• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:06
CEST 11:06
KST 18:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins0[$1250] International ShieldBattery League36Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War1405.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Stellar Fest 2 Replay Pack
Tourneys
WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? Bot on ladder Rollback Netcode in Brood War Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [Women's StarCraft] Tier 8 CK 2026-10-20 [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10032 users

TL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2 - Page 18

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 163 Next
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 26 2015 13:13 GMT
#341
On August 26 2015 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
honestly i don't know why jat's question was dumb.

Are you an accomplice?

possibly an accomplice in stupidity

i don't understand why someone would ask someone's opinion on a player after 2 posts totalling 4 words, and i don't understand why questioning this is the dumbest thing in the thread.

i'm sure i'm missing something super obvious

a) I've repeatedly and often bragged about being the one person who lynches you correctly on day 1 (it's true, mind you) so awaiting my opinion on you is to be expected.

b) Even if you find it unreasonable JAT is making it out to be something we should investigate Trfel on, which is complete bullshit. There is no way trfel is mafia because of this. If he is mafia, this is the last reason he is.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:15 GMT
#342
On August 26 2015 22:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
honestly i don't know why jat's question was dumb.

Are you an accomplice?

possibly an accomplice in stupidity

i don't understand why someone would ask someone's opinion on a player after 2 posts totalling 4 words, and i don't understand why questioning this is the dumbest thing in the thread.

i'm sure i'm missing something super obvious

a) I've repeatedly and often bragged about being the one person who lynches you correctly on day 1 (it's true, mind you) so awaiting my opinion on you is to be expected.

b) Even if you find it unreasonable JAT is making it out to be something we should investigate Trfel on, which is complete bullshit. There is no way trfel is mafia because of this. If he is mafia, this is the last reason he is.

yes but a) still doesn't explain in any way why he's asking your opinion when i've written 4 words.

b), due to a) it makes b) kinda weird, so i don't think it's totally dumb.

but meh, i'm very not-interested in turning this into a quasi-defence of jat
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:15 GMT
#343
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#344
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#345
On August 26 2015 22:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
honestly i don't know why jat's question was dumb.

Are you an accomplice?

possibly an accomplice in stupidity

i don't understand why someone would ask someone's opinion on a player after 2 posts totalling 4 words, and i don't understand why questioning this is the dumbest thing in the thread.

i'm sure i'm missing something super obvious

a) I've repeatedly and often bragged about being the one person who lynches you correctly on day 1 (it's true, mind you) so awaiting my opinion on you is to be expected.

b) Even if you find it unreasonable JAT is making it out to be something we should investigate Trfel on, which is complete bullshit. There is no way trfel is mafia because of this. If he is mafia, this is the last reason he is.


:/

lol i wanted to see if truffle would answer this way but i don't see why he wouldn't so...palmar so sexy if he's scum i'd be super sad ;o;

-noms on granola popcorn-

kinda like cheesecake even though i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning lol...intelligent life
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#346
Palmar just thinks JAT is mafia because he think JAT has a poor read, or poor reasoning for Trfel to be mafia. That doesn't make jat mafia.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:18 GMT
#347
On August 26 2015 22:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar just thinks JAT is mafia because he think JAT has a poor read, or poor reasoning for Trfel to be mafia. That doesn't make jat mafia.


jat having nothing but a poor read on water vapor makes jat mafia

hi mafia!jat ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:18 GMT
#348
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:20 GMT
#349
On August 26 2015 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
kinda like cheesecake even though i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning lol...intelligent life

i don't, i think most of the reasoning is kinda superficial or wrong (VE stuff)

in addition he likes Palmar as town for liking rsoultin for different reasons than Mr CC liked rsoultin for town. I don't see at all how agreeing on a mutual townread makes someone else town, and even less so when the reasons are different.

