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On August 13 2015 23:07 VayneAuthority wrote: this player list is eons from gaiden, and another spammier player just dropped. should be fine Since when has kelsier been spammy? He's always been a mid-range guy activity-wise iirc. | ||
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On August 15 2015 05:03 Beneather wrote: /in Oh wow. | ||
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On August 17 2015 22:28 Half the Sky wrote: Actually I had a question, it just occurred to me. Do personality games have third parties? (or did they? on mobile, so searching is a pain...) iirc one of them did. | ||
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On August 19 2015 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright got my role. Somewhat disappointed because there is only one way I know how to act this person out and I'm not sure I want to do it lol Do eeeet. | ||
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On August 19 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote: I have items for different alignments and if I send the wrong item they die: ( hopefully DAMDRED picks right for,his friend geript Send me stuff. | ||
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On August 19 2015 08:35 Fidei86 wrote: I have no idea who you're doing Ritoky, but I wish I did. If I did, then I would probably be able to know if you were mafia or not, because that would feed into my Ritoky reading computer and would tell me for sure if you were mafia or not. As it is, I have several strong mafia and several strong town reads, despite there having been very little that actually happened this game, and that should be enough for you all to town read me. If you don't town read me, that means you're bad town players, and you should know better. Geript lol. | ||
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On August 19 2015 08:40 ruXxar wrote: Are you claiming scum? Friends of damdred are scum. I am vt. | ||
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On August 19 2015 09:24 VayneAuthority wrote: Hello dearies, I am here to solve the game x Marv. | ||
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On August 19 2015 09:17 KelsierSC wrote: i love how the game is to take the most cancerous aspect of a player and post only that repeatedly. I'd imagine the game will revert to a normal mafia game soonish. Probably tomorrow, when the novelty of being someone else wears off. | ||
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On August 19 2015 09:33 VayneAuthority wrote: I am your only hope, sweetie. I will vote whoever I damn please when I want to because you are all bad. Rofl. 2000% marv. | ||
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On August 19 2015 12:12 Breshke wrote: I don't think ritoky actually RNG'd fidel He probably did. | ||
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On August 19 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote: I don't think so given this explanation I at first thought this was really scummy because if he was town why the fuck does he make this bullshit crap reason up to explain his "RNG" and not just be like yeah i used random.org But it makes sense in a world where he is trying to be BH and trying to be idk the word long winded? and he couldn't remember the way/couldnt be bothered doing it the way BH does it. So he is either a fucking shitter or scum Not to say his following read on fidel is bad but I don't wanna talk about that until fidel has been around some more Bh makes longish arguments backing his rng lynches all the time. Totally normal. | ||
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On August 19 2015 12:50 Breshke wrote: Explain to me how given this formula (sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity ritoky can RNG a number between 1 and 21. When the "coefficient of the thread's stupidity" would have to be a number chosen by himself as he couldn't put fucking infinity into this becouse that wouldnt give him a number between 1 and 21. SO YES I AM SAYING HE LIED ABOUT HOW HE RNG'D OR HE SPECIFICALLY CHOSE FIDEL. Do i have a reason why he chose fidel? No. But from what he has said i don't see how he could have rng'd him. What do you fail to understand here Bh used the exact same algorithm or whatever in FF. | ||
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I think now's a bad time to say that I don't really read into BH's rng lynches ever. /shrug | ||
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On August 19 2015 14:33 Fecalfeast wrote: what does everyone think of the judge? His posts are already making me angry. | ||
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On August 19 2015 15:49 ruXxar wrote: He's done both as town and scum. When he claims scum he's always been scum though. I'm sorry, what? Since when? | ||
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Lol oops, I need caffeine before I can brain. | ||
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Rux seems sorta okay at a glance though, probably shouldn't vote him. | ||
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I changed my mind. 100% mafia | ||
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Dazzle me. Do something spectacular. | ||
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On August 20 2015 06:54 ruXxar wrote: All the trolls are out rejoicing thinking tonight is going to be a great lynch on me. ... WRONG. tonight we lynch scum. If you want to lynch scum, lynch obiwan. His blood runs red. All comments, no reads, no interest in solving the game. ##Unvote ##Vote obiwan I'm so happy with my vote on you. You have no idea. | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote: I especially like how you came to the conclusion that you should vote for me: Nice try scum boi. Good job taking two posts before I came to the conclusion that you were town, but then ignoring the ones where I actually came to some sort of conclusion and then flipped that read when you called me mafia for garbage reasons. | ||
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"Obi is mafia because he has no reads." Stellar. | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:05 The Shining wrote: tube what is this trap you speak of? and what's a shining? my vote is rng cuz its based off of ritokys rng. duh. i found my first scum. tubesock will u please rise? QUOTE]On August 19 2015 07:18 Tubesock wrote: If Damdred is Chezinu, then first to scum Damdred is mafia due Chezinu rule. Geript mafia. Rekt. QUOTE]On August 19 2015 07:20 Tubesock wrote: Unrekt. Carry on. [/QUOTE] came off that way too fast and then votes the rng guy i voted with ritoky. he's just looking for lynches that he can't be blamed for.[/QUOTE] I don't really understand this. Elaborate? | ||
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Really. :rolleyes: You'll have to do better than that. | ||
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I was excited to see someone I knew come back but I'm afraid he just wasted another slot again. :sadface: Don't even waste your breath on him. | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:30 Fidei86 wrote: I see no reason to town read any of the players I listed as lurkers - all have been simply spamming one-liners or otherwise not contributing. I'm sure that some will start contributing once the usual "omg spam/roleplay" phase of d1 comes to an end (which it seems to be), but I'm commenting on things as I see them now. I don't have a problem with you not reading the lurkers either way, because, frankly, it's mostly true. The fact of the matter is that there are way too many "scum leans" in your list. Narrow it down: who is scummier and why? | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:26 The Shining wrote: the epic quote fails make it hard to know o.o if ur asking about tube going for easy votes, he uses chezinu rule to scum geript and all geript says is "it only works if the person scumming geript doesn't know chezinu" so he immediately backs off. where's the proof? im not even familiar with the chezinu rule. but chezinus my boy so its all good. then he jumps on the fidei wagon and says he's not reading. there was a lot of effort in that read. and he stated the only real rng vote on fidei was ritokys. I disproved that with my flawless logicx. no scumhunting here, just a BS post about chezinu rule that he didn't even try to investigate and an effortless vote on ritokys lynchwagon. boom. town mvp right here This is actually a pretty good post I think. | ||
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Ruxxar Wave Yamato Initial scumlist. | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Obi that list isn't very good. Neither are you but we make do. :ooooooooo | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:44 Fidei86 wrote: There are, by my count, five people on my 'scum lean' list (excluding lurkers, obv). There were four mafia in Himalayas, and there were 17 players in that game. There are 21 here, so four or five mafia sounds about right (anyone with more game balancing experience care to weigh in?). Ergo my scum list is probably there or thereabouts in terms of length. Obviously it is pretty unlikely that I just called the entire scum team accurately in my first post of reads (though the post-game cred would be pretty astonishing). I'm not sure whether any of my scum reads are stronger than any others. It is early. I would probably vote for Ritoky over the others, just because of how different he is playing to usual. But there's a way to go in the day yet, and I'm hoping things firm up a little. Sorry if that's wishy-washy, it's just where I am right now. So are the lurkers actual scumleans or just nullreads? Or are you just using the term "scumlean" to indicate someone you would lynch for lurking? | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Well mostly because it's zero effort. I'm aware that's sort of hypocritical but here we are. I prefer games to be easy like that. | ||
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On August 20 2015 07:52 ruXxar wrote: You managed to be the biggest waffle in the history of ever. Let me write you the whole story of your alignment indicative posts on me: #1) You are scum for voting me even though you admitted you were wrong. Easy to join the bandwagon when Breshke, HTS and Rels already led the way. #2) You are scum for having no reads. What you said about me are words without impact. It does not qualify as a read. You make bantering comments afraid of committing one way or the other. #3) You are scum for having no interest in solving the game. Your comments lead nowhere, and are as neutral as possible, sniffing out thread sentiment and trying to follow the flow of safe harbor. Shut up idiot. | ||
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Specifically, the whole bit on "it's time to sack up and play" seemed kinda towny and is the exact kind of thing people need to be saying right now. | ||
