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Let me put it this way, I find nothing redeeming in yamato's play.
I wanted to townread him for throwing shit on igroks post which I thought was bad. Turned out it was just a "Joke".
Now he also voted you for what was also a "joke".
I don't believe this for a second, and I'm expecting some REALLY good answers if/when he gets back.
My scum meter is reading over 9000 at this point.
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On August 08 2015 01:34 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 09:05 rsoultin wrote: eh, yama was referencing a joke where i challenged him to lynch me d1 lol...i said that no one lynches me d1 (rayn excepted of course >> fuck rayn)
but yeah...i'm not concerned about that vote unless he demonstrates it's serious?
if yama's scum it's for not playing at all despite having the time to, not the vote on me why should i be concerned about the vote, ruxx? it's nai is there some reason you take issue with me saying i think yama's scum but don't care about the vote?
How is the vote NAI? Did he come back and change his vote? no.
He came back and posted a big worthless post and just was content sitting with his vote on you, didn't answer ANY of the questions posed to him or requests made of him.
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I feel sorry for mafia because without filters they're like fish in a barrel.
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So I think if we lynch yamato and igrok we hit MINIMUM 1 mafia. I'll record a video of me singing any song you want if this is not true.
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On August 08 2015 01:41 rsoultin wrote: yeah i'm not going to argue with you over this ruxx lol ><
we both think he's scum for almost identical reasons and this argument is pointless
if you want me to change my vote, convince me (or enough other people) that edgar could be town. i'm assuming that's the real purpose behind your aggression xP
You're damn right I'm aggressive, because I believe I'm right and when I'm righ I want to lynch ppl I think are scum.
If there was PR's in this game I would give yamato a pass. In all vanillas, fuck no, yamato is 100% mafia here.
Let me try to make a case on edgar for a less scummy than yamato post for you. Buckle your seatbelt:
#1) He's agreeing with my top town reads + myself. The fact that he's willing to lynch people that we think are scummy is enough to give him a day pass.
#2) He actually pushes back when pressured. Instead of buckling to pressure when you go on the offensive against him, he actually comes back strong and stands his ground. I like this attitude. It shows that he doesnt give a shit what people think of him. He believes he's right and he's willing to fight for it.
#3) Calling him scummy for his inactivity excuse in his first ost When edgar points out he wasn't going to be very active, you tried to push scum on him for that. Well, fact is you ALSO mentioned you weren't going to be super active, so that statement in itself is not a scum indiciator. Rayn also in our last game mentioned in his first post that he was posting to not be modkilled, which also is an indicator for being less active.
All in all this is basically not a reason to scum read him at all.
#4) You scumread edgar for making a point that you yourself made 5 hours later. This one should be self explanatory. He made an original point (igrok was acting coachy/preachy), you make the same point some hours later and now you attack edgar for it?
#5) He actually came back and EXPLAINED his igrok read in his OWN words. This is a major point more than enough to give him a daypass:
On August 07 2015 07:46 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I do not care why you are voting me. We are going to lynch igrok today. Every post he makes contains things that look like he is a person that is trying his hardest to formulate coherent reads to fit in but instead they look really flawed and based on silly things where he pushes false dichotomies such as someone being silly-town or mafia but we should lynch them anyway.
None of these things are a towny thought process. Coupled with his coaching and cheerleading earlier and his inablity to answer basic questions then he is an excellent lynch.
On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Alternatively, I can respond to your case to mindlessly appease you but my responses would not be nice. If you think any of those things make anyone mafia ever then you need to rethink how to look for mafia.
My vote on igrok was because:
A) I was not sure if I'd be around or want to play at all with no filters since I work the entirety of the cycle and catching up does not particularly work for me.
B) my read on ruxxar was based on other people's opinions and my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions and so I picked the person that made the read on the other.
I can still think both are scummy and pick one though, how would that make me mafia either way?
You guys better not fucking vote for edgar becuse this guy is TOWN.
I'm calling it right now, don't give a shit if I'm wrong but HES TOWN.
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On August 08 2015 02:06 Rels wrote: Wtf. Edgar is scummy as fuck. I'm OK with yamato but I'm not OK with you calling Edgar town.
Your strongest point, his explanation of igrok vite with his own word, is shut. He just parroted what raoul said, he even took her words (coaching, cheerleading)
And that is exactly what a mafia would do. Would he stay silent ? No be would come, justify his vote with what he can then leave without talking to anyone
I've seen scummy people, and I've seen shitty town.
OK maybe I excaggerated with the town read, but I ABSOLUTELY do not want to lynch him today.
