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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 15:47 GMT
#841
Meh, I really cbf checking if someone is awful as town.
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 15:51 GMT
#842
On August 21 2015 00:45 yamato77 wrote:
So this is a fun game


Do you have anything to share? Any reads?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 15:59 GMT
#843
Hts, who else is mafia?
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 16:00 GMT
#844
On August 21 2015 00:43 Fidei86 wrote:
HTS I posted a case on VA and nobody has commented on it. What do you think?


Alright, there is actually a reason for this, a lot is with your inexperience.

On August 20 2015 20:51 Fidei86 wrote:
I think there is a reasonable scum case to be made on VayneAuthority.

His filter is currently less than a page long, and consists almost entirely of one-line posts that appear to be attempts to roleplay someone. No idea who though. It could be a comically poor rsoult (just for use of the kiss at the end?), I guess, but whatever. If it was just weak roleplay then I would have to stop, as I've already said that I'm staying null on people who give nothing away via roleplay (I'm mostly thinking of Damdred, and possibly KSC, although I think this is just how he actually plays) at least for a little while longer. But it isn't.

He has roleplaying posts:

"Hello dearies, I am here to solve the game x" (#401)
"I am your only hope, sweetie. I will vote whoever I damn please when I want to because you are all bad." (#404)
"A good strategy, except we won't mislynch because I am the best player of all time. Not to worry QT." (#499)

But, crucially, he also has some posts that at least purport to be more serious comment on the game. However, they all end up nowhere. He prods HTS for trying to get people onto the Ruxx wagon (#495), says he doesn't know what to make of my big WoT (#497), says that all JJ has done is to "post asinine Wots" (#498) - which, by the way, I don't agree with because at that point JJ had already started making more substantive posts (see, for example, #482), and asks what Lord Tolkien had said about him (#571). The sum of his posts has been to try and soft scum myself, HTS and JJ, but without committing to an actual read, or even really giving serious thoughts on any of us at all.

The sum of all of this is that VA appears to be trying to do as little as possible, whilst also trying to cover that with some half-assed roleplay (ie "of course I've been useless, I'm emulating X who is useless"). But that doesn't work when you slip and actually make posts that look much more like they're coming straight from VA, unfiltered by roleplay.

The only thing that gives me pause is his last post, which says "I have no thoughts on this game right now bye." (#650). I wouldn't have expected mafia to make such a scummy post to sit in amongst such a small filter. But I think the answer is that it's more weak roleplay attempt.


VA as town, plays like this. All the time. The person he is, is marvellosity, a player you have had practically zero exposure to I believe.

Even as recently as a few months ago, I tried to read VA on a tryhard = scum meta but it was in another game that JAT and marv (who are two very reliable town players) themselves looked at his meta as "town = gives few fucks if any, and no agenda" and "scum = gives more fucks and has an agenda usually"

VA is always going to have a short filter, and most of his work when I've played with him is meta-based - he reads filters and reads past games - he does work but you won't see it in his filter. You think you're anti-spam - you've made that point before, he's basically you x10 in that respect.

Right now, he's nullish. I've seen some of the poking, prodding, I think the follow-through from him is key, he has said in other games where if he has nothing to contribute, he won't contribute instead of faking it, the latter of which is scum agenda. And that's where that post #650 you cite might make him town. I am interested to see if he comments on any of the recent points on ruXxar, you or Tubesock (the current top wagons) but where he tends to post more is based on night actions and off evidence where a mafia has already flipped.

Your case on him is towny from the sense you don't know him at all, nor the player he's emulating. I doubt it's accurate but you are certainly not scum for it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 16:00 GMT
#845
I probably should have reread before I asked but whatever at this point.
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 16:01 GMT
#846
OWS, right now I'm at ruXxar/LT/Tubesock/yamato.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 16:03 GMT
#847
Lt/Rux/Tubesock?

Doesn't seem like a feasible team to me atm.
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 16:05 GMT
#848
I typically try to find the scum individually D1, get a flip or info from a VCA and then work from there. I don't think in teams D1 unless there's some strong correlation right now between people that I'm not seeing.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 16:06 GMT
#849
I should have said that top scum reads are those four as of now, not necessarily that they were a team I was unclear there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 16:07 GMT
#850
Leaving the office now, but I'll be back after dinner for sure.

EoD being at midnight, I should be around, but I also haven't been feeling well physically or mentally for reasons unrelated to this game. Hopefully better after I return home tomorrow. >_<
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 16:09 GMT
#851
On August 21 2015 01:05 Half the Sky wrote:
I typically try to find the scum individually D1, get a flip or info from a VCA and then work from there. I don't think in teams D1 unless there's some strong correlation right now between people that I'm not seeing.


Sensible enough I suppose.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 16:20 GMT
#852
lol this game hurts.
Retired.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 16:22 GMT
#853
Here's the thing I don't understand about RuxXar's play at the moment. In Himalayas he replaced in and then carried scum (along with HolyFlare). He posted lots of long cases and he generally managed to appear quite towny. This game, he seems to be exactly the opposite. I guess that maybe at the start he was trying to emulate someone, but he's still the leading wagon with only a few hours left on the vote. I would have thought that at some point a few hours ago he would have re-engaged with the game, in an effort to stave off his lynch. Does anyone have any insight into this? He was in Gaiden, right? What do the people who were in Gaiden with him think now?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 16:33 GMT
#854
OWS can you list some of the games you have played in before, so I can read them please?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 20 2015 16:43 GMT
#855
On August 21 2015 01:33 Fidei86 wrote:
OWS can you list some of the games you have played in before, so I can read them please?


I've got a (mostly) updated list of games I've played in with links to all of my filters in my profile, for your convenience.
Retired.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 20 2015 16:45 GMT
#856
I don't get it. People want to leave Yamato, CheZinU and Kelsier in the game. Why?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2015 16:50 GMT
#857
I have a read. I think Geript is mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 20 2015 16:52 GMT
#858
On August 21 2015 01:45 geript wrote:
I don't get it. People want to leave Yamato, CheZinU and Kelsier in the game. Why?


because i'm just too pretty
Zerg for Life
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 20 2015 16:57 GMT
#859
On August 21 2015 01:50 yamato77 wrote:
I have a read. I think Geript is mafia.

Alright, you're going to have to explain this one to me, because Geript has been one of the towniest players in the game to me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 20 2015 17:02 GMT
#860
Greetings to all and may your soul be merry oj this joyous day.

The bank has opened its doors so you may have a look at the books. Because the bank has kept a list and it is now on public display.

Damdreds great friends ows and geript have received a total of 10 cheznoes this erases geripts loan payment and has kept him out of debt! Aren't friends great both of these guys are receiving alignment presents hopefully my umbrella is big enough to protect all three.

HTS and Shining have both received 5 cheznoes they are able to multiply there earnings soon. But no presents tonight I'm afraid.

Sadly there are some people who haven't invested in the bank nor want anything to do with them.

Ruxxar is just so mean and not fun what use would he have for a bank in his dastardly plans.

Chez the most fun has sank into the heart of despair and darkness and eyes are made of fire

FF is just so sad and lonely maybe the damdred rule misfired? Doubt seeps in what is a damdred to do he might investbine day further notes must be taken.

For now that's all you get the bank will open again soon be patient and say those deposits
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