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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 19:13 GMT
#391
See, here's how our games go rayn.

I play like trash. You call me scum.
Scum somehow manages to fuck it up and look even worse than me, and then we lynch the scum.

I'm just waiting for you to realize who the real scum is. I'm sure you'll find out before the end of day.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 19:17 GMT
#392
It's like opposite magnets.

You want to hunt scum, I play like trash. Bam, instant attraction.
I don't blame you for it. It's a good trait to have.
If we lived in a world where shitty play = scum then you'd be the #1 scum hunter of all time.

Except we don't and town a lot of times look a lot worse than scum who actually take care to not mess shit like this up.

Anyway.. I'll get back to playing the game *shrug*
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 20:27 GMT
#408
On August 12 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar is there a reason i should call you town at this point?


Yes, I've been trying to solve the game.
I've been throwing scum on some, asked for opinions, and pointed out things that I didn't like.
I've been having some original reads that was not sheeping others, not afraid to make myself look bad and besides the one post where I said "I read his filter etc etc", which was a terrible post made on a false premise, everything else I've done adds up to town trying to find mafia.

I've done more than some people that I'm sure you are aware of, but I'm not going to compare myself yet.
If I'm mafia you'll be able to find mafia motivation behind my actions(which unfortunately there are none).
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 20:38 GMT
#412
On August 12 2015 04:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 04:13 ruXxar wrote:
See, here's how our games go rayn.

I play like trash. You call me scum.
Scum somehow manages to fuck it up and look even worse than me, and then we lynch the scum.

I'm just waiting for you to realize who the real scum is. I'm sure you'll find out before the end of day.


I don't get how you can be so passive in your actions if you're so sure who scum is. Can you give us a few reads besides me and hopeless? Clearly you townread rayn by now. I'd agree on that.

But I don't know how you were able to say you liked Palmar when he didn't even play and has just been doing the Palmar thingy of not doing anything on purpose? Then you said that you didn't say he's town if I recall correctly.

On top of it you put the conditional that one of me or hopeless is scum but you can't explain why it has to be one.

Then you say you liked somebody's posts while rest of town discussed which of me or hopeless you actually meant (didn't see you eager to drop input on that either).

Then you said you somehow found me better.

You accused me first and then asked questions.

You accused me but didn't pursue it when I dropped stuff for you to pick up on (like me saying I have fun lynching town), you didn't really change your opinion on me in the process of me calling you scum.

Generally in our conversation you lacked adaptation to what we were talking about. It was still all about Palmar and Artanis while not considering the accusations I was bringing against you. They are just as worth of analysis to a townie that isn't mafia, yet not for you, and that's scummy.

General tone of your posts has been to keep it minimalistic, revealing as little as possible while trying to keep the appereance of your original reasoning (me not pushing Art and pushing Palm).

I think this sums up why you are a very viable lynch for today.


1) I'm not sure who scum are. If I knew then you'd see me tunneling them to hell and back.
I have some ideas, and I'm willing to explore them and see how people react when attacked.

2) Reads :

Town:

- Rayn
- Damdred
- VE gets a daypass.
- RS gets a daypass.

Scum:

-Trfel
- Vivax / hopeless. Leaning more towards hopeless.

3) It doesn't have to be ohnly one, but I had a feeling that at least one of you are scum.
Like I said, attacking palmar for reasons other than him being scummy is rubbing me the wrong way.

Hopeless said it would be "funny to lynch him"
You gave some reason for why you would lynch palmar and not artanis that I still don't understand(waiting for a re-explanation).

4) I thought it was obvious when I replied to damdred, I didn't realize that it was unclear that I was talking about you.

5) See #4

6) Yes I accused you because of #3, suddenly you both seemed to zero in on palmar for whatever unknown reason. It was suspicious to me.

7) The question wasn't for you, I had other questions to determine your alignment.

8) I must've missed the accusations, I was busy responding to rayn.
You can repost them if I didn't answer them.

9) If something is unclear, ask. When I sit on the phone it's a damn chore to write big posts, so I write small posts.
When I'm home after work I get on the pc and can write more indepth.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 20:43 GMT
#415
On August 12 2015 05:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, Ruxx is town. Stop tunneling him.


No, let him keep going.
I think it's healthy for him to get it out of his system.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 20:47 GMT
#419
Artanis, what do you think of vivax explanation here?
I don't understand what he meant, can you explain it?

On August 12 2015 01:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:41 ruXxar wrote:
I don't understand why you don't want to push artsnis. Explain why it makes you comfortable when he does nothing even if he's scummy?

yes this Vivax. I also want an answer to this.


My current benchmarks for him are Imperial (mafia) and Guardians (town). Simply put, for him it's indicative if he tryhards or not. If I want him to tryhard or else, he will tryhard, if he's mafia. I want him to feel comfortable doing nothing if he's mafia, cause then I can see if he's mafia.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 20:54 GMT
#429
We should lynch hopeless rider.

He's like 99% mafia imo.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 20:56 GMT
#431
On August 12 2015 01:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 01:23 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:21 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote:
I'm also strongly in favour of starting a wagon on Palmar for no particular reason other than that he takes strong pride in his play and only blames himself when he gets lynched, nevertheless calling everybody an idiot who is voting for him.

Day 1 is mostly better for a show than for the reads and a tryharding Palmar is always a good show, and on top of that informative.