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1) I changed my read on you because you came up with garbage reasons to call me mafia. Other people actually voting you is irrelevant towards this point and you bringing it up means nothing. 2) I have reads. You saying they have no impact is meaningless. 3) You are simply wrong about me "not having interest in solving the game." This is nothing more than a plot-spackle reason people throw into their reads to make them sound smarter than they really are. The best case you'd ever be able to come up with is "he isn't doing anything," which isn't even true anymore because, shock and surprise, I have a scumlist and reads and I'm doing stuff. You can push as hard as you want but you have no case. | ||
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On August 20 2015 08:04 ruXxar wrote: Very legit. Go make reads after I make a case on you having no reads. Then claim you have reads :ooooooooooo. Yeah I'm just gonna keep voting you. | ||
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On August 20 2015 08:05 KelsierSC wrote: who is geript? Likely LS. Cluttered reads posts + overuse of I instead of I'm. | ||
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Nah he would have claimed already. | ||
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On August 20 2015 08:36 The Shining wrote: im obvtown. ur bad. why am I meh and you'd lynch me but tubesock is exceptionally meh and doesn't get the would lynch caveat? u trying to save ur scummate? and lots of would lynches. u getting mad over troll posts when some ppl are hiding in hints in them while roleplaying and giving reads. this should be fun. only scum don't have fun. tube, geript scum. game is ez folks I'm not really roleplaying either, so. | ||
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On August 20 2015 09:03 The Shining wrote: i don't even know who that is. but i will say my personality is a bit weird to play, to say the least. i guess im not doing it right. Obi im sry but what's the significance of u saying ur not roleplaying ur role in response to my post? I thought you were calling geript scum (or at least adding it to your list of arguments against him) because he wasn't having fun and wasn't roleplaying. I'm not roleplaying either. | ||
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On August 20 2015 09:14 The Shining wrote: i was scumming him for not having fun and somehow having me at the very top of his read list after my tube case. and that's funny cuz he says the same thing about me + tube but no "would lynch" on tubesock? wouldn't u lynch tube harder if he's exceptionally meh, whereas im meh? it's not so much the roleplaying geript is or isn't doing, but he's also telling others not to. i see a few roleplayers that look town or not scum, possible 3p. this line of thinking will lead to a kill all roleplayers attitude, which will kill the game. and this is a very ooc post for me but im looking for scum. who would want to kill the fun and the game with no roleplaying? scum. You're always kind of meh. Surprisingly so. iirc this game is more of a change of pace for you. | ||
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On August 20 2015 09:36 JudgeJudy wrote: meh I've voting for wave. Every time he pops into the thread he says something useless, rather than commenting on whatever is being discussed at the time. When obi posts his list, he says its bad rather than actually providing better alternatives. Even his vote for Ruxxar came way at the beginning of the cycle and he hasn't commented on any of the weird stuff he has said since then. This is an acceptable line of attack. | ||
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>:| Wave is now on my shitlist. | ||
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Should I buy SG? | ||
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On August 20 2015 12:49 Fecalfeast wrote: Do you like fast paced fighting games with bullshit combos and mixups? Sounds rather Marvel-ish. Is it mega-salt inducing? | ||
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Iuno if I can run it on my laptop though. /shrug You guys need xboxes. | ||
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Tubesock and yamato are my two alternatives and there's nothing I can do to follow up on that because neither of them are playing. /shrug at the idea of a chez wagon though, iirc he hasn't been a super juggernaut of activity even in his more recent games. On August 20 2015 13:01 Fecalfeast wrote: Controllers are weird to hold in my hands I have only really played pc games since forever Just get a fightstick for your xbox or something. | ||
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On August 20 2015 13:08 geript wrote: Sure. And ruxxar has the longest filter and has proven to say stupid shit as town. It's not a very high odds flip. He's a much better check than a lynch. Okay I suppose. I'll switch to Tube. I'm a bit more wait-and-see with yam because I'm still expecting him to deliver something towny. | ||
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Definitely not doing it tonight though. Possibly tomorrow. | ||
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On August 20 2015 13:13 WaveofShadow wrote: I expect absolutely nothing from yamato. Shoot him tonight. rofl | ||
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On August 20 2015 13:18 geript wrote: idk if he's town. i kinda liked his big post. Like there's very little read people on right now so I'm just going with my best guesses. In the immortal words of Palmar, you kill people who are doing nothing, being useless and saying scummy shit. I don't think that qualifies for Fido at all. Always an excellent plan. Btw these SG combos and stuff look mega hard to pull off with a keyboard lol. | ||
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:/ I'll have to research his towngames after these mkx matches. | ||
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Probably. | ||
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Doesn't seem like a feasible team to me atm. | ||
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On August 21 2015 01:05 Half the Sky wrote: I typically try to find the scum individually D1, get a flip or info from a VCA and then work from there. I don't think in teams D1 unless there's some strong correlation right now between people that I'm not seeing. Sensible enough I suppose. | ||
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On August 21 2015 01:33 Fidei86 wrote: OWS can you list some of the games you have played in before, so I can read them please? I've got a (mostly) updated list of games I've played in with links to all of my filters in my profile, for your convenience. | ||
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On August 21 2015 01:45 geript wrote: I don't get it. People want to leave Yamato, CheZinU and Kelsier in the game. Why? /shrug People have stronger reads elsewhere I suppose. Yam is probably going to be shot at this rate and Kels will step up eventually if he is town. Chez is interesting though. Could see lynching him. | ||
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On August 21 2015 02:53 Fidei86 wrote: EBWOP (the above randomly misses out the end of a sentence that I'd started) I just spent 15-20 minutes or so flicking back through OWS' past games. I read the first five pages of filter from his last two town games, and his last mafia game. In both, he definitely favours making lots of small posts. Furthermore, as town, he didn't seem particularly inclined to actually give reads or to make scum cases, rather all of his posts read like an ongoing dialogue with the thread. What struck me is that they all seemed to have a serious point to them, as though he was driving somewhere with them. The contrast to his scum game was subtle, but noticeable. In that, his points were responsive, but they were usually directionless. They read to me as though he was trying to stifle other people's lines of enquiry and also fill up his filter. To me, his filter this game reads more like the scum version of OWS that I have read than the town version of OWS. In the town filter that I flicked through, he had no off-topic posts. Here, I think I saw maybe five or six? He has a few where he is just commenting on who people are. He talks about xbox controllers quite a bit. It's not necessarily scum indicative to drag the conversation 'off topic' of course, but it doesn't look like something that town OWS did before. His questions also read to me as less incisive and less fluid than his posts. His flip-flop-flip on the Tube v Ruxx lynch is particularly jarring - he still hasn't looked into Ruxxar's games, or asked anyone who played with Ruxxar previously for an opinion. If he really thinks that that is the way to tell if Ruxx is scum, he should do it. Has anyone else played with him and get the same sense as I do? I obviously don't know the context of those games, so there could be something I'm missing. I thought I made it clear that I don't really care if rux is bad as town. | ||
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Literally nobody knows what to look for. | ||
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No, you're not missing any context. The differences you point out are probably correct, but they don't make me scum. Good attempt though. | ||
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On August 21 2015 03:28 Tubesock wrote: Obi, other than me, who would you lynch? Why? Rux for posting garbage. Yam/Chezinu for doing nothing. Otherwise idk. | ||
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On August 21 2015 03:36 Tubesock wrote: I didn't further talk about Fidei because he showed up and we chatted for a couple hours. Nothing really new to add. I still think he's best lynch. He's really nice so I kinda feel bad but then I read his stuff and it's like uhhhhhh what? His response about Damdred was mostly about Damdred the player not how he was in this game nor if he would lynch him or not. Several other people pointed out how he didn't answer questions but he sure is nice. yeeeeaaaaaah. Scum. Granted, Chezinu hasn't done much. What do you think of how he went after Damdred or Ritoky? I liked it felt towny to me. His downsides are that he isn't continuing it, and other than knowing his 4 current townreads, no one knows if he still scums Damdred or Ritoky. How does that outweigh 2 others who are doing some majorly weird shit? Let's even forget Fidei, ruXxar was slinging scum on anyone just to see if anything stuck. I guess you can call that scumhunting by reaction testing? But that seems pretty far fetched to me. I don't see how lynching Chezinu is higher prob mafia than Fidei, ruXxar or coinflipping half a dozen lurkers. Fidei is a bad lynch. Put your vote somewhere else. | ||
