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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 19:16 ruXxar wrote: Also, just saying we should lynch lurked means that you're putting the whole game down to mechanics and ignoring the rest if the game. Its pretty dumb imo OK I actually agree with this, igrok needs to start talking about something else. He promised to do that when he wakes up though. But I really didn't like how you posted at the beginning of the game. It is super different from last game, where you did your poetry stuff but didn't jump and post a million reads. In this game you spammed and talked about a lot of things and most of them were shitty reads. What do you think of scott ? Can you give a list of townie and scummy people ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 19:49 Damdred wrote: Which leaves me wanting to lynch 2(?) people roughly today which means I have to re evaluate town reads soon however shining is town ^^. I do like the Edgar case, sadly I kinda think Yamato is more likely to flip scum here because of him getting a comp saying he will spam the thread and doing nothing meh So the two people you could lynch are Edgar and Yamato. But you previously said you would also be happy to lynch me, igrok and FF. You explained the change of read for me, but what made you change your mind about igrok and FF ? | ||
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Damdred
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FF had interesting posts I guess, I'm still a bit meh on him but would like to see other thoughts. Its a pretty weak spot on him but I probably wouldn't want to lynch today | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On August 06 2015 20:32 Rels wrote: OK I actually agree with this, igrok needs to start talking about something else. He promised to do that when he wakes up though. But I really didn't like how you posted at the beginning of the game. It is super different from last game, where you did your poetry stuff but didn't jump and post a million reads. In this game you spammed and talked about a lot of things and most of them were shitty reads. What do you think of scott ? Can you give a list of townie and scummy people ? Yeah I was very chaotic reading the first few pages, if you think I'm scum for that then I have no defense, because it's what I did. I liked Scott first post, it felt genuine. Mm after that Scott attacked me, but I didn't really sense scum intentions. I've never seen Scott play scum, so have no meta for this. I still think he's a slight town read. My 100# town this game is damdred and rsoul. When I'm posting fluff first day to create activity, it's easy to see who is in the same relaxed, non stressed/tense mindset. I got that vibe from damdy and rs, don't want to lunch them this game unless they do something super scummy. Other town reads: Kelsier I'm ok with for now. Scott is meh, very slight town. I think rayn is misguided town on me, wants to find scum Rels super town, criticizing and asking edgy questions. Who else.. Fecal is neutral ish, defo not town lean. Coppy response to pressure was meeh, not so good. Shining had again big polished post, it's always slight scum lean to me when I see these kinds of polished posts, big content posts. Igrok is slight scum lean, didn't like his opening post, but could possibly come from town. His case which is the reason for him voting rsoul is so bad and bullshit I don't even know what to say. It made me think he's even more scum honestly. Those are the people I remember right now, off the top of my head. Maybe I forgot someone, dno. I'll read more in depth when I can use a computer and read filters etc. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 06 2015 17:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: i can't talk about that either yet.  he thinks i'm town for bad reasons that don't actually make me town lol >< and, in fact, the same with scott. there are reasons to read scott town and this is not one of them like, rayn, i don't even mind you tunneling the shit out of me, but you need to drop this line of reasoning because it's objectively awful as for the ruxx/igrok thing eh there are two castes of players the caste that actually reads my posts closely enough to see that the content is everywhere, and that i'm doing things with it and the caste that just skims over the posts and dismisses them as fluff the second is much larger than the first igrok calls me an "active lurker" but people who understand my posts when i read them find that stupid. so i can see both sides there. to me, the biggest mark against igrok is all he's doing is going lynch lurkers lynch lurkers lynch lurkers here's some yummy coaching lynch lurkers some more things on how to play the game igrok isn't actually doing anything that isn't very easy for scum to do and i've yet to see him really start playing this game also, ftr, i agree with damdy on shining...i think that read of yours is wrong as well, rayn | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 20:55 ruXxar wrote: Yeah I was very chaotic reading the first few pages, if you think I'm scum for that then I have no defense, because it's what I did. I liked Scott first post, it felt genuine. Mm after that Scott attacked me, but I didn't really sense scum intentions. I've never seen Scott play scum, so have no meta for this. I still think he's a slight town read. My 100# town this game is damdred and rsoul. When I'm posting fluff first day to create activity, it's easy to see who is in the same relaxed, non stressed/tense mindset. I got that vibe from damdy and rs, don't want to lunch them this game unless they do something super scummy. Other town reads: Kelsier I'm ok with for now. Scott is meh, very slight town. I think rayn is misguided town on me, wants to find scum Rels super town, criticizing and asking edgy questions. Who else.. Fecal is neutral ish, defo not town lean. Coppy response to pressure was meeh, not so good. Shining had again big polished post, it's always slight scum lean to me when I see these kinds of polished posts, big content posts. Igrok is slight scum lean, didn't like his opening post, but could possibly come from town. His case which is the reason for him voting rsoul is so bad and bullshit I don't even know what to say. It made me think he's even more scum honestly. Those are the people I remember right now, off the top of my head. Maybe I forgot someone, dno. I'll read more in depth when I can use a computer and read filters etc. Yeah if you were the only choice I would vote you. Luckily for you I feel EAP and Shining are way scummier than you. (= I can understand everything you wrote apart from the rsoul&Damdred tone read. They are super vet players that can't be read by the fact that they are "relaxed" at the beginning of the game. I'm not saying they are scum, I townread Damdred for his good logic, and I'm waiting to see what rsoul bring to the town. I just don't understand you townreading them so easily. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Damdred. Why is shining town? Full elaboration would be nice. Also i am actully pretty sure cake is town. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 06 2015 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah then don't talk about ongoing games. Damdred. Why is shining town? Full elaboration would be nice. Also i am actully pretty sure cake is town. ye there's no way to productively pursue this conversation you done goofed man lol >< mmmm i'm not 100% on shining by any means but i liked his reads. they felt like a shining ^^ i don't want to lynch him today | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
