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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 30 2015 16:16 GMT
#2541
On August 31 2015 01:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Vivax why did you drop your suspicion on Trfel earlier?


You mean on EoD 1? Cause BF ninjavoted and moved up the priority list. I was also entertaining the thought that Trfel and Palmar might be masons cause of their strange reads on each other (Palmar calling trfel town hero and 95 % town when it didn't make sense to me), but only asked about it on D2 for obvious reasons.

Now that Palmar said that they aren't, I'm not believing him if he says something else. Enough time has passed and if they're indeed both mafia then you can roll with the assumption that it can be a fakeclaim if he starts saying the opposite, even if risky, and Palmar doesn't mind risky plays (read guardians of the galaxy).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 30 2015 16:18 GMT
#2542
Trfel why are you still so sure that Palmar is town, your townread CC thinks the opposite.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 30 2015 16:23 GMT
#2543
On August 31 2015 01:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar clearly doesnt care about who gets lynched. Just look at yesterday.

So who do you actually want to kill. Vivax or Palmar? You look like you're flip flopping needlessly.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 30 2015 16:23 GMT
#2544
Vivax, do you think Palmar is town?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 30 2015 16:29 GMT
#2545
On August 31 2015 01:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Vivax, do you think Palmar is town?


I've already said that I don't.

CC you will have to explain to me why you vote for me right after Trfel offers you a lifebelt in form of a case on me and a defense of you but when I'm around you start pushing suspicion on Palmar and Kelsier and even say that you think Kelsier is more likely scum when I'm entertaining that notion myself. Seems kinda contradictory to your intentions.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2015 16:30 GMT
#2546
Heres where im at. Vivax is actually attempting to figure out the game atm and thats more than 50 percent of the thread. So he's town but just pushed me for a bad reason.

Trfel is probably town because his complaining about doing a bunch of a work and not having and responses to it feels genuinely town frustration.

Palmar is scum because of his relative disinterest in the game. His contributions to the game arent what id expect from a town palmar. His push on JAT was pretty bad and his refusal to reevaluate the game after a day 1 mislynch and just call people mafia is infuriating, and shows no actual game solving attempt.

Kels is scum because of his tentative day 1 list of reads which is horribly unspecific, especially the townlist part. Hes been buddying me all of day 1. His push onto wave can easily be a scum sheeping town on town pressure. He gave very thin reasons for.me being town. He hasnt reevaluated the game at all today just like Palmar.

One of the other scum is probably either hopeless or someone more active like ve or vivax but they are playing pretty good.

Moosy prolly town for day 1 claim of VT. I did the same thing he did when i looked at my role PM and i townread him cus i thought i was an investigator or cop too. Im not a role btw so domt expect a weird medic claim at eod. His flip flop read on me was never xplained.amd he would care.more about his image as mafia.

Jat prolly town or something makes sense if palmsy is mafia.

IM TOWN. THESE ARE MY READS. TAKE THEM AND LIVE MY LEGACY.

Also vivax if ur town you should have waited longer to see if my palmar read developed before pushing me on it. It was like not even a day in gmae after my then palmar is mafia post.

Also vote switching to Palmar.

But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2015 16:30 GMT
#2547
On August 31 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 01:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Vivax, do you think Palmar is town?


I've already said that I don't.

CC you will have to explain to me why you vote for me right after Trfel offers you a lifebelt in form of a case on me and a defense of you but when I'm around you start pushing suspicion on Palmar and Kelsier and even say that you think Kelsier is more likely scum when I'm entertaining that notion myself. Seems kinda contradictory to your intentions.


I voted you WAY befre trfel. Get the facts straight
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 30 2015 16:31 GMT
#2548
Okay, so you're saying Vivax was clear enough Mafia to vote for him then say that he's town right now because he's posting?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2015 16:33 GMT
#2549
Vivax you are tunneling and its causing you to not analyze the game. I voted for you 7 hours before trfel did. My vote had nothing to do woth him. If you are mafia keep pressuring though.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2015 16:34 GMT
#2550
I dont know who's mafia dude. I am constantly reevaluating the game.because im town
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 30 2015 16:34 GMT
#2551
On August 31 2015 01:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Vivax you are tunneling and its causing you to not analyze the game. I voted for you 7 hours before trfel did. My vote had nothing to do woth him. If you are mafia keep pressuring though.

? So where exactly do you stand on Vivax lol. So you're saying he's Mafia here again?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2015 16:36 GMT
#2552
Im all over the place as town. That meta.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2015 16:38 GMT
#2553
Im all over the place as town. Especially when people are being dumb about my alignment.That meta.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 30 2015 16:38 GMT
#2554
I confused that then, anyway will be back in an hour
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2015 16:39 GMT
#2555
Im out
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 16:50 GMT
#2556
I'm on the train for the next 3 hours, and I have wifi. Who is around?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 30 2015 17:10 GMT
#2557
@Trfel, the posts below confuse me a little:

On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote:
Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred.

Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying.

Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia.

I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred.

Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first?


Confident that Hopeless is mafia.

On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote:
How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.


Wait no he's actually town.

On August 30 2015 16:33 Trfel wrote:
Because I'm not sure it's clear where I stand on everyone after all of this. "Standard" format this time, most town to most scum.

marvellosity
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
justanothertownie
Mr. Cheesecake
VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der
KelsierSC
deconduo (and yes, I know about the green check)
Vivax


Nope, back down in the scummy side again.


Given that hopeless had posted almost nothing in between these posts, what has made you change your mind so much on him?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
August 30 2015 17:38 GMT
#2558
On August 31 2015 01:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Mafia arent interested in lynching me because town (marv) has already made up his mind.

And i never agreed with all of trfels logic. I agreed mainly with that scum are just sitting back and letting the lynch happen without proposing alternate candidates.

Wasn't Trfels logic that you had to be town because scum isn't trying to save you? Because that is retarded considering you both think most of the people on your wagon are most likely town. If town marv and town jat are pushing your lynch it is not very likely for mafia to save you if you are also scum so they will either bus you or waffle on you in case we change our minds.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
August 30 2015 17:39 GMT
#2559
Unless Trfel himself is the mafia defending you which is possible regardless of your alignment.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 30 2015 17:52 GMT
#2560
On August 31 2015 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Trfel, the posts below confuse me a little:

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 06:53 Trfel wrote:
Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred.

Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying.

Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia.

I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred.

Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first?


Confident that Hopeless is mafia.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote:
How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.


Wait no he's actually town.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 16:33 Trfel wrote:
Because I'm not sure it's clear where I stand on everyone after all of this. "Standard" format this time, most town to most scum.

marvellosity
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
justanothertownie
Mr. Cheesecake
VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der
KelsierSC
deconduo (and yes, I know about the green check)
Vivax


Nope, back down in the scummy side again.


Given that hopeless had posted almost nothing in between these posts, what has made you change your mind so much on him?

I find it especially strange that I'm towner than Marv green check
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