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On August 21 2015 03:39 geript wrote: It's more than just filter Wave. I've explained it a few times in thread. He says stupid shit as town. He's for the most part kept talking and is acting unafraid. He's got a longer filter than most (hell most haven't broken 2-3 pages. There's lots of reasons to think he's a bad flip. Can you explain to me why it's town!bad and not just him being scum? | ||
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On August 21 2015 04:39 geript wrote: It's not great wave. But it's big picture for me. Plus I'd rather lurker lynch. Off if I lose to people who post. Hell I don't give many fucks about this game but let's at least enjoy lynching the assholes who don't even play. Ehhhhh. Mayhaps. | ||
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I'd advise everyone else do the same. | ||
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He's been softing almost all game and I've been boldfacedly ignoring it because I didn't think town would want to give up that information so easily. | ||
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I would know. | ||
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On August 21 2015 05:06 yamato77 wrote: Fuck you geript, I am far and away a better player than you'll ever be. Can you please just do something towny and make this game more bearable? I'd prefer neither of you started a shitfight over nothing. | ||
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On August 21 2015 05:20 Tubesock wrote: Lord, your vote is on a blue claim...did you see that or ignoring it? Technically I'm ignoring it too. I still want him to hard claim. | ||
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On August 21 2015 05:43 The Shining wrote: disclaimer: i skimmed over the last like 10 pages, work sucks and life sucks right now. so what are we doing for EoD? Lynching either rux or chez. | ||
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On August 21 2015 05:47 Tubesock wrote: I didn't ever softclaim if you're talking to me. Kelsier is playing his role better than anyone in this game and he's not stealing yours. ALthough he isn't doing jackshit so he's a great lynch so I agree with you there. Rels contribution is that all three of Fidei, ruXxar, and I are mafia. Riiiiiigggghhhhhtt. And really inferred Ritoky too since we would have needed Ritoky to set up the double bus strategy. Newbs do really baller plays as scum. Yeah. Was talking about rux lol. | ||
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Like the possibility of lynching a or has ever stopped people from idiocy before. | ||
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Phone, sry. | ||
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All he has is his claim and some activity on his side. | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote: wait this is why ruxxar is being called town? lol Yeah it's pretty lame. | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:21 Half the Sky wrote: Read what Shining wrote about the wagons earlier. I don't understand why ruxxar wasn't defending himself, esp if he has an important ability. The votes are off him now, but I'd still expect him to contribute SOEMTHING. DT check him, Rels or possibly Damdred, but I think he might be okay. I still don't trust him tbh. | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:37 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol I wouldn't mind shenannies back onto ruxxar just cause I've read enough of peoples posting in this game that blue claims mean nothing and I forgot that At this point I think I'm just itching for someone to swing You want to swing back to rux? I'm serious. I'll do it. | ||
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Something tube said sounded towny to me but it's mostly gut, but it's enough to warrant not lynching him probably. | ||
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Everything is probably horrible. Whatever. | ||
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There was literally no resistance to that wagon. Is there even a reason as to why it cropped up the way it did? | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:49 Damdred wrote: I could lynch ruxx here. Lets lynch ruxx WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:51 Half the Sky wrote: I'm back. My head is spinning with respect to this game. Hold on. Tubesock is up to six votes like that too...the push on Fidei is bad, but does that make him mafia? Probably not. | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:51 Fecalfeast wrote: AAHHHHHHHHHH So many scummy people voting people I think are scummy I must be so fucking wrong I know lol. | ||
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If he's actually blue somehow, oh well. | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:54 Damdred wrote: Ruxx cares around lynch as town, he doesn't here I'm really unhappy with you as well. | ||
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On August 21 2015 06:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Somehow? He's either blue or scum. Is Tubesock not going down? Tubesock has maj atm. I want to kill rux though. Like I want to murder his face right off. I don't care about his claim in the slightest. | ||
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But only mildly. | ||
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Sry. | ||
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That's, like, not even a blue role. | ||
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None whatsoever. | ||
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On August 21 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote: I have 0 regrets now who has a question for me Why are you scum? | ||
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On August 21 2015 07:26 WaveofShadow wrote: I hope I'm one. rofl I love playing with you wave. | ||
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On August 21 2015 11:24 ritoky wrote: i am town aligned, but i can't control who i vote for each phase. the mods literally rng it and send it to me at the start of the phase and it is mandatory that i vote for that individual. while fidei was an okay vote this past phase i am just gonna go ahead and claim this now in the event that i am alive and forced to vote on a town read of mine tomorrow. That is literally the worst thing I've ever heard. | ||
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On August 21 2015 11:41 ritoky wrote: well it is a "fun" game. but yeah it kinda blows chunks. i considered claiming it immediately at the opening of the game, but i felt in the mood to try and RP. I'm not sure if I believe it or not. But really. If you're town, what's the point of even playing if your vote is worthless? | ||
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On August 21 2015 12:17 ritoky wrote: lol @ u you can still find scum even if you can't lynch them w/o getting lucky. but yes, if i were a mod i would never put a role like this in a game. Yeah I understand the concept + the whole "find scum anyway", but it just sounds so horrible on paper. I'd be fuming if I got that role. | ||
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I was kind of townleaning him for some earlier stuff but I felt like I should say it now anyways. | ||
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Aside from that I'm out of ideas. | ||
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Like srsly. My scumlist won't change. I'ma chill for a while. If anyone has questions you can ask but I'm good where I'm at atm. | ||
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Let's just lynch yamato for doing nothing and playing to his scum meta. | ||
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On August 22 2015 13:53 yamato77 wrote: Poor Obi, trying so hard bahaha :/ | ||
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I was wrong. >:| | ||
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On August 23 2015 03:42 yamato77 wrote: I'm impressed by the level of inactivity, really. I know. I can't help but laugh. | ||
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On August 23 2015 04:55 Bill Murray wrote: Geript how can I be "as bad as the previous player" when the previous player wasn't posting.......... you need to chill. Please just do something. Literally anything. | ||
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On August 23 2015 10:03 Fecalfeast wrote: anyone wanna make a list post or something we can talk about? People I'm okay with lynching: Rels Kelsier BM Yamato Just off the top of my head. I'm perfectly willing to switch to BM after I told him to do stuff and he did nothing instead. | ||
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I remember he made an excuse for activity but I can't recall what that was or why. I'll go check real quick. | ||
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He's just not active enough for my tastes. I liked most of the few posts that he had, | ||
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Forgive me if I missed it. | ||
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/shrug I'm really biased against the super inactives right now so I'd prefer to lynch into them before anyone else. | ||
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Is there any other valuable bit in regards to your role or is it just 100% awful? | ||
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On August 23 2015 13:13 ritoky wrote: Both of you (OWS and ff) listed BM but not rayn in your would lynch area, why? Rayn is in my "maybe" lynch pile. I made a one-off post explaining why. /shrug I guess I'm kind of biased because I like rayn and I don't like lynching him but I digress. | ||
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The whole "connection" between Breshke and fidei seems tenuous at best, though I do agree that Breshke is being useless and scummy. Otherwise I think I commented on everyone else at one point or another. | ||
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It'll make this game infinitely more annoying than it already is. | ||
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I'm okay with the deaths of chez/yam though. | ||
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On August 24 2015 04:22 KelsierSC wrote: im spartacus I giggled. | ||
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On August 24 2015 05:09 The Shining wrote: Nvm just saw you answered. And Fidei is here. Convenient timing =/ Can we all shenanny onto Fidei if his explanation never makes it into thread after voting onto the leading wagon? Yes. | ||
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On August 24 2015 05:15 ritoky wrote: i don't mind a rels lynch, its w/e. his recent posts have changed away from the impersonation he was trying to do before. dunno if that was cuz every1 was calling him scum or w/e. but at least he types things. fidei fucked off for 50 hours, and yamato just sat there and mocked us and refused to play. fuck that shit. Also this. Despite the inactivity I'm cool with where I'm at. | ||