That much for reading the thread. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
So far you have - mocked me - mocked iGrok - said weird stuff. Which of Shining's reads are good in your opinion and why? I will help you out, he actually has one read. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 19:49 Damdred wrote: at this time I would like to say that shining is town but I don't blame anyone for being wrong about him at this point. His first post was bad but his next ones were good and reflect town shining, and while it will be hard together if you listen to me we will get through this. My read on shining hasn't been wrong ij many many games so just believe me that he's town. On August 06 2015 21:26 rsoultin wrote: also, ftr, i agree with damdy on shining...i think that read of yours is wrong as well, rayn It's super cool you two thinks Shining is town, but could you comment on the actual things rayn said ? Is it a good case or not ? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 06 2015 21:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: So okay, let's not consider you town for "bad reasons" then rsoultin. So far you have - mocked me - mocked iGrok - said weird stuff. Which of Shining's reads are good in your opinion and why? I will help you out, he actually has one read. ;o; you know, rayn, you claiming that you actually want to play with me and talking about how smart i am and how excited you were to play with me... i don't think you actually understand how i play this game at all what's funny is i don't actually remember his reads at this point? i remember seeing the two in his little paragraph and going oh...that's actually insightful shining could be town this game -shrugs- i responded to it when he posted it. see for yourself | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 06 2015 21:55 Rels wrote: It's super cool you two thinks Shining is town, but could you comment on the actual things rayn said ? Is it a good case or not ? honestly, rels...most things aren't good cases this early because they're based on very little i could break it apart like i did when i coached you, but if something had caught my eye as particularly damning i would have mentioned it? none of what he said was awful but it doesn't really make shining scum, is the thing, and i've played with shining more than he has, plus other players are more interesting, anyway | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 22:01 rsoultin wrote: honestly, rels...most things aren't good cases this early because they're based on very little i could break it apart like i did when i coached you, but if something had caught my eye as particularly damning i would have mentioned it? none of what he said was awful but it doesn't really make shining scum, is the thing, and i've played with shining more than he has, plus other players are more interesting, anyway OK got it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
You don't have an opinion on Edgar, you say the other lynch targets (Shining & Ruxxar) are town, for reasons you don't either remember or i think are not good. You want to lynch iGrok but you have no desire to tell me why what i just said about him and his motivation, and how it points more towards town than to mafia, is wrong. Like i have no idea what you are doing!?!?!? Except for being here. iGrok's case is not bad tbh. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 06 2015 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to work with you if you mock me. I am not gonna get visibly mad but you, as everyone, knows i will get mad when people throw shit at me. So if you are going to work with me then please do, instead of calling me shit. You don't have an opinion on Edgar, you say the other lynch targets (Shining & Ruxxar) are town, for reasons you don't either remember or i think are not good. You want to lynch iGrok but you have no desire to tell me why what i just said about him and his motivation, and how it points more towards town than to mafia, is wrong. Like i have no idea what you are doing!?!?!? Except for being here. iGrok's case is not bad tbh. rayn, i'm not mocking you i was being playful lol >< ruxxy and damdy being town this game made me giddy i've seen ruxxar's scum games okay? as both alignments, i'm intimately familiar with his scum game. they're super constructed. he sounds like an inspirational poster lol >< and yes, kinda robotic. i was trying to say that him focusing on what he considers to be "constructed" posts makes all the sense in the world given how he plays scum, and him relaxing enough to play this way actually is town indicative what you said about igrok isn't wrong? i'm not voting for him, if you haven't noticed. it is a risk for scum to say he's going to lynch all lurkers, forcing him into a corner if one of his teammates is lurking. but you're assuming here that 1) none of his scummates are lurking/there won't be enough lurking town to still get a mislynch off 2) he even thought that far ahead let me try to be more articulate about what i don't like about him iGrok is simply focusing in on one thing (lurking) to the exclusion of everything else. beyond that all his posts are "helpful" posts trying to tell people how to play the game. he has no actual reads his case is just paraphrasing my posts and calling them all shit. in passing, okay. i post differently. he's also new to me. but if he's taking the time to read everything i'm saying, it's a little hard to believe he's daft enough to not see the points i'm making. i'm willing to entertain the thought that it's possible, though edgar's post was eh to me. another reason i'm not voting on iGrok, tbh. it looked very...stiff/unnatural when i first read it and ye the phrasing was awkward, i agree. i'm actually inclined to vote him over iGrok at the moment...but no i'm not townreading iGrok and i think it would be foolish to at this point | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i spend the first bit of d1 threshing out my reads, and a lot of times that ends up being town-hunting and then rack-and-stacking the people i don't have a townread on to determine who i want to lynch. the only time this isn't the case is when i'm fairly certain someone is scum, but that's usually the exception on d1 i'm not a rayn  usually pick up later | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
@Rayne, I think that this game is forming up to be a clash of mindsets - Old vets like myself, you, and possibly Yamato compared to the newer styles of rsoultin, ruxxar, and... most other people here. Somehow, there's a mental disconnect preventing communication between the two sides. We need to fix this if we want to win. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
posts like that, give me the cheerleading but not really doing anything vibe maybe this is how you play town, iGrok, but if it is i can't say that i'm a fan | ||
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