Hold your horses. What happened to attains?


I checked the OP. Rules don't state I have to discuss only one guy at a time for the entire day.

This guy read the OP. Top town


Was this a sarcastic comment?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 20:58 GMT
#434
On August 12 2015 05:57 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i guess i am dead then.


?


hesabill
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 22:48 GMT
#504
Not sure if mafia are defending me or trying to push me or if it's town on town fighting over whether i'm mafia or not.

I'm not going to complain that people are defending me, but I'm curious of what they're trying to accomplish. (Pocketing?)

Rayn seems adamant on lynching me which is nothing new.
Vivax seems way more confident than he was in gaiden.
A lot of confidence from artanis, I'm pleasantly surprised by the hard stances he takes.
Damdred as always is right on the money. I feel like damdred and rsoul currently have the best reads on me on TL right now, I'm scared for when I roll scum.

I think hopeless has a very high chance to flip scum.
I think trfel could possibly be scum, but this is sort of a weak read.
Chezinu has been like meeeh, talking about out of game stuff? i dno.

VE is a curious case, I didn't like his early post on hurricane names.
The redeeming case for him was his post on why trfel was scum, which is why I sorta liked him.
He doesn't have many reads though.
I'd like to hear who he thinks is scum and who's town.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 22:58 GMT
#510
On August 12 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geez ruxxar i thought you think vivax is mafia.


I'm getting mixed signals.

I didn't like his reason for not pushing artanis but wanting to push palmar.
I don't understand the logic behind not wanting to push scum, but oh well.
He is pretty forward and eager, so that's towny behavior.

I'd like a general reads list from vivax of who he thinks is scum and town.
I don't feel like I have a good overview of where his reads are at right now(except me scum).

.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 23:03 GMT
#514
Deconduo is giving me strange vibes.
Not sure what's up with him.

Talks a lot about setup and asks a lot of questions and doesn't take many hard stances.
Had an easy parrot in calling me town after artanis already called me town.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 23:10 GMT
#516
Rayn, do you think mafia would be more inclined to defend or push me in this situation?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 23:12 GMT
#517
EBWOP: with the premise that I'm town.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 23:16 GMT
#518
@Deconduo can I get some reads from you?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 23:48 GMT
#521
On August 12 2015 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure i am not.
If not enough because ruxxar's main defense revolves around "lol you so bad rayn" instead of actually attacking the argument.


Attack it how?
I'm not going to defend or try to angle my statement into something it's not.
I explained what happened and admitted that I made a statement based on a post I thought I hadn't seen before.
Then I moved on and am now trying to solve the game.

Please answer my question to you rayn.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 11 2015 23:52 GMT
#522
Oh and yeah you're bad because you're wrong, again.

I think you should just take your natural read of me and flip it around and you'll get my true alignment.

100% accuracy every time.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 12 2015 00:20 GMT
#525
On August 12 2015 09:11 prplhz wrote:
my thoughts are that i'm not going to read anything anyway because i just tried but i'm too tired to make sense on things


You're bit going to vote for anyone?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 12 2015 15:06 GMT
#584
On August 12 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
On August 12 2015 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i totally forgot purplehaze is in the game. There is something he'll probably do if he is mafia. I don't think he has done anything alignment indicative yet.

I am amused how can people trust a tone read over actual post-based evidence that a guy is clearly just fucking pulling shit out of his ass. I am sad.


i know what you're keying in on, rayn

you're saying how can the guy have different reactions to the same post, whether he's forgotten it or not? and as i said, the whole flavor of his posting is somewhat different this game so i'm not as sure on it here as i was in desert, but i still wouldn't lynch him today. lol i call it tone but it's actually behavior/personality-based and yes i do tend to put more value on a read that considers overarching play over one or two consistencies

especially when being inconsistent isn't outside the norm for ruxxy :/

My case i posted is in fact 50% bullshit just because i just realized i misread one of his posts where he says "a post about artanis" into "artanis' post".

So what he is doing is he is agreeing that i am right when he SHOULD know i am pushing something he hasn't even actually said or done. Like rsoultin, if someone now made a case on you based on "you called rayn town then now you suddenly call him mafia for no reason" would your response be:
1) "i have not called rayn mafia" or,
2) "yeah i did woopiedoo"

????


I noticed this later but didn't care to correct you.

Now can you answer the question I asked you:
Do you think scum are more likely to sheep your push or try to defend me?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 12 2015 15:22 GMT
#589
On August 13 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You notice alot of stuff "later on" and "don't really care to correct people" or "elaborate well".
Like if you think this is anything but ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE town play then you are just [redacted]...
And i do not believe that, so that makes you mafia.


Welcome to my town game.
I would've thought you'd have a better read on me after 3 games.

When I'm scum I spend up to 30 minutes composing a simple post, making sure I don't blotch what I'm about to say, proof reading, polishing, re evaluating my word usage.

Rsoul can attest to this.

I hate that way of playing.
I have to be mr el logico, all the time.
Fuck that's boring.

I enjoy being able to say whatever I want and don't case for the consequences.

I'm not afraid to get lynched by you rayn.
I don't have any scum mates to let down when I die.
And even if you manage to do it, It'll haunt you even more knowing you're wrong yet again.

You should listen to the people that know me better.
They're making your job real easy.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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