Palmar's given reasons were the WoS/VE commentary and more specifically the jat "catch", not mentioned at all by CC

personally i am more suspicious of people who townread people for different reasons than i do (for a kinda related example, see how i questioned palmar on rsoultin even though i was somewhat on the townside for rsoultin at the time)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 26 2015 13:20 GMT
#350
Fall in line sheeple
Computer says mafia
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:21 GMT
#351
@Kelsier do you have any reads other than just moosy/bf
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 26 2015 13:21 GMT
#352
On August 26 2015 22:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@Kelsier do you have any reads other than just moosy/bf

I like his reads.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#353
On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.


no it means the reason for your townread is bad, and if the reason for your townread is bad and there are reasons to think he's mafia you shouldn't be an rsoul and wait until the night before lylo to go oh shit i'm a numbnuts and now the guy who always wants to lynch me in lylo has to be convinced i'm just a numbnuts and not mafia and we should lynch the guy i was derping on @.@

tldr

is that the best you've got to think jat is town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#354
I didn't actually read why palmar townread rsoultin I just saw that he said "Rsoultin is 2% mafia" and agreed :p
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#355
On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.


Jat is in no way townie in his response. Also he seems to have forgotten I may be mafia
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#356
On August 26 2015 22:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I didn't actually read why palmar townread rsoultin I just saw that he said "Rsoultin is 2% mafia" and agreed :p

so getting a pretty decent townread from you is as easy as calling someone town that you think is town??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 26 2015 13:23 GMT
#357
On August 26 2015 22:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.


no it means the reason for your townread is bad, and if the reason for your townread is bad and there are reasons to think he's mafia you shouldn't be an rsoul and wait until the night before lylo to go oh shit i'm a numbnuts and now the guy who always wants to lynch me in lylo has to be convinced i'm just a numbnuts and not mafia and we should lynch the guy i was derping on @.@

tldr

is that the best you've got to think jat is town?


Preach sis
Computer says mafia
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 26 2015 13:23 GMT
#358
So are we lynching JAT or wat.

^ puns.

Cheesecake is probs town.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:23 GMT
#359
for the uninitiated, Mr CC is kinda known for being much more coherent and together as mafia than he is as town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:24 GMT
#360
On August 26 2015 22:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
kinda like cheesecake even though i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning lol...intelligent life

i don't, i think most of the reasoning is kinda superficial or wrong (VE stuff)

in addition he likes Palmar as town for liking rsoultin for different reasons than Mr CC liked rsoultin for town. I don't see at all how agreeing on a mutual townread makes someone else town, and even less so when the reasons are different.

Palmar's given reasons were the WoS/VE commentary and more specifically the jat "catch", not mentioned at all by CC

personally i am more suspicious of people who townread people for different reasons than i do (for a kinda related example, see how i questioned palmar on rsoultin even though i was somewhat on the townside for rsoultin at the time)


tis fair

the moosy read is mostly why i liked it cause it was an awful reason (that i happen to agree with for awful reasons) but he knew it was and was like fuck it, i think this shit anyway

in general...i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning or his reads, but the moosy one makes me think town and the willingness to dive right in is tonally more townie as well

i'm not really married to this read, though lol it was just my gut reaction
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 163 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2529
Larva 264
Hyuk 233
EffOrt 177
Zeus 149
Soma 143
ZergMaN 117
Killer 106
Dewaltoss 97
Leta 83
[ Show more ]
Noble 39
Bale 31
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
Fuzer 93
League of Legends
JimRising 432
Counter-Strike
kennyS941
olofmeister885
allub328
byalli294
Other Games
summit1g6813
singsing799
Sick269
crisheroes137
dupreeh92
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick525
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH334
• LUISG 13
• killerbeecast4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2315
League of Legends
• Stunt641
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1h 54m
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Solar
PiGosaur Cup
14h 54m
The PondCast
1d
Kung Fu Cup
1d 1h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Reynor vs Zoun
Neeb vs Rogue
FEL
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
FEL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.