tempting to just accept marv as town and move on from there because then we just leave Palmar/Trfel alive until LYLO and have a pretty small pool to pick out the mafia. | ||
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On August 31 2015 19:44 Palmar wrote: I think this is against the spirit of the game and I'm just not going to do it. It is irrelevant anyways. It would only reveal if at least one of you is town and VT instead of mason since this wouldn't prove if you are mason or mafia. | ||
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On August 31 2015 22:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: If I assume that you and Palmar are confirmed town then yes, I would have to say that your case against deconduo is very compelling. Why don't you comment on the other 2 mafiareads instead of the greencheck?! | ||
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On August 31 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote: It's not exactly crumbs. In the QT I wrote "I'm not gonna claim mason, I'm just gonna hard defend you all the time" Yes, but Trfel did crumb and in combination it was pretty obvious. If you are what you claim I wonder why mafia did not act accordingly night1 or if they are just blind. | ||
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On September 01 2015 00:08 Palmar wrote: RIP KSC  :/ | ||
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On September 01 2015 04:43 Trfel wrote: This portion is factually incorrect. I did care about the lynch, and I wanted to lynch Vivax. However, as stated, I didn't have any time to really play after Saturday evening. And I did state that I didn't want Mr. Cheesecake to be lynched well before. Vivax is throwing doubt where there shouldn't be and lying because he knows that if the mason claim is believed, mafia loses. The problem is mafia does not automatically lose and he IS right. If you 2 heroes would have claimed earlier you could have easily had this lynch go the way you want it. But you didn't. For some inexplicable reason. Yes, he is overdramatic about it and this is something Palmar would absolutely do since he just is an ass like that. | ||
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On September 01 2015 07:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: Huh. This means Mafia is really banking on making us think Trfel/Palmar's claim is false. Why do you think so? | ||
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On September 01 2015 07:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: If they lynch Trfel or Palmar it's a dead giveaway as to their alignment and they can't afford to let that happen. Also, the lynch against marv was probably a ploy to demonstrate that he is indeed the cop and show us that his check was indeed real. This means they also want us to think that deconduo is green. Which leads me to just think of decon in a more suspicious light. Of course they might have anticipated my whole thought process and lynched marv on purpose to place more suspicion on decon. -shrugs- When we get there we get there. I'm happy to leave my vote on KSC for now. ##Vote: KelsierSC That's all nice and dandy but another reason could be that they did not know if marv was lying about being one-shot or not so shooting him over the masons is ALWAYS the better play unless they are afraid of a jailkeeper. They don't seem to be. Either because they know Palmar and Trfel are real and there shouldn't be any more blue roles or because they gambled that a possible JK would have been one-shot. | ||
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On September 01 2015 08:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Decondou is probably town. Marv would have had to check exactly the GF. It's far more likely that he's just inactive town (see: All the other town we lynched) You are forgetting a possible framer which makes it way more likely since we now know that deconduo would probably be the most inactive member of the team if he was mafia which means he was the best frame target. On September 01 2015 08:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: If Palmar was right on JAT, the only reason he's right is because he had extra information in that he knew JAT's early push was on a townie. What kind of extra information is that? That townies do not push townies? lol On September 01 2015 08:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: A world of VE, Vivax, and JAT honestly would not surprise me. That would mean all the mafia were pushing my lynch. And who else did push your lynch all game? Marv. On September 01 2015 09:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mafia are never going to put KP on you vivax. so if you're veteran or PGO idc plz claim. You're just going to get roleblocked anyway. We do not know if they have a rb and if we are lynching KSC anyways then there is no need to claim whatever he is if he is town. On September 01 2015 09:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: though I expect JAT would have wanted to vote me instead of hopeless Why? I was clearly having doubts about you being mafia or else I would not have pushed Palmar, don't you think? On September 01 2015 12:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Is there any world where there is a 1-shot cop, mason pair, and tracker or w.e. vivax is? Yes, there is. Marv was one-shot, maybe Vivax is too, Gaiden 1 was littered with blue roles because of that. | ||
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On September 01 2015 08:51 Vivax wrote: The reason the mason claim is even LESS believable is that I'm blue myself. I'm not going to say what I am specifically until the next night is over as well. For now they clearly preferred getting rid of marv even though I hinted that I was blue during the night. ##Vote: KSC I'll pay more attention to the game again after this guy is dead. Why did you hint at being blue at all during the night? If you are shot we know. If you aren't you can claim today. What's the point besides letting mafia in on it? On September 01 2015 09:48 Vivax wrote: And THE most ridiculous thing is that the lynch happened without any fucking logic whatsoever, people were literally going WTF on Palmar's post as his reason to vote hopeless AND then he became the majority wagon for some reason. That's masssive bogus stinking bullcrap and now that I think of that it makes Mr. CC and JAT look like mafia. They were both all over Palmar for his hopeless vote but then voted the same guy regardless. CC at least can argue he had to save himself but for JAT I see no other justification. The mason claim makes Palmar extremely likely town in that situation so whatever bogus he said is completely irrelevant. | ||
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The masons need to survive 2 (!) nights until LYLO. That is awesome. If they manage to lynch 2 mafia before that they even become CONFIRMED. The absolute WORST play we could do right now is lynch into them unless we have really strong reason to disbelieve them which I do not see at all. We will NOT lynch Palmar or Trfel before LYLO. If they are real it is their duty to lynch scum or get shot before that. | ||
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On September 01 2015 18:40 KelsierSC wrote: the mason claim a the end was pretty weird, i assumed they were masoned from pretty early D1 but palmar stating they weren't and trefl then claiming right at the end they were. I don't really know what to make of that I don't like moosy I think his inconsistent game could actually be scum rather than inconsistent town. I agree that moosy has fallen off a lot. The mason inconsistency can be easily explained by Palmar being his usual self i.e. a dick. | ||
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