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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
Just give up already. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On August 20 2015 03:19 ruXxar wrote: You're never going to lynch me this game. Just give up already. do i smell a challonge? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
It's not a challenge if it's impossible to achieve. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On August 19 2015 21:49 Fidei86 wrote: Okay, time for some real talk here. This isn't me impersonating someone, this is just me: 1. Don't play mafia when you're drunk. I basically just skimmed the threads last night, and missed most of it apparently. 2. The set-up of this game seems to me to be inherently mafia favoured. As town, everyone is mostly just excited to troll whoever's name they pulled up for all of the things that that person is perceived to do badly. I did exactly that last night. But (I) that distracts from finding mafia, (II) it allows mafia to blend in by just carrying along with the jester-like banter and, most importantly, (III) it is hard enough to spot slips or mafia tells in someone when they are just playing normally, let alone when they are impersonating someone else. 3. Following on from 2, I think that the game has to very quickly move towards the stage where town say "okay, screwing around pretending to be X or Y was fun for a day, but it's time to engage try-hard mode now." If we don't, we're going to wander aimlessly towards a lynch deadline with no mafia being pressured, no reads being forced out and generally no progress being made whatsoever. 4. If people continue to insist on posting "in character" much further, I think that is good reason to start scum reading them. 5. 3 and 4 only apply for people who are keen to win. There's nothing wrong with joining the game just to have fun goofing around as someone else. But I'm definitely in the 'tryhard' category, and will be playing as such. 6. I was accused last night by Ritoky of basically doing a bad parody of the person I was assigned. I plead guilty to that, for sure. The fact is, I have played a couple of games with the person I got, and I think they are a good player and they seem to be a nice person. But I don't really *know* them. But there's a broader point here - for newer players (like me) it's hard enough to try and work out whether someone is mafia or town based on their own play, let alone on when that person is being impersonated by someone else. Yeah, if you've played like 30 games with, say, Ritoky, you'd probably be well enough versed in his meta to guess whether someone impersonating him was town or mafia. But I haven't. I don't have any reads yet because I can't identify who people are impersonating and whether or not those impersonations are good or bad and whether or not the things I think that are scum tells are actually just exaggerated parodies (case in point is my crappy attempt at parody last night). It also doesn't help that I haven't played with most of you before, and those of you who I would claim to 'know' better (TT, HTS, Damdred) are all in heavy role-play mode atm. All of the above has led me to the point where I've settled in my mind a little bit more clearly what I am looking for, and I'll try and go back over everything that has gone before this evening. The point of this post was just to get these thoughts out there, because I think they're important. And yes, I do recognise that a long self-analysis meta post can be a scum sign. Hopefully those of you who have played town with me will recognise that I always over-explain/over-think, but also that I like to share my thought processes all the time, even when they aren't super helpful, as that way people can better follow and interpret what I say and do later on. Quick comments: 1) You spend an inordinate amount of time explaining how you are a tryhard and how people masking their play as someone else's is negatively impacting your gameplay. First, doesn't this only add credence to the RNG lynch? Secondly, why did you spend so much time explaining how tryhard you are and none of the time actually BEING a tryhard and finding mafia. 2) You don't really address the case against you at all, dismissing it as primarily illegitimate when it is quite legitimate. You actually help it by saying this game has diminished reads and re-inforces RNG as a good reason; but still you don't answer tubesock's great question. Avoidance of a very good point on multiple occaisions, one of which you were clearly sober for. Overall, this post accomplishes nothing other than complaining, it pushes town forward in no way and only re-inforces my read. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On August 19 2015 23:59 Half the Sky wrote: Fidei, reads when you can. Preferably sober. (Also Fidei I will stick to heavy role mode because this is fun...but my reads should be clear enough even in character speak. I wont refuse to make an argument in my own words though if it does help others. And I know that if I need to step out of character if it's the difference in getting Mafia lynched, then of course. If it wasn't obvious already the person I got has a very different playmate than me, but I'll still give my reads.) This justification of play seems really out of place. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On August 20 2015 03:27 ruXxar wrote: It's not a challenge if it's impossible to achieve. ![[image loading]](http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/animaljam/images/d/d2/Challenge-accepted.png/revision/latest?cb=20140928111255) Reasoning: the impossible dreams are the best ones to chase. Which reminds me. 1) Anyone who uses MEEEEEEETA this game is retarded. true story 2) Wave should be modkilled for talking about THIS GAME with me out of game. Though fortunately I was spaced out and wasn't listening, so maybe not. Also, I have a totally out of game meta read that he's [REDACTED]. I wonder. Can anyone fill in that gap? 3) | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On August 19 2015 08:59 Chezinu wrote: Btw Dam is mafia as well, he isnt funny enough with his damdred rule read. There have been a variety of things that have really bugged me about Chezinu. Chez is the type of guy that personality games were made for. He'll get in character and try to be the role. Like I've been able to recognize pretty much anyone who's posted in character (or in the least had a good guess), but I can't really figure out who Chez is even pretending to be. For chez, that's pretty odd. Chezinu isn't really trolling as himself and he isn't roleplaying. On top of that, Chezinu I think would be super interested in lynching Fecalfeast. Damdred is obviously trying to play as Chezinu. There's no doubt there. But he is in no way trying to see if the Chezinu Rule is true by proxy. Considering the fact that the Chezinu rule has never, ever been wrong. It's always located scum. I find it hard to believe that town!Chez wouldn't be interested in the slightest in trying to lynch Fecalfeast. On top of that, Chez has voted twice so far. From what I recall from playing with him, he tends to do this far more as mafia. Like, he made an early vote in my game, but it sat around on Trfel for a bit. But here's he's voting for not weird reasons and not good reasons. He popped from ritoky onto damdred which essentially opposite sides of matters. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
I don't know how many other players are this narcissistic or deep in the wifom, but I am. Although I doubt "ritoky" is a notable enough player to be put into the game as a role; there is still the chance. So I have been trying to see anyone acting in the "ritoky" role, or what I feel would be someone parodying me. I am doing this because if I were making a game with a "ritoky" role, I would probably make said role a mafia one. Looking through the thread no one is really playing with the true lack of mental capabilities to be a "ritoky", the closest thing is the pictures and gifs in every one of JJ's posts. Thus JJ is the closest thing to a "ritoky" I have spotted, and leans mafia. "ritoky" could just not be in the game or could be hiding in the shadows though too. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On August 20 2015 03:34 Lord Tolkien wrote: Reasoning: the impossible dreams are the best ones to chase. Which reminds me. 1) Anyone who uses MEEEEEEETA this game is retarded. true story Then what do you think of geripts post about Chezinu right after yours? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On August 20 2015 03:57 WaveofShadow wrote: I have decent reason to believe geript is town. At the very least would not even remotely lynch today. You've done a lot of trying to assign people to characters, but this is only the 2nd read of yours I can recall. Do you have reads? What are they? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On August 20 2015 03:56 ritoky wrote: Then what do you think of geripts post about Chezinu right after yours? All I see is META META MEEEEEEETA | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
Which would make you think it is SHITTY SHITTY SHIIIITTTTTYYYY right? Does that say anything about his alignment to you? Or chez's alignment? | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On August 20 2015 04:33 Fecalfeast wrote: ritokyhand can you fully explain the RNG method you used with none of the numbers as variables? TLDR: It's a glass of cum. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
He lived away from town which housed the mafia and town those monsters of blue and red and all he wanted to do was live forever. Geript his friend would hold him tight because this damdred doesn't light things or poison things. He gives things and lives. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Damdred
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