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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:24 GMT
#2461
On August 30 2015 04:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 04:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 30 2015 04:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 30 2015 04:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 30 2015 04:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 30 2015 04:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I like how hopeless doesn't mention me in his post. What are your thoughts on me?

I skipped ve and Jat too. I think that is everyone. You're town moosy, jats town ish, ve is null.

I want to lynch you too.

Is that "too" in agreement with someone or in addition to wanting to lynch CC?

both

"Are you scum or town?
->"Yes."
.....
So who are you agreeing with moosy? Why do you agree and would you rather lynch me or CC? Why one over the other?

tbh it's mostly about how long you're kept alive. you haven't done much, you haven't found anything, all you've done is sheeped cases and regurgitated thread sentiment reads, and im scared as hell about keeping you around for the later game because i sincerely doubt that you'd do anything.

that said, i do think that town is in a bad spot right now, and we really need to spend this lynch wisely. so the answer isn't to just lynch an afker like u, but to think about our lynch options and choose wisely. not to mention i have a weird twitch in mr. cc's direction which i only get when i read ruxxar.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:27 GMT
#2462
actually yeah, ruxxar may be mr. cc 2.0 or something
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:28 GMT
#2463
On August 30 2015 04:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so if marv's claim is true (I have no reason to doubt it unless there's some sort of other claim, and even then...) then that just basically makes the game a little easier FMP. I was doubting decon late yesterday, especially coming in and calling me town super late yesterday for making posts he agreed with without really saying which ones. With him clear I'm looking at lynching outside of:

VE
marv...\
decon./
JAT
Moosy

I promised I'd make an effort to reevaluate Palmar and Trfel, so I'm going to add them to the no-lynch list today as well as I accommodate that. Leaving us lynching into this pool (again, from my perspective):

Vivax
KelsierSC
Mr. Cheesecake
Hopeless1der

In spite of me reevaluating Palmar/Trfel, Vivax seems to have been having many of the same thoughts as me over the course of the game, or at the very least coming to some of the same conclusions, so I'll state up front that I want to lynch him the least.

Cheesecake is an anomoly. I really badly want to townread Cheesecake, but my guts tell me that's a bad thing. Well, my guts, my personal experience with him and marv twittering in my ear stating the same thing. Generally speaking it would make me a little suspicious, marv using this heuristic, but given that it's Cheese and given that marv has claimed cop, I have to at least factor in that I think that AS TOWN, marv thinks Cheese is suspicious for sounding townie. Further, Cheese seems to KNOW I'm town in his posting, from how he "understands why VE would find" him suspicious to how his formatting seems to mimic JAT, someone VE has hard townread, it all feels like a direct appeal to someone who is familiar with his meta. Or maybe that's just my ego. At any rate, Cheese is one I'd be interested in lynching today.

Kelsier is hard for me to read in general. I'm pretty sure I've always had a hard time reading him, and that trend continues this game. But again, he seems to share my thought process on some important reads, and he seems to openly disagree with others, so for now I'm throwing him in the town pile.

As I said earlier, Hopeless felt scummy yesterday to me, more so than boxerfred. I would have preferred a Hopeless lynch yesterday, and here we are today, Hopeless still alive and barely posting. The only thing that gives me pause is how many people seem to be just fine with a Hopeless lynch. But honestly the votes don't actually reflect that so maybe I'm just imagining things. I'm still fine with a Hopeless lynch today.

With that I'm going to go ahead and throw my weight behind the Cheesecake lynch but I'm conflicted because, a) because I like marv and JAT but b) the people openly stating they're okay with a Hopeless lynch are the ones piddle-dicking around and not voting, which makes me think that vote is better in general. I'd like to hear marv and JAT's thoughts on the matter in particular, but everyone is welcome to give input.

tbh, both kels and vivax are too hard to read this early which is why lynching into them is too risky. i would do it if there was harder evidence but there isn't. :/ unfortunately, wat marv says leaves us with hopeless/mr. cc.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 29 2015 19:29 GMT
#2464
You said you were in agreement with someone. Who was/were that someone (s)?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:31 GMT
#2465
On August 30 2015 04:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
You said you were in agreement with someone. Who was/were that someone (s)?

i never said that i was in agreement with someone specific. im just saying that i agree with thread sentiment in that ur play is either terrible or mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:31 GMT
#2466
wait VE u forgot about trfel, weren't u going hard on him earlier?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 29 2015 19:34 GMT
#2467
On August 30 2015 04:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 04:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
You said you were in agreement with someone. Who was/were that someone (s)?

i never said that i was in agreement with someone specific. im just saying that i agree with thread sentiment in that ur play is either terrible or mafia.

