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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 06 2015 17:36 GMT
#681
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:36 GMT
#682
On August 07 2015 02:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.


You should trust rsouls read in me
She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide.

can you give an example game for this?


Himalayas.

no in fact she caught bugs, not you.


i in fact caught him, rayn

please don't undermine me

it was his first scumgame, and don't even try to tell me that bugs read noone else had was not influencial to that.
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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:36 GMT
#683
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:37 GMT
#684
On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?

no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 06 2015 17:39 GMT
#685
On August 07 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:34 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.


You should trust rsouls read in me
She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide.

can you give an example game for this?


Himalayas.

no in fact she caught bugs, not you.


i in fact caught him, rayn

please don't undermine me

it was his first scumgame, and don't even try to tell me that bugs read noone else had was not influencial to that.


lol true it's easier to see scum in players who replaced players you were already scumreading >> or at least suspecting

to be fair i kept waffling on bugs

but i caught him because he said it was easier to not engage with the thread as scum and just post analysis in his newbie post game...and that's exactly what he started doing as soon as he replaced in. i knew he hadn't played scum before. even felt bad about the read a little cause...he completely goofed and gave himself away there

but look at ruxx's posting toward the end of the game with hf...i know you're not really a tonereader but the tone there is very forced and he was also pretty forced in gaiden
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 06 2015 17:40 GMT
#686
On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?

no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.


???

okay, prove it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:41 GMT
#687
On August 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.


i'm fine with you explaining it? he could be playing us...he's actually a good player from what i've seen lol

but i don't think he is? what makes you think he is? just because he townread us quick?

no, because he is not "being stupid or irrational or whatever". he is ACTING like he is.


???

okay, prove it?

i think i have already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:42 GMT
#688
rsoultin it is really easy to fake tone if you aren't doing anything worth anything.
you just troll... like he is doing.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 17:43 GMT
#689
How did I not do anything?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 06 2015 17:43 GMT
#690
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

Its not me being wary of anything. We're in day 1 with 0 information. RS was a 50% scumread at the time. Thats a 100% guaranteed 50%. Easily the best chance we're going to get. I'm 100% behind lynching RS today.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 17:44 GMT
#691
On August 07 2015 02:43 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

Its not me being wary of anything. We're in day 1 with 0 information. RS was a 50% scumread at the time. Thats a 100% guaranteed 50%. Easily the best chance we're going to get. I'm 100% behind lynching RS today.


This is the dumbest thing I ever read.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 06 2015 17:45 GMT
#692
I understood rayn was like, not deffending igrok, I'll re read <_<

it's hard to remember who posts who with no face.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:45 GMT
#693
like when i told him in the last NSM game, "i think you are one of the people who is really fucking stupid as town and really sharp as mafia", he immediately stepped up his game. I gave him compliment about that in the game thread on D2, and in the OBS QT when i died. He was literally the best player after D2, not only because he was right, but because he was making 100% sense. So it proves he can play properly and REALLY well, and for a player who is new, this should be a kickstart to think "wow i am not that bad, i can be good".

In this game, he decides to act like braindead -- INTENTIONALLY!!

why? why would you do that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:47 GMT
#694
On August 07 2015 02:44 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:43 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

Its not me being wary of anything. We're in day 1 with 0 information. RS was a 50% scumread at the time. Thats a 100% guaranteed 50%. Easily the best chance we're going to get. I'm 100% behind lynching RS today.


This is the dumbest thing I ever read.

this is the smartest thing you have said.
please go on.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 06 2015 17:47 GMT
#695
On August 07 2015 02:44 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:43 iGrok wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

Its not me being wary of anything. We're in day 1 with 0 information. RS was a 50% scumread at the time. Thats a 100% guaranteed 50%. Easily the best chance we're going to get. I'm 100% behind lynching RS today.


This is the dumbest thing I ever read.

You should read your posts before posting then.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
August 06 2015 17:48 GMT
#696
On August 07 2015 00:59 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:56 ruXxar wrote:
5 would lynch today ish in no particular order:

Yamato
Edgar
Igrok
Shining
Fecal feast

Mostly based in feelings, don't remember exactly what they wrote, except that it didn't give me a good town impression.

Mm maybe shining actually posted something nice but don't remember w/e.

Maybe coppy goes on the list but nah, not yet.

This is a list of Lurkers + Me.

But LAL is a bad policy... that you agree with... sometimes... but you think I'm mafia... because I'm pushing to LAL...


Page 28. I'm even less sure on igrok as scum now, this post and the one before it are pretty good. Meh, probably should've just caught up before giving a read.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 17:48 GMT
#697
On August 07 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like when i told him in the last NSM game, "i think you are one of the people who is really fucking stupid as town and really sharp as mafia", he immediately stepped up his game. I gave him compliment about that in the game thread on D2, and in the OBS QT when i died. He was literally the best player after D2, not only because he was right, but because he was making 100% sense. So it proves he can play properly and REALLY well, and for a player who is new, this should be a kickstart to think "wow i am not that bad, i can be good".

In this game, he decides to act like braindead -- INTENTIONALLY!!

why? why would you do that?


I'm trying to have fun, this is how I have fun.
And then I put in some reads here and there.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:50 GMT
#698
On August 07 2015 02:48 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like when i told him in the last NSM game, "i think you are one of the people who is really fucking stupid as town and really sharp as mafia", he immediately stepped up his game. I gave him compliment about that in the game thread on D2, and in the OBS QT when i died. He was literally the best player after D2, not only because he was right, but because he was making 100% sense. So it proves he can play properly and REALLY well, and for a player who is new, this should be a kickstart to think "wow i am not that bad, i can be good".

In this game, he decides to act like braindead -- INTENTIONALLY!!

why? why would you do that?


I'm trying to have fun, this is how I have fun.
And then I put in some reads here and there.

how about you play mafia?
and how about you do not make these throwaway posts which makes me make a throwaway post every single fucking time.

PLAY. THE. GAME.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 06 2015 17:51 GMT
#699
He's actually right here ita a dumb statement and you ignore the entirity of the game when we actually have good information to a point so far.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 17:51 GMT
#700
On August 07 2015 02:51 Damdred wrote:
He's actually right here ita a dumb statement and you ignore the entirity of the game when we actually have good information to a point so far.

who? what?
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