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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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Rels is town because he is focusing on relevant stuff in the thread and making good conclusions. FF & Kelsier are town because they are saying smart stuff. To be honest Kelsier missed that Shining thing but it's in fact an easy thing to miss, i also missed it until Rels brought up Shining's first post. If you just look at the posts individually they make a lot of sense but looking at them to together they make zero sense at all. Damdred is town because he is actually involved in the game which he isn't as mafia. He is actually involved in talking and arguing with me which he isn't as mafia. That's why i read him town Cake, and that's why i caught him in the VS game. Granted, he was really inactive and probably didn't give any fucks because of Keirathi dropping but still, the point stands. iGrok is probably town because mafia is voting for him. Cake and yamato are probably town because the three other people are mafia. Mafia is ruxxar, shining and edgar. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 16:31 ruXxar wrote: Igrok just wanting to lynch lurkers instead of looking for mafia motivation is like trying to escape the responsibility of his scum reads by basing it on a towny concept. When we mislynch people it's easy to go "I pushed xyz he was the least active, it was his own fault!" Real easy cop out and avoids getting scum read for it. WTF you said you agreed with his no lurker thing: On August 06 2015 07:03 ruXxar wrote: k, so to put it out there, i don't disagree with the message that igrok put out. i also hate lurkers, so don't lurk guys kk? Explain ? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
If he is mafia he is putting himself into a bad place and basically banking his D1 onto the fact that at least one townie is going to be inactive, which is a crapshoot in an all vanilla game, especially when i am also pushing lynch all lurkers. He just HAS to contribute when people start posting, and it's really hard to do that when you are "behind" in the game already (as you have just pushed inactives, which isn't mafia indicative at all at this point of the game). There is literally zero reasons for iGrok to be mafia at this point because: 1) his thought process is logical 2) if he was mafia he is setting himself into a shitty position by letting the town drive the thread so yeah, there is that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Definitely not mafia. People who are voting for him do not even try to understand why he is saying the stuff he is. Also they are mafia so... | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 17:20 Rels wrote: This post is a little bit scummy. It is the first post of The Shining. He talks about a lot of different things, as if he didn't know what to put in his first post. Actually let's count the number of different things he's talking about: 1 - whining about D1 and filters 2 - questionning others about filters 3 - reads (Igrok, rsoultin, FF) 4 - needs to reread 'cause no filters So The Shining felt the need to talk about 4 different subjects in his first post. Not as scummy as I thought though, 'cause the filter thing is all over the place, so the subjects are linked. OK actually it was Shining's second post, so the "he didn't know what to put in his first post" is not true. His first post is: On August 06 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote: We are all gonna die D= Still, it is Shining's first relevant post, and it seems forced to me. Plus, rayn's point of Shining not mentioning FF or ruxxar in his reread is good. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 10:53 iGrok wrote: Scott is the only true lurker at the moment. If Tina starts posting actual content, I'll shift onto him. Right now Tina looks very scummy, for the reasons I stated at the top of this page. So this scott guy is a true lurker: + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2015 04:59 scott31337 wrote: CONFTOWN AGAIN yayyy At least I-10's has a lane or two now. I'll be back later. On August 06 2015 08:41 scott31337 wrote: Are you going to actually do something about it though? I haven't liked much of his posting at all - just like this one of yours. Damd/Rayn town reads so far. Not liking ## Fecalfeast / Rsoultin / Ruxxar ##Vote Ruxxar On August 06 2015 08:50 scott31337 wrote: His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post) and then says you and rsoul are 100% towns and doesn't even mention rayn, myself, etc. I don't like it. Rsoul might be town but I see tons of fluff and very little ideas. FF's post felt like a throw in something and that's it. You and rayn are having solid thoughts and reads. I want to look more into Cop, igrok, KSC, etc. But this yamato guy is not worth mentionning ? + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2015 05:37 yamato77 wrote: Yes, really. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 06 2015 09:01 The Shining wrote: I hate d1. Hate it hate it hate it. And where the hell is the filter button? I'm gonna take another break from TL and they'll get rid of preview next. Dafuq man. How do you dive without filters? How do you guys even play without filters?! Also this is my first all vanilla game so I was thinking of ways mechanically to hunt scum. I've got iGrok at a light town lean for wanting to go at lurkers from the start, which was one of the first things I considered. I'm not sure I agree with his RSo read, but I'm trash at treading her, and most ppl, D1. But as someone mentioned, she's threatened to go full lazy lurk mode and still hasn't. Not D1 Lynch. I'm going to have to reread since no filters and I'm on mobile(I always play mobile, sry) but I remember being ehh on FF. It's too early for an associative read but his reaction to ruxxar felt a bit forced. "Idk I don't like ruxxar" its too noncommittal. Great, I'm not sure I like him either but I'm going to reread and figure out why I do/don't. He seems too bouncy to read clearly. On August 06 2015 09:06 The Shining wrote: Damdred town. Clear clear thought processes and a willingness to revisit a question/topic he already discussed because Cake asked again makes it look like he has nothing to hide. I don't like Cop feeling it necessary to point out that he's a gem, as well as giving us his own chosen example of his scum meta. It shows he's very weary of his play, and how he looks at himself as scum, and trying to influence us in that direction instead of giving us the opportunity to do so on our own. Unless that is literally his only scumgame on this site. He literally says he does not know that to think of FF and ruxxar. Then he says he has to re-read and instead of doing that he goes to post about something completely different. Like i get that his posts are 5 minutes apart, but it still doesn't make any sense he feels it's more important to to make another post onto townreads (damdred) and finding out other suspects (cake) when you already have people you suspect. He just leaves his read on FF & ruxxar onto "idk" state when the most logical thing to do is to go and figure out the reads on them. I believe he just got timid about the fact his post was called out bad and had to post something that would be considered "good". ##unvote ##vote The Shining ruxxar and edgar still mafia but this is my strongest scumread. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 06 2015 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay i actually think Shining is the best lynch today: He literally says he does not know that to think of FF and ruxxar. Then he says he has to re-read and instead of doing that he goes to post about something completely different. Like i get that his posts are 5 minutes apart, but it still doesn't make any sense he feels it's more important to to make another post onto townreads (damdred) and finding out other suspects (cake) when you already have people you suspect. He just leaves his read on FF & ruxxar onto "idk" state when the most logical thing to do is to go and figure out the reads on them. I believe he just got timid about the fact his post was called out bad and had to post something that would be considered "good". ##unvote ##vote The Shining ruxxar and edgar still mafia but this is my strongest scumread. Strong case. I think EAP's first post is scummier than this though. Will vote Shining if I can't get EAP lynched or if EAP convinced me he's town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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iGrok
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On August 06 2015 18:27 Rels wrote: So this scott guy is a true lurker: + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2015 04:59 scott31337 wrote: CONFTOWN AGAIN yayyy At least I-10's has a lane or two now. I'll be back later. On August 06 2015 08:41 scott31337 wrote: Are you going to actually do something about it though? I haven't liked much of his posting at all - just like this one of yours. Damd/Rayn town reads so far. Not liking ## Fecalfeast / Rsoultin / Ruxxar ##Vote Ruxxar On August 06 2015 08:50 scott31337 wrote: His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post) and then says you and rsoul are 100% towns and doesn't even mention rayn, myself, etc. I don't like it. Rsoul might be town but I see tons of fluff and very little ideas. FF's post felt like a throw in something and that's it. You and rayn are having solid thoughts and reads. I want to look more into Cop, igrok, KSC, etc. But this yamato guy is not worth mentionning ? + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2015 05:37 yamato77 wrote: Yes, really. I completely forgot about Yamato! Good catch. However, I know that the only reason he posted in thread is because I told him that the game had started and he signed on just to troll me. So I wouldn't really consider him to have actually started posting. Still, if he doesn't start playing today he definitely gets a spot on my hit list. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Like i get your approach but there is no reason to actually discuss the inactives. Everyone knows what you are saying about inactives and active lurkers. Care to take on onto what me/Rels have posted in the last couple of pages? | ||
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Rels
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On August 06 2015 18:40 iGrok wrote: I completely forgot about Yamato! Good catch. However, I know that the only reason he posted in thread is because I told him that the game had started and he signed on just to troll me. So I wouldn't really consider him to have actually started posting. Still, if he doesn't start playing today he definitely gets a spot on my hit list. OK ! Yamato I'd like a confirm on that : However, I know that the only reason he posted in thread is because I told him that the game had started and he signed on just to troll me. and everything will be fine. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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iGrok
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On August 06 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: iGrok can you comment on the actual cases in the thread? Like i get your approach but there is no reason to actually discuss the inactives. Everyone knows what you are saying about inactives and active lurkers. Care to take on onto what me/Rels have posted in the last couple of pages? As its 6am, I don't have the mental fortitude to go through other people's cases at the moment, but I'll do that tomorrow. Right now I'm just watching Dota 2 and checking the thread occasionally. Unfortunately, some people still don't seem to understand what active lurkers are (Ruxxar, I'm looking at you). You and Rels have been talking about things but, as I said, I'm not super mentally sharp right now, so I'll go over it tomorrow. I think I said something about EAP earlier today, and also, iirc Shining hadn't even posted before I left for dinner? Could be wrong on that. The point is, tomorrow I'll go through and reassess everyone to figure out who the lurkeriest lurker is. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On August 06 2015 17:59 Rels wrote: WTF you said you agreed with his no lurker thing: Explain ? I don't like lurkers, they make the game boring and harder than it should be. Doesn't mean that Lurkers should be automatically lynched over scummy active people. If they are scummy and lurking, then yes, lynch with fire. But lynching just because they post less than your arbitrary measure of what is an active poster is dumb. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On August 06 2015 18:56 iGrok wrote: As its 6am, I don't have the mental fortitude to go through other people's cases at the moment, but I'll do that tomorrow. Right now I'm just watching Dota 2 and checking the thread occasionally. Unfortunately, some people still don't seem to understand what active lurkers are (Ruxxar, I'm looking at you). You and Rels have been talking about things but, as I said, I'm not super mentally sharp right now, so I'll go over it tomorrow. I think I said something about EAP earlier today, and also, iirc Shining hadn't even posted before I left for dinner? Could be wrong on that. The point is, tomorrow I'll go through and reassess everyone to figure out who the lurkeriest lurker is. Please educate me on what an active lurker is. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
Its pretty dumb imo | ||
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Damdred
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at this time I would like to say that shining is town but I don't blame anyone for being wrong about him at this point. His first post was bad but his next ones were good and reflect town shining, and while it will be hard together if you listen to me we will get through this. My read on shining hasn't been wrong ij many many games so just believe me that he's town. Rels also feels like town at this point. Which leaves me wanting to lynch 2(?) people roughly today which means I have to re evaluate town reads soon however shining is town ^^. I do like the Edgar case, sadly I kinda think Yamato is more likely to flip scum here because of him getting a comp saying he will spam the thread and doing nothing meh | ||
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