And the part where I asked who you would rather lynch between CC and me? Can you read, then answer a question properly or not at all? Instead of giving half sarcastic answers like "both" and confusing people with bullshit like I didn't agree with anyone in particular. I want connections to people and why, not "the thread said so"
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:35 GMT
#2468
On August 30 2015 04:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 04:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 30 2015 04:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
You said you were in agreement with someone. Who was/were that someone (s)?

i never said that i was in agreement with someone specific. im just saying that i agree with thread sentiment in that ur play is either terrible or mafia.

And the part where I asked who you would rather lynch between CC and me? Can you read, then answer a question properly or not at all? Instead of giving half sarcastic answers like "both" and confusing people with bullshit like I didn't agree with anyone in particular. I want connections to people and why, not "the thread said so"

i said both not in a sarcastic manner but to answer ur question. and i did answer ur question but ur just not reading properly.

i do want to lynch both u and mr. cc and because of what other people have said. wat about that do u not understand??
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:39 GMT
#2469
but to be specific, my townreads in general (jat, marv, viscera) think ur behavior was rather scummy (esp when u said u wanted to lynch boxerfred for reason, but it was literally just to save urself), although they do read u scummy to various degrees.

however, between u and mr. cc is a problem because town is in a bad spot which is why we shouldn't use palmar's reasoning of just lynching afkers aka u. instead we have to actually use our lynch which is why i think mr. cc lynch is good idea. which is why im torn because i don't want to keep you around for endgame since u don't do anything but i have gut feels about mr. cc??

lol i understand wat rsoul says when she says people don't read her posts.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:40 GMT
#2470
but right now i just want answer from VisceraEyes:

On August 30 2015 04:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
wait VE u forgot about trfel, weren't u going hard on him earlier?

"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2015 19:41 GMT
#2471
How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2015 19:42 GMT
#2472
On August 30 2015 04:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
I promised I'd make an effort to reevaluate Palmar and Trfel, so I'm going to add them to the no-lynch list today as well as I accommodate that.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 19:43 GMT
#2473
On August 30 2015 04:42 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 04:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
I promised I'd make an effort to reevaluate Palmar and Trfel, so I'm going to add them to the no-lynch list today as well as I accommodate that.

ah ok thnk u i cannot read then.

ur thoughts on mr. cc?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 29 2015 19:56 GMT
#2474
On August 30 2015 04:41 Trfel wrote:
How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.


What made you change your mind on him?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 29 2015 22:25 GMT
#2475
The paranoia of the scumcake is setting in full force. You guys are going to need better accusations than unspecific gutreads and the whole too townie to be town thing, juxtaposed with slight incoherence in my reads. I'm confirmed town by the fact that everyone in the game has wanted to lynch me for bad reasons except for Kelsier, although by his most recent post you can tell he is going to vote me despite having townread me for the entire game.

Lynching Hopeless probably just leads to him being town because he's bad (aka BF lynch), and then we are even further behind in this game. If hopeless is mafia we likely need to lynch outside of him.

Palmar is playing outstandingly terrible and should be lynched before this game is over.

Kelsier might be mafia attempting to pocket me this entire game, or the only relatively sane townie in this game. His favoritism towards me makes it hard to read him. If I flip I sincerely hope people will reevaluate his intentions.

Of all the people that pushed on me (re: entire game), I think Vivax comes off looking the scummiest. His post about my Palmar read early in the day felt forced to post and it was very lame. I've been posting tons of content for people to read and he nitpicks about one of my reads that hasn't developed.

VE is yet another person who has sheeped the bad scumread on me, despite having me in his townlean circle last night and listing 4 other people as mafia. Somehow, I've become his number 1 scumread today for something I did earlier on day 1, BEFORE his reads post.

Moosy's gutread on me is still outstanding and bad, but tbh that probably just makes him town because he never even tried to justify it meaningfully, where mafia would at least come up with some excuse.

Trfel probably doesn't just say he thinks hopeless is town and we shouldn't lynch him as mafia. If hopeless is mafia, obviously that makes him look bad. If hopeless is town, then he should want to get him lynched.

so lynch into VE/vivax/palmar/kels
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 29 2015 22:25 GMT
#2476
Who's ruxxar?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 29 2015 22:39 GMT
#2477
I think Hopeless' biggest reason for wanting to lynch me is so his RNG vote day 1 will have been fulfilled, and if I'm mafia he will feel like coolest cat in thread. If this is true then Hopeless is certainly town lol
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 29 2015 22:44 GMT
#2478
A world with three scum between ve/vivax/palmsy/kels makes good sense too because I don't remember a decent amount of interaction between any of them other than some light shitposting between palmar and VE and palmar re: vivax.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 29 2015 22:50 GMT
#2479
A vig claim + shot makes this game so much easier >.>
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 29 2015 23:34 GMT
#2480
On August 30 2015 07:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Who's ruxxar?

A guy who makes little to no sense as town but seems rather astute when he pulls Mafia. He is also an Oprah with his town reads early on in this game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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