I think it's an easy mislynch, and he does not give me enough of a scum vibe that I want to lynch him TODAY.
I said I have doubts for other reason, mostly because he hasn't given reads on other people yet.
But thats not enough for me to lynch him today over super scum like yama. Not in a million years.
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On August 08 2015 02:08 yamato77 wrote: I blame Tina for not getting caught up last night.
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Get down to business my friend.
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On August 08 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote: Yeah a bit which isn't indicative because I just lynched mafia with no push back in my last 2 games.
However I do have misgivings here on Edgar for some reason, like his posts still aren't horrible scum feeling to me which is meh.
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Damdred sees the truth. If you don't want to listen to me, then listen to damdred.
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And if edgar flips scum then you can lynch me np, I can take responsibility for being wrong.
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On August 08 2015 02:21 rsoultin wrote: silencio, padawan
i know your angle and your desire; you don't need to keep screaming it lol ><
nh
reads yama andale
tiiiiinaaaaaaaaaaa q.q
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that was kinda creepy.
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On August 08 2015 02:17 yamato77 wrote: I will post as much as I can before deadline.
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Yep, almost getting there
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In case you forgot yamato:
On August 07 2015 15:38 ruXxar wrote: Here Yamato, to help you along:
1) What are your town and scum reads?
2) Why did you call Igroks post shit?
3) what is your opinion of igrok
4) why are you voting for rsoultin
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On August 08 2015 02:27 Rels wrote: Yamato coming back the second switch to him starts happening is super scummy. It could be a coincidence, or it could be a mafia content with Edgar's lynch.
I knew this would happen.
When yamato gets in the vote leads the ants will start swarming in distress.
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Rels, you should come to norway sometime. I need to practice my french with someone :D
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On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret. Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote: Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.
Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain. rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town? lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP this question is silly, though ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol >< damdy!whisperer This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read. Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote: On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. Ugh this post. So much try hard, I get tired just reading it. #1 scum so far. ##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe. My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.
Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta: If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win. If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.
This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town. I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however. Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote: meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/
the activity fixation is real
you can't be serious? i can actually he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little capice, rayn? @ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all let me be lazy ;o; This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment. Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order. I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot. Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him. He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok. Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote: I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.
Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.
Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.
I'm trying to understand ruxxar
I don't like how Kelsier aproach me Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn. Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice.
1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin?
2) what's your opinion of eddgar?
3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense.
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Also a tip for you yamato.
Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down.
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On August 08 2015 02:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 02:33 ruXxar wrote: Rels, you should come to norway sometime. I need to practice my french with someone :D I'll teach you the french touch too. Sexy as fuck accent
mmmmmmm.... c'est mon plaisir. tu êtes un sexy beast *rawr* <3
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On August 08 2015 02:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret. On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote: Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.
Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain. rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town? lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP this question is silly, though ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol >< damdy!whisperer This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read. On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote: On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. Ugh this post. So much try hard, I get tired just reading it. #1 scum so far. ##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe. My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.
Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta: If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win. If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.
This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town. I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however. On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote: meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/
the activity fixation is real
you can't be serious? i can actually he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little capice, rayn? @ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all let me be lazy ;o; This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment. On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order. I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot. Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him. He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok. On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote: I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.
Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.
Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.
I'm trying to understand ruxxar
I don't like how Kelsier aproach me Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn. Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice. 1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin? 2) what's your opinion of eddgar? 3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense. My joke with tina was before the game started. I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear.
1) Nope.
2) Well you better get to reading eddgar cuz you're running out of time.
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On August 08 2015 02:57 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 02:53 ruXxar wrote: Also a tip for you yamato.
Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down. If I don't think he's mafia, then...? It's like you think I have to find the other guy scummy. What if I want to lynch you?
Then you're fucked since I'm town.
K, so basically you're scum confirming that eddgar is town. GJ, now I feel better.
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On August 08 2015 03:00 yamato77 wrote: So I've skimmed iGrok's filter, and I find it quite easy to explain.
1) He has a plan of how to play mountainous. I would expect him to. As mafia I doubt he comes up with this plan and follows through.
2) He finds tina quite scummy because of his metric of "active-lurking", and then gets into a tunnel when she calls him mafia. I don't agree with his read of her but it's fairly easy to see how he gets there.
3) He attacks ruxxar for horrible posts. Thus far I'm in agreement about this as well. Will read ruxxar's fitler next and show the horrible posts about which I speak.
Read eddgar and give me your opinion.
Give it to me raw, straight and pure. If you confirm him town I'm lynching you today 100%.
I'm not going to lynch outside of igrok, yamato and eddgar today. No fucking way.
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