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Yeah lol. | ||
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Dnu. Can't really read properly at work but I like what ritoky is saying. | ||
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/shrug | ||
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On August 24 2015 06:58 yamato77 wrote: ##Anti-Nuke: Chezinu Fucking seriously. Screw you. | ||
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On August 24 2015 10:37 Fidei86 wrote: please explain to me what the townie motivation is for this post. Easy: you're being obtuse and annoying and he wants to shoot you for it. | ||
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/shrug Lucky him if so. | ||
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On August 24 2015 11:25 ritoky wrote: @Obi: what of my vote stuff and the list i made, you agree/disagree? thoughts? order of suspicion? I still want to lynch yamato. LT is also a good choice for selling rayn as a good cop check. Otherwise whatever. | ||
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/shrug People were talking about vigs. I thought that was unsmart. I corrected them. | ||
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Lynch him lol. | ||
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On August 25 2015 05:25 Fecalfeast wrote: What's your motive here in the night? It's a simple yes or no question. If you don't answer I'm taking matters into my own hands. | ||
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Or ever. That would be bad. | ||
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I'm going to do something else instead. Ignore meeeeee. | ||
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On August 25 2015 05:54 ritoky wrote: OWS, A or B? What's the question exactly? I'll pick B anyway but whatever. | ||
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Christ. | ||
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Lame. | ||
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Nvm ignore me I'm just rambly and bad. I'ma vote Chez. | ||
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Dnu. | ||
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On August 25 2015 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote: i don't think so Idk. I'm just entertaining the idea considering he's still here and he's my top town. Chez is probably still the best course of action probably. | ||
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On August 25 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote: Should I have shot chez over yamato? I was going back and forth, esp after the anti-nuke from chez. It doesn't really matter I don't think. | ||
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Ty yam. :> | ||
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On August 25 2015 07:15 KelsierSC wrote: i checked me i'm town Nice. | ||
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On August 25 2015 11:56 Breshke wrote: Meh. I cant be bothered waiting for geripts answer or for obi to do this. ##Nuke:Chezinu (im fairly sure it will actually work this time) Did you get this nuke from yamato or did you just have it? | ||
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On August 25 2015 13:08 Breshke wrote: lol what if you got no result cos you were roleblocked ff? Obi i mightve given out some nukes when did you receive yours and how many you got? One, right at the start of today. | ||
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/shrug On August 25 2015 19:55 Rels wrote: Beginning to think fidei is right and we need to lynch FF regardless. OWS when you read this: can you nuke LT or FF ? We'll lynch the other. And we'll lynch tomorrow KSC if LT is not mafia. Isn't it best if I just double up and confirm that Chezinu gets nuked? Nobody else claimed to send nukes. | ||
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On August 25 2015 22:39 geript wrote: You shouldn't ever send 2 nukes at 1 person at once. That's just dumb and a waste of nukes. Did you catch the bit about yamato's nukes or no? | ||
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On August 25 2015 23:01 Rels wrote: LOL JJ =D (sorry if it's not a joke) OWS, doubling up nukes means we could waste them actually. Maybe better nuke either FF or KSC N3 when we confirm which one is lying. One of them has to be fake. | ||
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On August 25 2015 23:14 Breshke wrote: I dont think it works like that. His role said that the nukes can be real fake or anti. Not that there is one of each Oh right. Okay. Maybe I don't nuke Chez then. | ||
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It's so bad. SO BAD. | ||
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Why not? | ||
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Maybe there's some kind of motivation for him to lynch mafia instead of do nothing. | ||
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On August 26 2015 01:41 Fidei86 wrote: Well, yeah. I've been pretty sure that Obi is mafia for a while, but I'll need to put a filter dive and read together later. I might nuke you for being bad instead tbh. | ||
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On August 26 2015 01:50 Fidei86 wrote: Can we all agree that this post betrays an extremely anti-town agenda / way of thinking? Ritoky has said extremely similar things as well. Like, if I'm town, which basically everyone thinks I am (and which I am, lol) you want me to survive. You may find me frustrating, but if you're playing to your win condition, you shouldn't want to kill me. All you're doing here is soft scumming me, and that's literally a classic mafia play. I'm not scumming you at all. I'm calling you stupid and I want to nuke you for making me angry. | ||
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On August 26 2015 02:48 Rels wrote: Wait. Can someone explain to me very simply the reasons of osw being angry like that. Cause to me, like fidei, it looks like a mafia faking anger. Even assuming that, i dont understand the reasons on being angry. Because I'm tired of getting tunneled by idiots every game. | ||
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On August 26 2015 01:55 Fidei86 wrote: Okay so I reread this post, and I think that Damdred's post is a little clearer now. If Damdred's win condition is to help us find and lynch mafia, then why the hell would town want him dead? He is actually a strong player and his actions at EOD 2 show that. I can't conceive of a 3P who would want to kill all the mafia and then would be able to win against town? The only thing that crosses my mind -- and it is crazy -- is perhaps becoming part of "House Brown" means that if we're the only ones left at the end of the game with damdred, he can kill us and be the last person standing? Is that insane? Because short of that, I'm cool with Damdred achieving his win condition, as long as town reach ours as well. This is also not what I was implying. I was implying that he could be something along the lines of a cult leader or something. | ||
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Why the fuck am I listening to you about anything rofl. | ||
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I've been lynched for less. | ||
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On August 26 2015 03:13 Damdred wrote: No obi you aren't implying I am a cult leader with that post but I digress. Fine, let me make it really clear: I think you're a detrimental third party that, for some reason or another, immediately suspected me once I suggested nuking you. Why shouldn't I nuke you? | ||
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On August 26 2015 03:18 Rels wrote: Because we will have one confirmed mafia during n3 that you can nuke. Because damdred actually lynched a mafia. Okay, scratch the nuke bit. Why shouldn't we lynch him? The whole "he lynched mafia" simply isn't enough. | ||
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Why does he even care? | ||
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On August 26 2015 03:22 Damdred wrote: So the detrimental to town third party lynches mafia? You suggest I'm a cult leader but give no real rational proof. Besides that misfiring a nuke with how the nights are going basically puts us in lylo Sort of, yeah. A detrimental 3p would have to get rid of mafia at some point. /shrug | ||
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On August 26 2015 03:24 geript wrote: Not really no. As cult or SK or similar, he'd need to get rid of mafia at some point to win. Even as survivor it makes the win a good bit faster and quicker and he'd have more fun doing it. I don't understand how this works. Clarify pls? | ||
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On August 26 2015 03:37 geript wrote: So cults/sk generally win solo and have to eliminate both mafia and town. So he'd be incentivized to kill mafia. As survivor, the quickest path to victory usually involves killing mafia. You only 'work with mafia' if they get really ahead. Gotcha. | ||
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On August 26 2015 10:32 geript wrote: Also you're not a true American if you don't click this link and read the comments. amazing | ||
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On August 26 2015 11:44 geript wrote: Fwiw, I think the lynch today should be between KSC and LT. I think I'm okay with this. | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:27 Fidei86 wrote: These gifs have just about made this game bearable, JJ Definitely a smurf. | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:07 Fidei86 wrote: JJ or me? JJ is a smurf, I think that is basically confirmed. Not sure who it actually is though. I'm onto you. | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:57 Fidei86 wrote: Oh, and please explain to me the town motivation for trying to undermine my credibility by accusing me of being a smurf? rofl | ||
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On August 27 2015 04:12 Fidei86 wrote: Either you're Mafia, in which case you being a dick makes me want to lynch you, or you're town in which case you're distracting me from scum hunting. And in any event, there really is no reason for being a dick. So stop. Uhh. What? | ||
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On August 27 2015 04:53 Chezinu wrote: ##AntiNuke Chezinu >:| Who gave him all these anti nukes? | ||
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Happy with Lt. Glgl. | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:23 Rels wrote: OK so ff is probably mafia for having a "no result" check not explained by lt role. Ff mafia probably means chez is 3p and not mafia. This is improved by lt nuking chez. Chez not lying means ritoky is probably mafia. Nuking ff is a super good play here. More or less confirm chez 3p and rit mafia Makes sense to me. Will double check stuff when I'm home. Any objections? | ||
