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On August 07 2015 07:06 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok. Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL OK good. What did you think of this post ? On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. Ugh this post. So much try hard, I get tired just reading it. #1 scum so far. ##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe. My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.
Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta: If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win. If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.
This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town. Not really sure what to make of this post. I want to immediately throw it into the same pile of Cake and ruxxar doing these self metas that just don't sit well with me. Like yes, meta can be used to find scum but you have to play the game, as well. This is a really big fluffy post where iGrok tells us what he thinks he does as town as scum. These always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Like obviously if you know you do xyz as scum and ABC as town, then you know enough to try and consciously change said meta. He also reaffirms his stance on LAL. One thing I did notice was he set that post up to say that in no way could he be scum here. We don't have 3p so he can't claim that like he would as scum. No vigi shots or medic saves to draw. He indirectly painted a scenario where there is no way he can be scum just because it's an all vanilla game and he can't do his normal scum things. I'm not sure if that was intentional but if he's scum, that's a very interesting way to self-meta without giving away your alignment.
OK wanted to know if that was comparable to ruxxar / cake or no. Your remark about him setting up his meta in a way he cannot be mafia is super interesting.
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On August 07 2015 05:36 Damdred wrote:
Sorry rayn I didn't mean to react that way just been at the hospital all day with my dad while,he's in surgery and got upset that's on me I'm not really offended or dislike playing with you,
Sorry =X hope that goes OK
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On August 07 2015 06:08 ruXxar wrote:To summmarize my dislike of igrok: #1) Lynch all lurkers attitude. #2) his push on rsoultin is just silly, reminds me of n00bkings push on rels tbh. He voted rsoultin in in his 2nd post, and kept pushing some really silly agenda for why she's town. He put a vote on rsoultin first thing he did, then tried to find arguments to support his votes later, instead of going the other way around. His case on rsoul is so bad, smells like scum long way. Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 07:42 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 07:21 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 07:16 Damdred wrote:
I'm like 89% that ruxxor is town.
Rsoultin I kinda think might be town need more time on that but I wouldn't lynch her today anyway. igrok igrok talk to me about igrok/ksc rayn prob town dunnae bout scott but don't really care right now lol >< What about myself and KSC? What are your reasons for finding rayne town? ye, reading is a skill ^^ Sure, lets read through your posts (man I wish I had filters). Paraphrased, emphasis is mine. 1) I will completely ignore this game until tomorrow, or at minimum a few hours2) Gif. 3) teehee @ damdred 4) I agree that damdred is town, now I will be lazy and disappear.5) Damdred is totally town. 6) Ruxx probably too. 7) Inside joke with ruxx 8) Fluff 9) I may vote iGrok because he's focused on activity. Now I will "engage lazy!soul mode"10) iGrok is tunneling an arbitrary thing, which might be scummy, even though the reasoning is sound. Also fluff. 11) Ruxx, lets be townbuds. KSC, you aren't tunneling anyone yet, why not? 12) Fluff 13) More Fluff with Ruxx 14) Ruxx, you post a lot. iGrok, your lectures aren't game-relevant. 15) @Rayne, I think Ruxx is town. 16) @rayne, sarcastic non-answer as to if I'm scum 17) Lol I'm a lurker lynch me 18) igrok talk to me about you & ksc, also rayne is town. 19) Fluff 20) KSC is ignoring me 21) iGrok is mean for telling Ruxx to stop triple posting. 22) I agree with damdred that KSC is too agreeable. I don't like iGrok/KSC 23) rayne is townie because he's probing, KSC is mafia because he isn't aggro 24) @iGrok, Regard post #18, learn to read. I'll stop here, since this is when I started reading back.
So, after posting multiple times that she is too lazy and will not be in the thread, Tina contributes nothing aside from naked reads, and when pressured by me for reasons, says "lol reading is hard". Reading isn't hard, coming up with reasons for naked reads are. There's nothing supporting your reasoning. You're fluff-posting. As of right now, Tina is the lynch today. I don't have a read on ruxx, but even if I did, day 1 is 100% lynch lurker, and active lurkers are the worst kind. ##Vote: rsoultinRayne, you're my deputy, I know Ruxx is frustrating right now but that's okay, he's actually contributing things, even if they are somewhat spammy. #3) Posted another shitty reason for why we should vote for rsoul, try to understand this one if you can: Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:43 iGrok wrote:On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok. Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL Its not me being wary of anything. We're in day 1 with 0 information. RS was a 50% scumread at the time. Thats a 100% guaranteed 50%. Easily the best chance we're going to get. I'm 100% behind lynching RS today. #4) Tried to bury me with lies Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 04:09 iGrok wrote:
Horrible because its false, not because its particularly illogical. Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 04:13 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 04:08 iGrok wrote:
I was the leading vote (not anymore).
