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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 26 2015 13:13 GMT
#341
On August 26 2015 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
honestly i don't know why jat's question was dumb.

Are you an accomplice?

possibly an accomplice in stupidity

i don't understand why someone would ask someone's opinion on a player after 2 posts totalling 4 words, and i don't understand why questioning this is the dumbest thing in the thread.

i'm sure i'm missing something super obvious

a) I've repeatedly and often bragged about being the one person who lynches you correctly on day 1 (it's true, mind you) so awaiting my opinion on you is to be expected.

b) Even if you find it unreasonable JAT is making it out to be something we should investigate Trfel on, which is complete bullshit. There is no way trfel is mafia because of this. If he is mafia, this is the last reason he is.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:15 GMT
#342
On August 26 2015 22:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
honestly i don't know why jat's question was dumb.

Are you an accomplice?

possibly an accomplice in stupidity

i don't understand why someone would ask someone's opinion on a player after 2 posts totalling 4 words, and i don't understand why questioning this is the dumbest thing in the thread.

i'm sure i'm missing something super obvious

a) I've repeatedly and often bragged about being the one person who lynches you correctly on day 1 (it's true, mind you) so awaiting my opinion on you is to be expected.

b) Even if you find it unreasonable JAT is making it out to be something we should investigate Trfel on, which is complete bullshit. There is no way trfel is mafia because of this. If he is mafia, this is the last reason he is.

yes but a) still doesn't explain in any way why he's asking your opinion when i've written 4 words.

b), due to a) it makes b) kinda weird, so i don't think it's totally dumb.

but meh, i'm very not-interested in turning this into a quasi-defence of jat
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:15 GMT
#343
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#344
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#345
On August 26 2015 22:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:09 Palmar wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
honestly i don't know why jat's question was dumb.

Are you an accomplice?

possibly an accomplice in stupidity

i don't understand why someone would ask someone's opinion on a player after 2 posts totalling 4 words, and i don't understand why questioning this is the dumbest thing in the thread.

i'm sure i'm missing something super obvious

a) I've repeatedly and often bragged about being the one person who lynches you correctly on day 1 (it's true, mind you) so awaiting my opinion on you is to be expected.

b) Even if you find it unreasonable JAT is making it out to be something we should investigate Trfel on, which is complete bullshit. There is no way trfel is mafia because of this. If he is mafia, this is the last reason he is.


:/

lol i wanted to see if truffle would answer this way but i don't see why he wouldn't so...palmar so sexy if he's scum i'd be super sad ;o;

-noms on granola popcorn-

kinda like cheesecake even though i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning lol...intelligent life
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#346
Palmar just thinks JAT is mafia because he think JAT has a poor read, or poor reasoning for Trfel to be mafia. That doesn't make jat mafia.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:18 GMT
#347
On August 26 2015 22:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar just thinks JAT is mafia because he think JAT has a poor read, or poor reasoning for Trfel to be mafia. That doesn't make jat mafia.


jat having nothing but a poor read on water vapor makes jat mafia

hi mafia!jat ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:18 GMT
#348
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:20 GMT
#349
On August 26 2015 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
kinda like cheesecake even though i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning lol...intelligent life

i don't, i think most of the reasoning is kinda superficial or wrong (VE stuff)

in addition he likes Palmar as town for liking rsoultin for different reasons than Mr CC liked rsoultin for town. I don't see at all how agreeing on a mutual townread makes someone else town, and even less so when the reasons are different.

Palmar's given reasons were the WoS/VE commentary and more specifically the jat "catch", not mentioned at all by CC

personally i am more suspicious of people who townread people for different reasons than i do (for a kinda related example, see how i questioned palmar on rsoultin even though i was somewhat on the townside for rsoultin at the time)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 26 2015 13:20 GMT
#350
Fall in line sheeple
Computer says mafia
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:21 GMT
#351
@Kelsier do you have any reads other than just moosy/bf
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 26 2015 13:21 GMT
#352
On August 26 2015 22:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@Kelsier do you have any reads other than just moosy/bf

I like his reads.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#353
On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.


no it means the reason for your townread is bad, and if the reason for your townread is bad and there are reasons to think he's mafia you shouldn't be an rsoul and wait until the night before lylo to go oh shit i'm a numbnuts and now the guy who always wants to lynch me in lylo has to be convinced i'm just a numbnuts and not mafia and we should lynch the guy i was derping on @.@

tldr

is that the best you've got to think jat is town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#354
I didn't actually read why palmar townread rsoultin I just saw that he said "Rsoultin is 2% mafia" and agreed :p
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#355
On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.


Jat is in no way townie in his response. Also he seems to have forgotten I may be mafia
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#356
On August 26 2015 22:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I didn't actually read why palmar townread rsoultin I just saw that he said "Rsoultin is 2% mafia" and agreed :p

so getting a pretty decent townread from you is as easy as calling someone town that you think is town??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 26 2015 13:23 GMT
#357
On August 26 2015 22:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.


no it means the reason for your townread is bad, and if the reason for your townread is bad and there are reasons to think he's mafia you shouldn't be an rsoul and wait until the night before lylo to go oh shit i'm a numbnuts and now the guy who always wants to lynch me in lylo has to be convinced i'm just a numbnuts and not mafia and we should lynch the guy i was derping on @.@

tldr

is that the best you've got to think jat is town?


Preach sis
Computer says mafia
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 26 2015 13:23 GMT
#358
So are we lynching JAT or wat.

^ puns.

Cheesecake is probs town.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 13:23 GMT
#359
for the uninitiated, Mr CC is kinda known for being much more coherent and together as mafia than he is as town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 13:24 GMT
#360
On August 26 2015 22:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
kinda like cheesecake even though i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning lol...intelligent life

i don't, i think most of the reasoning is kinda superficial or wrong (VE stuff)

in addition he likes Palmar as town for liking rsoultin for different reasons than Mr CC liked rsoultin for town. I don't see at all how agreeing on a mutual townread makes someone else town, and even less so when the reasons are different.

Palmar's given reasons were the WoS/VE commentary and more specifically the jat "catch", not mentioned at all by CC

personally i am more suspicious of people who townread people for different reasons than i do (for a kinda related example, see how i questioned palmar on rsoultin even though i was somewhat on the townside for rsoultin at the time)


tis fair

the moosy read is mostly why i liked it cause it was an awful reason (that i happen to agree with for awful reasons) but he knew it was and was like fuck it, i think this shit anyway

in general...i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning or his reads, but the moosy one makes me think town and the willingness to dive right in is tonally more townie as well

i'm not really married to this read, though lol it was just my gut reaction
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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