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On August 27 2015 13:00 geript wrote: I changed my mind. OWS is clearly mafia. Look at the team he reps. Rood. | ||
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I'll look around at work but I won't make my decision until tomorrow. I'm thinking I'm going to nuke between FF, KSC, and Damdred. | ||
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On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote: fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817 3 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote: OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. | ||
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On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote: Everybody wants to nuke the chez! The town The mafia The brown? I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. | ||
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Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that? | ||
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Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims. | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote: Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done. The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him. Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power. Yeah that's not really how information works. | ||
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I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier. | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:32 Rels wrote: Best part is your nuke could be fake >< Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake. | ||
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W/e. | ||
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The thing is: can the same be said about ff? | ||
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On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote: Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred? Ask the people that want to nuke him. | ||
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On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote: TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke. Yeah. | ||
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Chez is probably still the best nuke. | ||
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That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm. | ||
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On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote: Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn. Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred. And ny death puts you closer to lylo. Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke. I'm not going to nuke you. I'm torn between chez and ff. Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break. | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote: The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded. Pfft. Okay. | ||
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So is his general apathy towards lynches. | ||
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On August 28 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote: hmmm if i go back and look at my vote analysis post and continue to assume that there wasn't 1 mafia in the rayn lynch (which i might have to begin considering soon). the list is now down to: OWS KSC rels chez i remember logicking out why it couldn't have been a mafia vs mafia wagon earlier so rels is probably off the list. if ksc really is town here....then the mafia is literally chez + OWS or else there was 1 in the rayn wagon.... But I'm not mafia. D: | ||
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Idk who I should blow up. | ||
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Because he keeps anti nuking everything. | ||
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On August 28 2015 09:34 Tictock wrote: I kinda want to lynch Obi for failing so hard with that nuke. | ||
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Like really. I can't shake the idea. | ||
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On August 28 2015 10:18 geript wrote: I imagine for that exact question. IDK, i'm not mafia. I don't control NKs. Like this is a really stupid question because there's no real way for me to answer it. Like, as "confirmed town" my vote track is pretty fucking terrible. I mean, if you think I'm mafia, then you pretty much have to say I'm godfather. Or like traitor maybe and didn't get converted pre-N2 when I was checked by FF. I know there's no way you can combat it/answer it for yourself. I know of plenty scenarios where players that I would expect to be dead don't die and wind up being town. /shrug It's something to think about at the very least. | ||
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On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote: Now, about ObiWanShinobi. I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well. Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post: So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did: He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work. Now look at what OWS did: 1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work. And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch. But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP): And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about: + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that? On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen? On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself. Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims. On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah that's not really how information works. On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: mmm I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier. On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake. On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Shock and surprise nobody trusts me. W/e. On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah I fucking get it. On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day. The thing is: can the same be said about ff? On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Ask the people that want to nuke him. On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though. Chez is probably still the best nuke. On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels. That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm. On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm not going to nuke you. I'm torn between chez and ff. Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break. On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened: - OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones - OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours - Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu - But of course the nuke didn't work And here is why he did it He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner. But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped. He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him. TLDR OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later. Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline. Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:15 Rels wrote: OK then OWS; do you think Chezinu is scum ? He's my current most likely candidate, yes. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:18 Rels wrote: And yes, the analysis is exactly "OWS shot the nuke 1 minute after nuke deadline, while he was in the thread for 7 hours, made 17 posts, and none of them looked like he was really thinking about who to lynch. BTW, Breshke who made this observation in his second to last post is now dead." Bullshit. And I was at work the whole time. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote: So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ? Yes and no. It was unclear. I thought the 1 hour before deadline bit was in regards to the actual deadline rather than the silent deadline. If it worked for tubesock, why wouldn't it work for me? /shrug | ||
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I fucking answered it. Get off my dick. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:24 Rels wrote: No. Who could be partner with Chezinu ? I think it's you or KSC. Are you OK nuking KSC ? I don't have the answer to that question. Why to either of those players? | ||
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Why KSC? | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:29 Rels wrote: You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3. KSC: I don't see how these points warrant a lynch. | ||
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I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:33 Rels wrote: OK. I'll let you make cases on who you want then. I doubt I'll make a giant case on someone but I'll be doing stuff today. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote: You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. | ||
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I didn't really put much stock in Rels' case on him so if someone else can tell me why we should lynch him, that'd be cool. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote: Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. I am well aware of this. But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up. I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote: He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check. He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target. He caused the death of a cop. And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim. I might be remembering things wrong, then. Hrm. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote: Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch. LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him. Honestly I do feel like I have to look at it again. I've been writing it off as "he lynched mafia" so I mostly gave him a pass (plus, I thought him defending rux was towny/goofy) but it might not be enough at this juncture. | ||
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Pay attention. | ||
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On August 29 2015 03:00 Tictock wrote: So do something that sways me. Talk is cheap. Shut up idiot. | ||
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It's getting old. If you feel like getting a runthrough of my opinions, they're out there. There's 0 reason for you not to be able to see them and I'm not going to rehash them for someone that won't read the thread. Anyways, I'm going out for a bit. I'm aware I need to follow up on some ksc research (and plausibly something geript did that rels picked up on) but I won't be able to do that until later. | ||
