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On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town.
Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says.
lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay
if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit
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On August 07 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town.
Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says. lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit
he thinks you are mafia. why should he work with you?
i never work with people i am sure are mafia.
he is saying you are not doing shit. It was imo reasonable earlier. Now you two are in a "no you" contest.
I suggest you both let it go, if either of you think the other one is mafia by the eod then it is a different story.
Right now discussing it goes nowhere.
for the record your vote on Edgar was really townie. Thank you. 
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Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.
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On August 07 2015 02:16 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 20:55 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 20:32 Rels wrote:On August 06 2015 19:16 ruXxar wrote:
Also, just saying we should lynch lurked means that you're putting the whole game down to mechanics and ignoring the rest if the game.
Its pretty dumb imo OK I actually agree with this, igrok needs to start talking about something else. He promised to do that when he wakes up though. But I really didn't like how you posted at the beginning of the game. It is super different from last game, where you did your poetry stuff but didn't jump and post a million reads. In this game you spammed and talked about a lot of things and most of them were shitty reads. What do you think of scott ? Can you give a list of townie and scummy people ? Yeah I was very chaotic reading the first few pages, if you think I'm scum for that then I have no defense, because it's what I did. I liked Scott first post, it felt genuine. Mm after that Scott attacked me, but I didn't really sense scum intentions. I've never seen Scott play scum, so have no meta for this. I still think he's a slight town read. My 100# town this game is damdred and rsoul. When I'm posting fluff first day to create activity, it's easy to see who is in the same relaxed, non stressed/tense mindset. I got that vibe from damdy and rs, don't want to lunch them this game unless they do something super scummy. Other town reads: Kelsier I'm ok with for now. Scott is meh, very slight town. I think rayn is misguided town on me, wants to find scum Rels super town, criticizing and asking edgy questions. Who else.. Fecal is neutral ish, defo not town lean. Coppy response to pressure was meeh, not so good. Shining had again big polished post, it's always slight scum lean to me when I see these kinds of polished posts, big content posts. Igrok is slight scum lean, didn't like his opening post, but could possibly come from town. His case which is the reason for him voting rsoul is so bad and bullshit I don't even know what to say. It made me think he's even more scum honestly. Those are the people I remember right now, off the top of my head. Maybe I forgot someone, dno. I'll read more in depth when I can use a computer and read filters etc. Ehhhh. Still wanna lynch you. You have been aloof, self-meta'ing, then you drop this bomb. Kelsier and Scott reads and even really explained. Why was Cop's response to pressure meh? You call me scummy for dropping a big content, "polished" post in the biggest post I've seen you post thus far...meh.
Mm I don't think my posts are polished.
When I'm scum I make sure I write nice sent fences without spelling errors capital letters and what not.
I know self meta is crap, but I look for scum in others by the way I play scum myself.
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On August 07 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town.
Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says. lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit he thinks you are mafia. why should he work with you? i never work with people i am sure are mafia. he is saying you are not doing shit. It was imo reasonable earlier. Now you two are in a "no you" contest. I suggest you both let it go, if either of you think the other one is mafia by the eod then it is a different story. Right now discussing it goes nowhere. for the record your vote on Edgar was really townie. Thank you.
edgar is my top scumread you goof lol >< don't thank me. it's called playing the game
i'm just discussing other reads now, but i don't have to discuss grok for awhile
hrum
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On August 06 2015 22:59 Rels wrote:OK but you're wrong. Everybody is OK lynching lurker if we don't have better lynches. You stated at the beginning of the game that you would hard push lurkers; good, I agree with that. Now it's time for you to do something else though. Cause the only person that did less scumhunting than you was yamato. The only thing you did was a case on rsoul paraphrasing all her posts, that didn't convince me. So you are an active lurker right now. You could start be doing what you said you would when waking up: Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 18:56 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iGrok can you comment on the actual cases in the thread?
Like i get your approach but there is no reason to actually discuss the inactives. Everyone knows what you are saying about inactives and active lurkers.
Care to take on onto what me/Rels have posted in the last couple of pages? As its 6am, I don't have the mental fortitude to go through other people's cases at the moment, but I'll do that tomorrow. Right now I'm just watching Dota 2 and checking the thread occasionally. Unfortunately, some people still don't seem to understand what active lurkers are (Ruxxar, I'm looking at you). You and Rels have been talking about things but, as I said, I'm not super mentally sharp right now, so I'll go over it tomorrow. I think I said something about EAP earlier today, and also, iirc Shining hadn't even posted before I left for dinner? Could be wrong on that. The point is, tomorrow I'll go through and reassess everyone to figure out who the lurkeriest lurker is.
I like this post.
