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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 30 2015 22:12 GMT
#2721
On August 31 2015 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Palmar, did I do something to annoy you? Are you holding a grudge against me?

No I'm just having a bit of fun with these boys.
Computer says mafia
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2015 22:12 GMT
#2722
On August 31 2015 07:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On second thought, I think I quit this game.

KelsierSC is likely mafia, which is nice because I've been suspicious of him for a while. Despite no one wanting to talk to me about him.

Palmar is still town, which is nice because I've been townreading him for the entire game.

Hopeless1der flipped town, which shows that my (eventual) townread on him was good. I thought it was good, but no one wanted to talk about him, so whatever.

Still unsure about Mr. Cheesecake, but his emotions (as Palmar pointed out) seem quite towny. He really does seem invested in the game.

Still think that deconduo is likely mafia, even though no one else wants to talk about him. Though this is sort of understandable, for now, anyway.

Still think that Vivax could be mafia, despite no one wanting to talk about him.

You guys can thank me post-game. I've already had a few controversial townreads confirmed to be correct. If you really want to ignore everything I'm saying, I can't stop you.


missed that decondou is conf. town via marv cop
No, I didn't miss it. There is potential godfather and potential framer, or marvellosity could be lying (unlikely, but still). I'm confident enough in my deconduo read to consider lynching him despite a green check.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2015 22:13 GMT
#2723
On August 31 2015 07:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Palmar, did I do something to annoy you? Are you holding a grudge against me?

No I'm just having a bit of fun with these boys.
Fair enough, I guess.... whatever....
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 30 2015 22:27 GMT
#2724
On August 31 2015 07:12 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 07:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 31 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On second thought, I think I quit this game.

KelsierSC is likely mafia, which is nice because I've been suspicious of him for a while. Despite no one wanting to talk to me about him.

Palmar is still town, which is nice because I've been townreading him for the entire game.

Hopeless1der flipped town, which shows that my (eventual) townread on him was good. I thought it was good, but no one wanted to talk about him, so whatever.

Still unsure about Mr. Cheesecake, but his emotions (as Palmar pointed out) seem quite towny. He really does seem invested in the game.

Still think that deconduo is likely mafia, even though no one else wants to talk about him. Though this is sort of understandable, for now, anyway.

Still think that Vivax could be mafia, despite no one wanting to talk about him.

You guys can thank me post-game. I've already had a few controversial townreads confirmed to be correct. If you really want to ignore everything I'm saying, I can't stop you.


missed that decondou is conf. town via marv cop
No, I didn't miss it. There is potential godfather and potential framer, or marvellosity could be lying (unlikely, but still). I'm confident enough in my deconduo read to consider lynching him despite a green check.

Well, too bad you just made it so you will be lynched ages before him. Good job. And then you have the audacity to say we can thank you post game.

You better be mafia.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 30 2015 22:55 GMT
#2725
Trfel this is what I don't understand. Why would you act so desperately and go so out of your way to protect Palmar when he's not even doing anything right now? Instead you can earn town credit and have people listen to your reads after Palmar's potential lynch.

Instead now I'm doubting you because you seemed so desperate to protect Palmar for no reason. I just don't understand...
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 30 2015 22:56 GMT
#2726
Omg sry, something pulled me away.

Okay so Hopeless was town. Palmar and Trfel are NOT masons. Kelsier mafia. Anything else?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 30 2015 23:02 GMT
#2727
On August 31 2015 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Omg sry, something pulled me away.

Okay so Hopeless was town. Palmar and Trfel are NOT masons. Kelsier mafia. Anything else?

Mr. CC is probs town looking at his reaction. That or he's very good at acting.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 30 2015 23:37 GMT
#2728
On August 31 2015 08:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Omg sry, something pulled me away.

Okay so Hopeless was town. Palmar and Trfel are NOT masons. Kelsier mafia. Anything else?

Mr. CC is probs town looking at his reaction. That or he's very good at acting.

I agree with this observation.
Computer says mafia
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 00:02 GMT
#2729
As for the events surrounding End of Day, I have nothing to say. Don't bother asking me about them.

If anyone would like to discuss anything else with me, please ask. I'll be reading from page 126.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 00:10 GMT
#2730
On August 30 2015 23:48 Vivax wrote:
The post from VE that hopeless brought up needs an answer from Trfel, I can't find any looking through his filter.
Good to know you're blind, I already stated that I was filter diving everyone. I read VisceraEyes' filter and arrived at a conclusion different from my earlier toneread.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 31 2015 00:12 GMT
#2731
On August 31 2015 09:02 Trfel wrote:
As for the events surrounding End of Day, I have nothing to say. Don't bother asking me about them.

If anyone would like to discuss anything else with me, please ask. I'll be reading from page 126.