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Jesus christ. You're not even trying. | ||
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On August 29 2015 04:55 Tictock wrote: My role is to be a ponce, and think I'm a lot better than I actually am. + Show Spoiler + Zing! I also missed my upgrade kus it required me to be good at this game. So I have nothing special going on. Also I'm rather upset I have not gotten any nukes... Me? >_> Also my role is kind of bleh and I never used it, save for once on someone who died. | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:12 ritoky wrote: that nuke is really dumb. like really dumb. like this dumb: ##vote chezinu lol basically. | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:39 Rels wrote: Fuck you. Not talking to you anymore. Ows nuke that guy Not a terrific idea imo. | ||
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Maybe I go with ksc instead. | ||
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So nuking ritoky is the proper play here. | ||
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On August 29 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote: Oh well then I can't tell you if I was honestly or not no night actions. However the circumstantial evidence is pretty high and I think lynch ritoky hold nuke and obi nuke someone either during the night or tommorow. Who would I nuke otherwise? This is, like, the best opportunity for me to nuke someone. | ||
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Alright. Let's just lynch ritoky. | ||
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On August 29 2015 19:33 Fidei86 wrote: I'm a more than a tiny bit concerned that OWS - who has been shit talking with me all game - was so quick to jump on the rit 'wagon'. We should bear that in mind moving forward. Yes - I'm going to ignore a likely guilty check on mafia because you're annoying. Gj. | ||
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On August 29 2015 23:56 Tictock wrote: Ok, so Chez and prob Obi then. I know I said they can't be on the same team but if Chez is mafia then there is like every posibility that the anti-nuke was fake and was a play into wifom. Also makes way too much sense why Obi would hols his nuke then, he knew if he used it on anyone but Chez or FF he would be up for a lynch. However using it on FF just made Chez a very likely lynch today and couldn't use it on chez expect for after deadline. Shut up. | ||
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I'm perfectly content never playing with you again after this game. | ||
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On August 30 2015 02:31 Rels wrote: I will add that ff was voting ksc so he would have checked him. Ksc rescinding would have give ff a green check if he is really town. What exactly are you saying here? | ||
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On August 30 2015 02:59 Rels wrote: Ff was going to check ksc. Ff got lynched because him and ksc had different check. Ksc could have saved him so ff checks him. Ksc not saying anything killed ff. Right. Duh. I thought you were saying something completely different. Ignore meeeeee. | ||
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I kind of wanted this to be dealt with last night so I didn't really have to think about chez anymore/listen to people talk about him. I'm just going to reevaluate later. | ||
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On August 30 2015 04:21 Fidei86 wrote: There is no need to nuke today. You can nuke after the flip exactly the same. This, basically. | ||
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On August 30 2015 04:21 Chezinu wrote: OH AND DON"T LISTEN TO RELS IF HE SAYS I PLAYED POORLY! I really did tried. After being nuke/lynch for the 4/5th time, you kind of lose it. I've been there. :/ I'm not even that sure on you but I have no idea how I'd get people off of you at this point. /shrug Sorry if wrong. | ||
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On August 30 2015 04:53 Rels wrote: seriously not talking about the red check, how can you believe he could be town LT fake nuking him over 3 other possible targets, and him not responding to nuke saying he got a check on dead yamato when FF affirmed he got no check on dead WOS not pushing FF until N3 not pushing ritoky putting LT in green in list post seriously, I'm so glad I decided to check him, 'cause if people can't see he's mafia I don't know what to say I dunno. I'm kind of a sucker for people who get frustrated. Maybe I'm just seeing things because I've been in that same position as town where everybody just tunnels the fuck out of me and makes the game unbearable. | ||
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Stay on chez. | ||
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On August 30 2015 05:35 geript wrote: I don't think it makes ritoky mafia though. I think it means FF got back no result due to gf upgrade and ritoky was RB on n2. Doesn't it? | ||
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On August 30 2015 05:46 geript wrote: Can't rule out the possibility of 2RB where the other targets ritoky n2 and fido n3 lol | ||
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Meh. Let's get this over with. | ||
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On August 30 2015 08:06 Tictock wrote: Oh and thank you Obi for not keeping us on the edge of our seats all night. Yw. | ||
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On August 30 2015 11:15 Fidei86 wrote: OWS: you said earlier in the game that people with investigative checks shouldn't visit you (soft claiming PGO I guess) but here you see to be suggesting you yourself have an investigative role. Can you clarify? No I'm not? | ||
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Just a heads up, in case that's your goal. | ||
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My role is basically cancer if I land in a PoE list (which I guess I have for most people) so don't do it unless you absolutely have to and you can't get over me for whatever reason. Scum is never going to shoot me so I have no problem talking about this bit. They're never going to roleblock me either because there are cops and stuff around. | ||
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On August 31 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote: Also it's sorta impossible for rit to fake rb chez since rit is claiming to shoot yamato also so not sure there. I don't understand this bit. Elaborate? Can he not do both or something? | ||
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Meh. I'm just gonna chill until ksc flips and reevaluate if he's town. I doubt it but it is what it is. | ||
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On August 31 2015 05:26 Damdred wrote: Its more than likely rels tbh Uhhhh why? | ||
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On August 31 2015 05:27 geript wrote: yah, well, join the crowd. at least you don't have to deal with the "Why are you who's been townread by like everyone and greenchecked still alive?" rofl Sorry about that. :D | ||
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On August 31 2015 05:34 Damdred wrote: The only reason I think it's rels is he claims red check on chez and,he flipped red. That doesn't really sound like a fantastic reason to lynch him though. | ||
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On August 31 2015 07:42 Fidei86 wrote: Hey KSC - thanks for the throw, we really appreciate it. Not. I'm still waiting for my check from the mods atm, will post as soon as I get it. I watched TT because I thought there was a decent chance the Mafia would avoid Rels, as he was so obviously town. So yeah ... I probably won't get anything. Dude... | ||
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On August 31 2015 07:56 ritoky wrote: my poe tells me to lynch ows....otherwise there was 1 in the rayn wagon and ugh... probably need to really read ows filter today Poe isn't enough, yo. | ||
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On August 31 2015 07:56 geript wrote: I'm going to be gentle and use lube. I expect that you'd be claiming rb regardless. But people need to learn to not wifom shit. There's literally zero reason to wifom this. He is town. He was likely to be suspected as a cop. Just watch him to find out if you fucking track NKs or not. I don't get it. Like it's literally the most brainless auto correct action ever. But seriously. This. If I end up getting lynched because Fid didn't track properly then I'm going to lose my mind. | ||
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On August 31 2015 09:39 ritoky wrote: obi, who's mafia? i am really interested in your answer. I'll get back to you on that. I'm almost half inclined to agree with Damdred's bit on TT but I might be biased. | ||
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Why do people not trust her/him/whatever? | ||
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On August 31 2015 10:39 Fidei86 wrote: Before the inevitable ritoky/OWS flame, I will say that yes, I will re-read the other filters. And I will keep listening and interacting. But that's what I'm thinking right now. Rabble rabble. | ||
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Seems like it's basically beyond repair at this point anyway. | ||
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hahahaha This sucks. | ||
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On August 31 2015 11:03 ritoky wrote: didn't u claim untargetable void of all blahh blahh? Oh no I'm totally targetable. It just turns out that I take away someone's powers when they visit me. | ||
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On August 31 2015 11:08 Damdred wrote: Rit its pretty obvious I'm survivor and I'm town siding at this point. Or else the game would be over at this point. so why lynch me or even think it. Would it though? Would it really? | ||
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On August 31 2015 11:27 ritoky wrote: hey obi, how's that who's mafia list going for ya? I'm boldfacedly not taking care of it right now. | ||
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Let's get to work. | ||
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On August 31 2015 11:34 ritoky wrote: Oh goodie, something to tear to shreads. I'm listening. (Btw, that was a very entertaining case to read. There were a bunch of bits that I liked but we'll see how this plays out.) | ||
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On August 31 2015 13:06 Damdred wrote: Ows steals abilities of people who visit him No I don't. I have a 1-shot vanillize on someone who visits me. I haven't claimed my full role. | ||
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It just says visit. | ||
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I'll go check. | ||
