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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 06:01 deconduo wrote: Like tell people not to claim their hurricane name. Cos apparently that's pretty useful. Something that has to do with scumhunting preferably. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Artanis let's be real here: Do you ignore everyhitng i pointed out just because his response is "lol you are bad rayn"? I think you're tunneling and that you're wrong. I'm confident in that he's town and nothing you've pointed out in your filter has made me think otherwise. That he backtracked and contradicted himself does not make him scum. It just means he's playing a bad game. I can change my opinion on something if I reread too. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 06:09 deconduo wrote: Meh. Only VE has looked particularly scummy to me as I've pointed out. Everyone else is townish or neutral or absent (hi prpl). Is that just because of the storm name thing and his reaction to you pointing it out? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: that was not what he did though based on his OWN words. You don't need to state that you reread something to reread it. He went back to quote something, then gives the opposite read of what he did at the time iirc. I don't think that makes him scum in the slightest, and it doesn't weigh up to the to me overwhelming evidence that he is town. Please refute my arguments on VE and explain to me why you think he's town. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 06:13 deconduo wrote: Yah. Your post on him is more of a meta thing than anything else, but I'll wait for his response before making any more judgements on that end. I don't think they're necessarily reliant on meta; the Vivax read is more so since I exempted scumreading him for the same reason, it's more a general scummy thing to do (throwing dirt on someone without reasons) The part about not reading the game is also not meta related at all, so I don't think my VE read is based on meta. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fine: 1) VE jsut had a game where he wanted to kill the shit out of me because he felt like i was "pocketing him again" as he had townread me when i was scum for two games in a row. You can call that "fearmongering", i call this "similar approach". 2) There are several instances where VE has not been reading the thread properly, like in the last game he wanted to kill me 36h later i had already flipped. case closed? Here is game: http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1994 I'm not reading an entire game but I'll take your word for it. ##Unvote I'll try rereading Ruxxar again but I really don't think he's scum still. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax can you explain these people why ruxxar is mafia because i am apparently incapable of doing so, Palmar doesn't give any fucks, rsoultin idk, Artanis does not read. I don't know who else to go to. It might be because you keep saying I don't read without actually explaining what I'm apparently reading wrongly. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i am trying to be as clear as possible: ruxxar says one of Vivax/Hopeless is mafia Vivax makes a post. He says one of them "looks a bit better" He pushes Vivax (with questioning, but it is essentially the same thing because if he thought Hopeless was mafia then he would Q him instead) also see green People call him out for the read because it is not clear who is he even talking about I ask him "which one does look a bit better" (because i have just voted for hopeless) He says random other things I tell him to answer clearly He says "Vivax looks better" I ask why do you question Vivax then instead of Hopeless? He says, "because i thought this green post made was by artanis. I fucked up" I ask him "why did you then push Vivax based on the SAME post. Like if that post is from Artanis (as you thought) why are you pushing Vivax for that post? dudeeeesssS???? You have proven that what he has been saying makes absolutely no sense, is contradictory and all that stuff and is certainly not logical in the slightest. I'm simply saying I don't think that makes him mafia and that I think he's town because of tone, effort, determination and seeing some posts I never see mafia make (one of which I've pointed out before). | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: It falls into the "i am changing my story" category. Town does not do that. I've done that before as town myself I'm pretty sure. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 14:40 Trfel wrote: Why do you say this? I don't see ruXxar being excited about anything, or eager to investigate/push/discuss anything. And I also don't see ruXxar looking ahead and being productive like he says he will, like you townread him for doing (as of the time you made this post, anyway). Please explain. I see Ruxx as being eager to post and continuously explaining his situation, fighting every argument being brought against him (in however poor way he's doing so) and attempting to contribute. A better way of putting it is that the what that he's been doing has been bad (and he has admitted to it as well) but the how he's doing it is so town that I'm very confident that he's town. The words I used were poorly chosen to make this clear but I could name examples of what I mean if you really want me to. I already put up an example earlier in my initial reads. Is this the only reason you're scumreading me? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: i totally forgot purplehaze is in the game. There is something he'll probably do if he is mafia. I don't think he has done anything alignment indicative yet. I am amused how can people trust a tone read over actual post-based evidence that a guy is clearly just fucking pulling shit out of his ass. I am sad.  I would sigbet you that rux is town but that'd both probably be against the rules and.. I might look like a drunk rager, but all I want is a little love and a hug.  | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote: thoughts on condor, then? or prp lol >< Deconduo is weird. His posts haven't had any focus. Actually he might be my preferred lynch candidate for today but something really silly is making me hedge, which is this: On August 12 2015 06:01 deconduo wrote: Like tell people not to claim their hurricane name. Cos apparently that's pretty useful. The arrogance in that even when he hasn't really done much leads me to believe he actually believes he's contributing, so meh. Prp is still null to me. yes. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 12 2015 23:29 rsoultin wrote: heh. kinda weak, artie if you two just yes and no back and forth you'll be beaten with more than just a wet noodle Weak would also be the way I'd describe their posting so far, but it doesn't really pull me any which way yet. Also, you'd enjoy beating us regardless so just get on with it already. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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raynpelikoneet - clear town, detailed evaluations even if I think they're wrong on ruxx, and his early strong townread on me is something I don't think he would've done as mafia. Trfel - After reading his filter I really don't know. What irks me is that he seems to just be going for the lowest hanging fruit (Chez, Ruxx, Deconduo) and his (presumably) reason to scumread me felt weak and without critical thought, and I have higher expectations than that for Trfel. He's also been inactive for Trfel standards. What makes me reluctant is that tonewise he does feel very much like townTrfel. He feels confident, but not overconfident in his reads in a way that I've come to know of townTrfel. Rsoultin - Probably town? Some of the uncertainty in her posts feels weird as I'm used to her pushing her thoughts strongly, Rayn had a nice post on it earlier and she's been the same way with Ruxx. On the other hand she's come forth with a bunch of her own opinions and there's plenty of smileys to go around. Damdred - I currently have no idea. Need more time. ruXxar - Already detailed. Palmar - Has given some reads, has not given reasons for them but has been so blatant about that fact that there would basically be no scum motivation to make them, but he's done so little that it's not much to go off. prplhz - Hasn't done anything. Deconduo - On August 12 2015 23:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Deconduo is weird. His posts haven't had any focus. Actually he might be my preferred lynch candidate for today but something really silly is making me hedge, which is this: The arrogance in that even when he hasn't really done much leads me to believe he actually believes he's contributing, so meh. VisceraEyes - Despite claiming that I meta'd him (when my points were actually all things I'd generally consider mafia traits) Rayn pointed out that he's done them as town so I'm not left with much. Cockyness suggests town. Hopeless1der - Useless and doesn't care. Chezinu - ?????????, he's called out Ruxxar before it was cool (after Vivax, but before Rayn) and discussed the Chezinu rule a bunch. He's made a cryptic post or two but they seem to be more setup related than reads related. Not a clue. Vivax - On August 12 2015 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because he's too upfront with all his opinions and pretty carefree. This post especially How he's so open about cutting the enemy of his enemy slack for that reason is something I don't think scum Vivax would feel comfortable to say. Something that worries me about my own reads is that a lot of it is tone based. Though I'm very confident in the Ruxx one it's much less so on other players. Feedback on any you agree/disagree with is appreciated. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On August 13 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote: mostly okay with your reads, artie lol >< i'd say hope is more than a coinflip, though. he was pretty eh as cop this last game, too, but he had reads right out the gate. not so here palmar i refuse to read when he's doing nothing -_- i have enough trouble when he's actually posting prp also is more of a scumlean for me cause doing nothing for him is actually alignment indicative not sure what damdy's up to but i'm sticking to my earlier read on him lol >< wouldn't be the first time he afkd Problem is I've seen both Hope and Prpl play shitty games as town. Between the two, I think I agree that I'd prefer to lynch Prpl because he does actually play more often as town rather than as mafia. | ||
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On August 13 2015 02:39 Vivax wrote: Hopeless, prplhz, Chez and Deconduo are the guys I often end up scumreading when mafia isn't among them and simply does stuff. They are extremely lurky and give very little information as both alignments. Chez you can read to some extent cause as town he will try to solve the game in one way or another, mixed in with some of his notorious trolling, as opposed to the pure trolling and chaos from mafia chez. prplhz and hopeless deserve their own category. If they're town they're good lynch bait. As mafia they have the advantage of that reputation and are allowed to stay under the radar without raising much suspicion. RASPUTINA. You have been pushing these two lynch baits. Hopeless earlier and now prplhz. Do you want the day to be a policy lynch day? Deconduo seems more readable this game, I actually look forward to him giving us a more complete view of the accusations on ruxxar, and I would like an explanation from him regarding VE's overraction to his soft claim being called out as a reason for him being mafia. I don't think that's entirely true for prp; his scumgame is a lot weaker than his towngame's potential is at least, though it is true that he has towngames where he does nothing. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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I'll lynch Hopeless I guess. ##Vote Hopeless1der | ||
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