That's horrible logic. Not at the point I switched. Here's how votes went between you and edgar: I vote IGrok Edgar votes iGrok Rels votes Edgar Rayn votes Edgar Rsoultin votes Edgar I vote Edgar Actually reading his filter it looks even worse than I thought. I changed my mind, I want to vote for iGrok again. ##Vote igrok
OK that's pretty good. Especially I don't understand AT ALL what he means at #3. Plus, he said he liked the train on EAP and never switched, but he's attacking you for switching from him.
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OK going to sleep. Believing in the town!ruxxar more and more, and that makes me pretty happy. (=
Believing in mafia!igrok more and more too. Never changed his vote all game even though rsoul cannot be classified as active lurker now, even though he thought EAP was scummy, even though he pushed ruxxar when ruxxar switched.
Shining is town for me now. Don't know what to think of cake.
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Oh and let's bring back this magical feature. igrok, this is dedicated to your LAL policy.
Useless people: A useful list toi have
edgar
yamato
scott
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On August 07 2015 07:32 The Shining wrote:
When there are players like yamato who roll scum and quit games(not saying he's completely done this here yet but he's borderline for me) and drive by, non-contributive scummy posters like Edgar and huge question marks like Scott, things like this take a bit of a backseat.
100% agree. If voting was now he would not even be in my top 3 lynches.
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Yo edgar. Here is why I'm voting you:
On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup.
Going to sleep now so I'll see what you have posted tomorrow.
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On August 07 2015 15:48 ruXxar wrote:
Right now there's no pressure on scum to do anything.
I'm leading in the votes, and for scum it's going to be Christmas if town mis-lynches me.
It's 3-3! Plus, we're lynching one of those guys if they don't all step up by deadline:
Useless people: A useful list toi have
edgar
yamato
scott
Amazing how none of those three managed to get out of this list while I was sleeping.
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@edgar what is your read on rsoultin ?
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On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions
I know what is ruxxar's opinion, but I never see what his "your" opinion ? All you did was sheep ruxxar's post.
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Before you go: do you think rsoul is scum ?
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Why did you answer my second question but ignored the first one ?
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It doesn't make sense.
1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummy
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing
2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynch
Edgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch:
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote:
On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions
3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynch
And now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch:
On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you [rsoul] were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon.
So he believes at the same time:
- ruxxar is scummy
- ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch
- rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch
This guy is mafia.
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Plus:
- he's not talking to anyone except rsoul
- he's not talking about anything else in the game
- he answered my second question but not he first, maybe he doesn't want to say too mych that could incriminate him
- another excuse to lurk and survived the day with 9 posts
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Plus his first post was soooo bad. In particular, it had a lot of different subjects in it, so edgar took a long time preparing it before posting it. So he wanted his first post to be super polished, which is a scumtell.
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On August 07 2015 16:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey!
Hey! And now I'm gone for a while. I trust you'll vote edgar again!
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Not against a yamato's lynch. The only thing I have against him though is that he's useless.
Edgar is useless AND the few posts he made were scummy.
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Could lynch scott too. Hate this excuse post.
On August 07 2015 14:17 scott31337 wrote:
My work installed a new firewall and TL is blocked. :/ I'm sad - but I'll have plenty of time to play this weekend. I'm 20 pages behind and have to get up in six hours.
@scott:
On August 07 2015 05:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 01:07 scott31337 wrote:On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is pretty bad. I'm working without them as well - it kind of sucks, but.. You can always get TL+ FF has looked better, describing his Ruxxar read in so my words. KSC has looked slightly better - he gets a slight lean. My townies are townreading Rsoul though - a pass today for sure when EAP and Ruxxar look a lot worse. I have more pages to go thru and work as well. That's right I have to revote ##Vote: Ruxxar Are your reasons for voting ruxxar the same as before ? Hope you finish to go though "more pages" soon so you can start discussing things with people.
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OK explain to me why it was good 'cause I found it pretty bad.
Plus he's attacking rsoultin and insinuating she's scum, while at the same time still pushing for igrok's lynch, when the explanation for his voting for igrok was that igrok was pushing for rsoul's mislynch. Doesn't compute.
On August 07 2015 16:43 Rels wrote:It doesn't make sense. 1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummyShow nested quote +On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing 2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynchEdgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch: Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote: Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions 3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynchAnd now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch: Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you [rsoul] were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon.
So he believes at the same time:- ruxxar is scummy - ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch - rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch This guy is mafia.
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Plus this:
On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.
##vote iGrok
I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup.
This first post is pretty scummy. He said he was willing to destroy my "case" on it and didn't.
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