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On August 31 2015 13:59 geript wrote: idk i kinda think that lynch isn't that important. idk why though. Uhhhhhhhhhhhh really? | ||
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On August 31 2015 15:04 geript wrote: But OWS's history is kinda interesting because he's seemed to vote between only 'town' options on D1/2 (aka town/traitor/3p). He's the only one of the 4 still alive not on Rayn. Which is kinda interesting. Especially considering the triple red vote on Rels. So that lynch is interesting when I'm voting on town options but not when you're on the lynch with 4 other mafia? | ||
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Ignore meeeeee. | ||
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Super mafia. | ||
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On September 01 2015 02:23 Damdred wrote: Tt is hiding from me Survivor so scry. | ||
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I'm just fillering and checking in atm. | ||
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On September 01 2015 09:05 Damdred wrote: Jj is probably mafia honestly I tried to pull a funny on tt but he handled it pretty seemledsly plus meta wise he doesn't hard bus ij his only mafia game meh So why JJ then? | ||
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So I don't understand the whole bit about geript + me being mafia together since it doesn't really confirm anything and just makes everyone else's life easier at the expense of his role. It's just a moot argument that goes nowhere. | ||
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Ritoky/damdred: who do I vote? I'm aware I haven't really responded to JJ. Long story short is that I thought the bits on ritoky's actions after the day 1 lynch and possibly him avoiding rayn during lynch. I'd give more details but I'm tired and I don't know what else I'd elaborate on. Technically he's still on my lynch list but I'm at a loss as to who else I should lynch, aside from possibly TT. | ||
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Hi. Okay. Bye. | ||
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lol sorry I thought I was clearer but apparently I can't english.) | ||
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If nothing else I'll feel so vindicated killing someone who was annoying me earlier. | ||
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Sometimes I ogle my own filters because I adore myself. | ||
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Just in case you thought it was only implied. | ||
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I can accept the fact that someone here probably knows more than I do because I haven't put the effort in to find the best lynch myself. | ||
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On September 01 2015 22:25 Fidei86 wrote: @OWS Kind of need you to pull your socks up here and help out. If you're town, this is the meaty bit of the game. You can't coast by any more (if you're town) because everyone has to be up for consideration, and that most certainly includes you. What exactly are you asking for? | ||
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On September 02 2015 00:27 Fidei86 wrote: Nope, that's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it looks bad for him RIGHT NOW. Lots of people have pointed out that remaining players less rayn train less green checks = Obi. Him surviving right now, as mafia, would be great. He then makes it to lylo and either turns it up, or alternatively keeps lurking and hopes that he gets passed over (because of comments like yours). I'm not saying he IS mafia, I'm saying that it's not good enough for him to be like "don't care lol" when we're so close to the end of the game. I love how you just completely overlook what anyone is saying about me being town. | ||
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On September 02 2015 01:04 Fidei86 wrote: I'm not over looking it - as far as I can see it's all just META META META. And I want more than that. If I've missed something, please do correct me! Considering your whole scumread on me started because of meta that you clearly didn't understand, I'm going to say that's all you're getting since you obviously don't care about anything that doesn't already support the conclusions you made. | ||
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On September 02 2015 01:50 geript wrote: There's not a clear stylistic town v scum. Basically. iirc I don't recall ritoky's defense being that bad, plus I thought his bit on Tt made sense. The only thing I remember from Tt is him writing a rehashed bad case on me. It's not strong enough to warrant defending rit but that's where I'm at. | ||
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On September 02 2015 01:53 Fidei86 wrote: Riiiiiiiiiiight. That's why, having already written that I 100% agreed with JJ's ritoky read, I started questioning it, then questioned TT and now I'm pushing you? Because I'm so set in my ways? Of course I care about frikking winning this game. Why do you think I've spent so much time playing it? I'm only invested in my thoughts and reads insofar as they are correct. Where they are wrong, I dearly want people to point that out to me, because I want to win. So humour me, please, and point out why my read on you is wrong. It's been repeatedly explained to you you fucking moron. Bug someone else. | ||
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That was probably a bit over the line. | ||
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On September 02 2015 02:23 JudgeJudy wrote: Can someone highlight the case against TT because I haven't really seen a good one yet aside from a point here or there or a general "well somebody has to be scum so I guess it may be him" read. He was part of the rayn swap and he was even one of the first people to bring it up. If four mafia are on Rels with tube showing up at the last second to hammer, what exactly is the play here? For TT to totally make the others look terrible, sacrifice the rest of the team, and hope he makes it to end game by himself? It seems a lot easier just to go along with the yamato lynch or whatever he finds interesting. There is evidence in his filter that he is looking back to try to understand stuff. Is there something else that I am overlooking? Like what makes him look better than ritoky? Heck, I'd lynch obi before TT at the moment. I'm really not confident on it at all. It also wouldn't surprise me if I was wrong on ritoky cuz I almost always read him as town regardless of anything. I explained my read as best I could but take it with a grain of salt. | ||
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On September 02 2015 05:38 Tictock wrote: Fid... It's somewhere in between I don't have a super solid reason to push him, he's just the top slot in PoE, and that I don't feel like pushing him will be very revealing. I've been trying to explain to JJ the same thing kus I earlier stated this notion as "I don't think an Obi lynch will give us much info" So far when pushed Obi has just shut down and called me stupid or mean for pushing him. Pretty much just stupid, cuz you've never actually had a case in yet you keep acting like you do. | ||
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Good luck. | ||
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Why can't you just claim? | ||
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On September 02 2015 08:02 Fidei86 wrote: What do we think the odds are that Ticktock is a vote rigging roleblocker? Because unless there are two mafia left, that's the only possibility if he is mafia. It seems pretty OP to me? Thoughts? Very low. Therein lies the problem. | ||
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Is that a thing? It doesn't sound like a thing. | ||
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If you've got anything that can make you look slightly less awful then claim them. | ||
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On September 02 2015 08:47 Tictock wrote: So your claiming a sorta role blocking ability? Before you said it was only to people who visited you and was one shot. No, I'm claiming vanillizer. I never full claimed my role. | ||
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On September 02 2015 08:54 JudgeJudy wrote: Who have you used it on so far or is it 1-shot? Oh no it's totally multishot. It lasts for a day and a night sequence. The only person I've ever used it on was yamato. | ||
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Bleehhhhhhhhhhh. | ||
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Who knows! | ||
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On September 02 2015 08:59 Tictock wrote: Ok, so Obi vanilizes me so you guys can for sure lynch me tomorrow. After that who are you all lynching? Kus if I'm mafia I for sure didn't make this play w/o someone else being around to carry the endgame. Maybe I don't take your powers away. If you're the runaway vote you're dead anyway. Who should I vanillize? | ||
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On September 02 2015 09:02 Damdred wrote: Obi is your power blockable? WHO WANTS TO KNOW | ||
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On September 02 2015 09:05 Damdred wrote: If it's not block able and since TT is probably getting lynched anyway you can confirm someone Like jj Sounds good. | ||
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On September 02 2015 09:09 Tictock wrote: Well I assume your ability just takes away role powers, but it wouldn't actually stop KP or anything right? Honestly I can't think of someone else who is good to use that on based on the info we have. Assuming everyone is being honest about their role abilities I'm the pretty clear target. Does your ability affect night actions? or is it only valid the cycle after you use it? I have no idea how to use it. I put no thought into it because it sounded hilariously anti town so I left it alone. I guess I could use it now but it probably only affects the night sequence afterwards, which is not very useful. | ||
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On September 02 2015 09:16 Tictock wrote: So then if you used it on Mafia tonight, KP and RB would still go through, but tomorrow night the RP would be blocked, correct? I fail to see how we use that to confirm anyone tbh. Also it sounds like this explains what happened with FF perfectly... I never used my power on FF. The only way I would have had any interaction with FF is if he used something on me, which is impossible because geript vanillized himself on me yesterday. Kp would still go through. The Rb wouldn't. So we would find the person that's rbing Fidei. | ||
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On September 02 2015 09:30 Damdred wrote: I'd like to say use your power on jj to confirm him as not the rb. Besides that if oh I had used his power on ff neither check would of happened Why would I use it on JJ again? | ||