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hrttuspatc,aroot.
he
read
the
thread
until
some
point
and
then
continued,
and
ran
out
of
time.
yo Shining is town.
dat shit is good.
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On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.
You should trust rsouls read in me
She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide.
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On August 07 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On August 07 2015 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like rsoultin in this case i think you are enabling him if he is mafia, and you are giving him wrong signals if he is town.
Back off for a while, and we'll see what he says. lol >< he's just not even working with me when i've been trying to get him to since last night but okay if you really think that my behavior (which has been fairly reasonable imo all things considered) is enough to justify his lack of play, then i can let it go for a little bit he thinks you are mafia. why should he work with you? i never work with people i am sure are mafia. he is saying you are not doing shit. It was imo reasonable earlier. Now you two are in a "no you" contest. I suggest you both let it go, if either of you think the other one is mafia by the eod then it is a different story. Right now discussing it goes nowhere. for the record your vote on Edgar was really townie. Thank you. edgar is my top scumread you goof lol >< don't thank me. it's called playing the game i'm just discussing other reads now, but i don't have to discuss grok for awhile hrum
i suggest you take another look at ruxxar.
if you need me to explain more i can do it.
i think yamato is likely to be the third mafia.
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or rsoultin, if you do not think ruxxar is mafia then who is?
i do not accept scott as an answer.
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On August 07 2015 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hrttuspatc,aroot.
he
read
the
thread
until
some
point
and
then
continued,
and
ran
out
of
time.
yo Shining is town.
dat shit is good.
I don't understand
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On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts. You should trust rsouls read in me She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide.
can you give an example game for this?
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On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts.
ye it's meta
i think it's solid, though. for examples of what scum ruxx looks like, there's himalayas and gaiden. in himalayas i caught him before anyone else did. in gaiden we were scum together. and before that i coached him
i feel i've got a fairly strong grasp on his thought process?
don't really blame people for not just blindly trusting that, though. if you want to look at the games, be my guest. the things that get me is how constructed his posts were...he didn't engage with people (until after i called him out on it) in himalayas and still struggled a bit with the engagement thing in gaiden though had gotten a lot better at it
but overall there was just this we are town! town members should do this! we as town should behave in such and such a way and so and so is not therefore he is bad or scum let's lynch!
which is not what i see here
so...ye, take that as you may. i think it would be beneficial to read those two games though to get where damdy and i are coming from. we were both in both those games
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On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts. You should trust rsouls read in me She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide. can you give an example game for this?
Himalayas.
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On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts. You should trust rsouls read in me She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide. can you give an example game for this? Himalayas.
no in fact she caught bugs, not you.
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On August 06 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:OK. Of course I can only believe you, but as I think you're town it's good. Plus, if Shining is town and this is false, that means you're mafia and he will say it.
Lol this happens in every game with Damdred. He somehow is one of the only ones who can pick up on my townposts and immediately make me suspicious of him, for knowing I'm town when most want to lynch me lol. But every game this has happened, we've both been town, and Damdred is actually right, so he's still town.
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rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.
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On August 07 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
or rsoultin, if you do not think ruxxar is mafia then who is?
i do not accept scott as an answer.
you have my list?
i don't really have scumreads outside of edgar/yama and even yama is more null-leaning-scum cause he's pulled this shit as town, too, just being a lazy ass lol ><
i've removed cake from it for the time being (i liked her post but lol...not really that familiar with her)
scott...i really just don't think your approach there is very solid for reasons i won't go into on top of the simple fact that posting that in gen is like...super easy? but i can agree to not lynching him d1, more because he's shown some level of interest at least
ff...i'm not sure why he's being townread? some of his posts i've liked and some i haven't, as i said...all in all it hasn't met my threshold for him yet
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On August 07 2015 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i can explain to you what the problem with ruxxar is if you really want to.
If i am wrong then i am wrong but i think he is playing you and Damdred, and you are just incapable of seeing it.
That's the nicest thing you ever said to me <3
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On August 07 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 02:29 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 07 2015 02:26 ruXxar wrote:On August 07 2015 02:22 The Shining wrote:
Not going too indepth in it but I think rsoultin is town, rayn as well. The interaction with them, although tense, seems genuine on both sides and I like that RSo tries to de-escalate while also still explaining her reads and everything rayn is attacking her for. But I don't agree with the ruxxar read...it's mostly based on meta. It's better than nothing but going off of this game, I'm not seeing town motivation in his posts. You should trust rsouls read in me She reads me like a book when I'm mafia, I have nowhere to hide. can you give an example game for this? Himalayas. no in fact she caught bugs, not you.
i in fact caught him, rayn
please don't undermine me
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