Wow ok. This makes me think that you were aiming for the "too scummy so he's town" or the "too idgaf so he's town" attempt. If you were remotely interested in explaining why you were so absolutely convinced that lynching Palmar was a bad idea then that would be helpful.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 00:17 GMT
#2732
On August 31 2015 09:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 09:02 Trfel wrote:
As for the events surrounding End of Day, I have nothing to say. Don't bother asking me about them.

If anyone would like to discuss anything else with me, please ask. I'll be reading from page 126.

Wow ok. This makes me think that you were aiming for the "too scummy so he's town" or the "too idgaf so he's town" attempt. If you were remotely interested in explaining why you were so absolutely convinced that lynching Palmar was a bad idea then that would be helpful.
Because I know he's town.

Look, I want to work with you. I'm probably getting lynched anyway. When I flip town, this way you can actually work with me and maybe we can make some progress on solving the game for LYLO. Were I mafia, you have two free mafia (me and KelsierSC) so it's okay if you waste a day assuming I'm town before you lynch me.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 00:22 GMT
#2733
On August 31 2015 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Trfel, the posts below confuse me a little:

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote:
Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred.

Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying.

Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia.

I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred.

Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first?


Confident that Hopeless is mafia.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote:
How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.


Wait no he's actually town.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 16:33 Trfel wrote:
Because I'm not sure it's clear where I stand on everyone after all of this. "Standard" format this time, most town to most scum.

marvellosity
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
justanothertownie
Mr. Cheesecake
VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der
KelsierSC
deconduo (and yes, I know about the green check)
Vivax


Nope, back down in the scummy side again.


Given that hopeless had posted almost nothing in between these posts, what has made you change your mind so much on him?
Bottom side of a reads post doesn't mean scummy. Hopeless1der still had a slight town lean.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 00:26 GMT
#2734
Vivax and justanothertownie, my wagon analysis on Mr. Cheesecake is valid because if mafia wants to bus Mr. Cheesecake, they probably want to vote for him. Or at least make it clear that they actually want to lynch him. Simply not caring and letting it happen isn't an effective way to bus someone.

This argument combined with the fact that Mr. Cheesecake was still putting a ton of effort into the game makes the wagon analysis strong.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 31 2015 01:55 GMT
#2735
Nice lynch guise :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 02:34 GMT
#2736
On August 31 2015 06:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 31 2015 06:04 Vivax wrote:
Shenannies time?

Who do you want to kill then?


I don't know, I just know that it ends up in terrible lynches when half the town is afk. I have like a feeling of impending doom cause it's only us making the decision now and there's almost no feedback, which IS indicative that the wagon could be on town.

I feel like yolo voting Palmar.
Wait a second... so my argument that the state of the wagon on Mr. Cheesecake suggests that Mr. Cheesecake is town is terrible, and it's suspicious that Mr. Cheesecake agreed with this argument, however you want to lynch Palmar because the fact that no one is talking suggests that the wagon could be on town!??!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 02:44 GMT
#2737
On August 31 2015 06:58 Vivax wrote:
Modconfirmed my ass he THINKS you're town, he doesn't KNOW you're town, plus I see zero evidence of any logs or background conversation.

If we let you get away with this and you're mafia we lose the game, we need to lynch Palmar to get rid of any doubt now given the many inconsistencies.
So my mason claim is definitely false, but I'm not definitely mafia? The first paragraph reads like I'm mafia, the last paragraph reads like I'm town.

What?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 02:54 GMT
#2738
BEFORE YOU RESPOND:
Imagine that Palmar and I are both confirmed town. I don't care to talk to anyone who doesn't (at least temporarily) assume that we are both confirmed town at this time.



Okay, Vivax did nothing and End of Day to suggest that he's town. He "led" town by not really doing much and asking for a "yolo lynch" on Palmar, after it seemed clear that Mr. Cheesecake wasn't going to be lynched.

He never responded to my earlier case on him, which is still valid.

He shared many of the same thoughts that I had expressed earlier, yet still called my arguments stupid and wanted to lynch me. You would think that he would read my posts more carefully if he were actually town and scumreading me.

I don't see Vivax leading the thread here, I see Vivax being lazy and casually encouraging mislynches (notice how he waited for justanothertownie's response before voting Palmar) without critically reading or trying to solve the game.

Mafia team is Vivax, KelsierSC, and deconduo. If that is wrong, next two most likely are justanothertownie and VisceraEyes.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 31 2015 02:57 GMT
#2739
Marvellosity....

Please save me.

Please?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 31 2015 03:13 GMT
#2740
Trfel you're hurting my head. Why in the world is Palmar confirmed town? Why are you so ironclad on this fact?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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