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I'm getting paranoid. | ||
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On September 02 2015 10:33 Damdred wrote: Sorry was just getting off work. I'm confirmed 3p survivor so nothing to be paranoid from me at this point. However there are two people who most people question pretty hard. That is tt and jj. I think tt gets lynched no matter what tommorow. If we could have one more confirmed going into tommorow would be good probably or at least not confirmed rb Alright. | ||
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On September 02 2015 12:12 geript wrote: 100% use the vanilla-izer on TT. Period. Just in case. It only takes place the night after. It won't stop whatever it is he can do tonight. Are we just using it to stop him from using day powers again or are we going to confirm people outside of him in case of extra mafia? | ||
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I think it's plausible but he has this compulsive need to bog me down in nonsense every time I show up ITT. | ||
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On September 02 2015 22:41 JudgeJudy wrote: Why didn't you use it on KSC? Like you nuked the guy so you thought he was most likely to mafia. Yet you thought it would be anti-town to strip him of his power that night? Also, I assume you used your power on yamato night 2 after he used his anti-nuke on chez? What's the point of vanillizing a dead person? Also I vanillized Yamato night 2. | ||
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On September 02 2015 23:28 Damdred wrote: Rels checked confirmed me Quote it for me? | ||
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Jj, who's mafia? | ||
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Phone posting lol. | ||
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Can they carry out 2 kp with one member? | ||
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It might have been earlier but I can't really check. | ||
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I don't know. I'm just gonna use my power and hope for the best tonight. | ||
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Spectacular. | ||
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On September 03 2015 03:44 Fidei86 wrote: Can we have a rule for tomorrow, please, that if someone accuses you of being mafia, you have to not take it personally? Someone here is lying. Like, that's the entire game. We don't know who it is, so we have to assume it could be anybody, including you OWS. I already said that I'm going to be re-reading and that I'm not convinced it's you. But I do think it's you, and I'm not going to not answer the question JJ asked. You obviously aren't going to like it, but please stop thinking it's a personal attack on you when it isn't. And he continues to ignore the fact that he has no case or reasoning behind his vote. Goody. | ||
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On September 03 2015 09:24 JudgeJudy wrote: TT could you also explain your thought process behind not revealing your role earlier in the cycle? If mafia only has one to two people left at that point then wouldn't they not have control of the lynch anyways? Doesn't this mean you would have received your upgrade as claimed? There are 7 people there... If this is the post that failed then that confirms that the final mafia is between you two. | ||
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Ignore me, I jumped the gun again lmfao. | ||
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Should be fine. | ||
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On September 03 2015 10:35 JudgeJudy wrote: One thing I will say is weird is that TT's claimed upgrade required him to "correctly" identify 7 town reads, rather than simply having 7 town reads. All the other upgrades were simply role playing things that match the player's character, but this one is like a pseudo mass alignment check. Yeah... | ||
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Why would he screw up his own upgrade if he's mafia? | ||
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Hang on a second. Maybe I'm just thinking about this wrong. I need to check. | ||
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So he put damdred in his townlist, because...Bad? The fuck lol. | ||
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I got my upgrade and I was like "oh, neato." I think I said that a while ago but I'm not really entirely certain. As for rayn, I kinda liked that he came in and was immediately giving reads and doing stuff. It wasn't entirely objective but you know, people who don't annoy me tend to slip my by peripherals a lot more. Someone disagreeing with me doesn't usually make them mafia. PLUS, there were so many inactives at the time that it was kind of "eh" zeroing in on any of them aside from maybe yamato. I think I covered why Tt was a better lynch - ritoky responded somewhat adequately and I posted my Tt reasoning during my work hours. I wasn't really confident in it but whatever I suppose. | ||
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I basically auto completed mine and forgot about it. /shrug | ||
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I'm sure my bias in killing him for being awful isn't really helping but you know. | ||
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On September 02 2015 01:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Basically. iirc I don't recall ritoky's defense being that bad, plus I thought his bit on Tt made sense. The only thing I remember from Tt is him writing a rehashed bad case on me. It's not strong enough to warrant defending rit but that's where I'm at. | ||
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lol Get out. | ||
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Hrm. Give me a minute. | ||
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I want to know what JJ thinks still. | ||
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On September 04 2015 14:43 Tictock wrote: Geript is obviously the person to listen to here, I mean he's been so right all game. Just lynch me and get this over with. You're not really helping yourself. | ||
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On September 05 2015 00:15 Damdred wrote: Obi what do you think though Still don't really trust JJ. @TT: Did you ever address what JJ brought up? It kind of seems like it but I'd like to confirm for the sake of it. | ||
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For some reason my dumb thinkbrain went "he doesn't know how to read me so...is that actually an answer?" For some reason I still don't know if he addressed your post properly, like he glanced over it a bit and came up with an answer that makes sense on paper but really just misses the point entirely. It just kind of threw me for a loop because I couldn't really tell what happened between you two. /shrug | ||
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Toodles. | ||
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Okay. This is pretty much it then. | ||
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On September 05 2015 05:53 geript wrote: I'm getting antsy pants. Idk why. /shrug | ||
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Seriously. Fuck you. | ||
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On September 05 2015 08:19 Tictock wrote: Gunna /in any game your in just to call you mafia now for no reason. Help a brother get a townread next time will ya? Nah I'm just gonna blacklist you. You've developed this nasty tendency to never read anything I write so stay away from me. We're done. | ||
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Jesus. | ||
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On September 05 2015 13:02 geript wrote: No it doesn't stink for town. It's complete bullshit. Hosts should not decide how the final lynch of the game goes. It's really, really fucked up and shouldn't ever happen. All it does is create feel bads. Put Onegu in OWS's place. They posted about as much and were as effective. But Onegu recently has actually gotten to lynch someone in lylo. It's a really fucking terrible policy to have as a host and he should change it. If he doesn't change it, then there's literally zero reason for anyone to play in his games because they can't count on regular win conditions or on the host not preemptively ending the game. In a closed setup, if he's going to answer that question for you, then he needs to post that in the thread. Because it gives an unfair advantage to you. It also pretty heavily favors scum in two different ways; first, it makes it far more favorable to just lynch 3P regardless of what they claim (preventing scum lynches) and second it means they gain an extra player or two near ANY lylo. It's really terrible and should never ever be used. Additionally, people should know what their win conditions are in the least. Huh? | ||
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On September 05 2015 13:16 geript wrote: People should never be unclear about their win conditions. If Onegu were playing the game (in your slot) and you hosting, he'd have the feel bads too because the last lynches were set. Onegu has been in idk 2-3 lylos recently; but he's gotten to lycnh people in said lylos. This one not so much. 1-1-3 isn't lylo and shouldn't be unless players are aware of that fact. Basically, if you run a game with non-standard roles, players should be informed about that. If you run a game with non-standard alignments, players should be informed about that. If you run a game with alignment altering roles, players should be informed about that. If you run a game with non-standard win conditions, players should be informed about that. Jester existing is a bit surprising but is kinda meh because you know it's themed and more likely to have non-standard 3P roles. You can bitch about balance being off a little but because it's themed it's kinda a given going in that one side or another will be heavily favored. But when you spring other major changes (like alignment altering roles or altered win-conditions), that's something people need to know going into the game so they can choose whether the game is right for them to join or not. Oh okay. I thought you were saying something completely different. I kind of agree, but I'm still aware of the fact that I shouldn't have relied on the survivor not winning immediately anyway. I was well aware of the fact that we would probably win on the spot since Damdred and me were on good terms which also seems a bit out there. | ||
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What would have happened if I used it on Chez? | ||
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Meh. Wasted opportunity. Live and learn. | ||
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