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On July 25 2015 08:06 scott31337 wrote: 1/75 ##Give 5 posts to KelsierSC If I actually go thru 80 posts in a cycle I would impress myself to be honest. I know there's three scum - I haven't liked VT claims since my second game, and neither should you - It's not as bad as LS claiming when the breeze blows by is what I was stating. GB didn't reply that he was my friend, just that he is town - I'm town too but not the response I wanted.  Palmar speaking the truth, he's probably my favorite player next to HF. Rsoul already seems different this game - could be a good sign. When you say Palmar speaks truth...what exactly are you referring to and why is he your favorite? Favorite for town or scum? | ||
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I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town. Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule. | ||
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On July 25 2015 11:19 Snickers wrote: also only two of those reads are more than a slight read, but considering there seems to be so many people here and only a few posts 20 minutes in it makes me think there are probably two scum here now. I have no clue percentage wise how many have talked versus in game. What time do you think the game started? Can you actually explain your shit post of reads? Like you've called someone scum and you don't even know who you're talking about. | ||
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On July 26 2015 11:21 Snickers wrote: **Huge Snipping occurs** he is protecting onegu here but if u actually thought about onegu's original post and how he dodged my follow up questions it makes onegu look super fucking scummy if you want i will explain why onegu looks scummy if you dont see it. says onegu claim is stronger than rains but back it up with no fucking facts. mind you hes still on stuff from what the first page of the game? next part. rains claim was a fucking joke stop fucking talking about it. and this is a semi open game who the fuck cares onegu claimed named town. why did he claim it? to make himself look town which he isnt. lynch him plz. and realize onegu claim is fake as shit Break it down for us. | ||
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On July 26 2015 11:50 Snickers wrote: hopeless do one thing that is townie day one? okay? Yeah thats not how it works with me. Im like the scummiest player ever | ||
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a. claimed named town (No CC) Null/ Townlean imo. Certainly not instant scumread like you wish to imply. b. Bussing + Sheeping How the everloving fuck could you know this unless you were scum with him? Are you admitting you are scum? I get your point about the whole CC being not indicative, but your estimates of 1/20 or 19/20 chances are ludicrous. I cant read rayn, and if I get into a pissing contest I will lose. Please have mercy, rayn. Re: Scott Notice how I have 3 whole voters and one of them is scott Also note the timestamps On July 26 2015 01:24 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1 Vote Count ---> Hopeless1der (3): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337 rsoultin (2): Onegu, Snickers raynpelikoneet (1): Palmar KelsierSC (0): Not voted (7): KelsierSC, FirmTofu, boxerfred, ObiWanShinobi, rsoultin, GlowingBear, Hopeless1der As the wind blows, Hopeless1der is staring death in the face. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. The live voting tracker is located here. Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up! Okay, now read this shitty list post from scott, look at who's voting me and what his thoughts are on those players: On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote: Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment - 1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it. 2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out. 3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET. 4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious 5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean 6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me 7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean 8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null 9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4. 10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean 11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day. 12 scott31337 town 13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that. Would lynch. ##Vote scott31337 As an aside, it annoys me when people bring up my first post and say its "forced" or "bad" with no further commentary on WHY its forced or bad. | ||
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On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case? Elaborate for me? Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that? @GB re kelsier I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today. | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:02 GlowingBear wrote: The fact that you're relying on rayn's read on her is very suspicious, I must say. Do you know why Rayn called rsoultin Mafia in the first place? do YOU know why rayn called rsoul mafia? | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:08 GlowingBear wrote: Please, palmar. You're scumreading rsoultin over WIFOM and associating it with me. Rsoultin was pushing and is still pushing your main scumread clarity. Suddenly, you forget clarity and go against rsoultin. Why? DONT QUESTION DETECTIVE PALMAR'S BRILLIANCE | ||
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I'm actually rereading FT and rayn right now and also trying to work out if theres anything from a votecount perspective for mafia trying to save FT btw, rayn had rsoul AND palmar as mafia because they failed to see FT as scummy. | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote: 8/80 yeah of course scum is going to say sheep town!rayn on town!rsoul you better fucking come up with your own reason for scumreading me or you're next when i flip town ^^ So by that logic I can interchange scum for town and town for scum right? So: "yeah of course town is going to say sheep town!rayn on scum!rsoul" I mean, that makes perfect sense to me. | ||
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On July 27 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am scumreading you because you aren't doing shit and saying dumb things and/or using dumb narratives to discredit my thoughts. I am being, like i have been, honest here, i lynched you in the other game because you were scummy. You were. Obviously you were town, but you weren't doing shit. Obviously that was because you were playing two games at once and didn't have time but it does not change the fact you didn't do shit. You are not doing shit here. I don't find any intelligent comments from you. I just fucking don't. Palmar goes to same pile. I actually hold you two in the highest regards in the players in this game. I cannot understand why netiher of you cannot fucking see why what FirmTofu is doing is scummy as fuck and i cannot understand how you can possibly think Clarity is a better lynch than FT just because he is inactive. Like feel free to go ahead and lynch Clarity, i am telling you he will flip fucking town. FirmTofu will not. Kelsier will flip town. I have no idea what Scott will flip. So yeah. It doesn't help i have to wake up at 4 am so i REALLY gotta go in like 15 minutes. | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:20 GlowingBear wrote: No hopeless. Rayn had rsoultin as Mafia because she said she couldn't trust his other reads because he was reading her as Mafia. What kind of circular logic is this? GB come on bro... | ||
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yeah, my quote was earlier. good try bud. Lets move on. On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote: Calling this game now. Mafia team is Clarity, scott, and Kelsier. It's just so perfect. Who thinks there are scum in that list? I think those are all townies. Also for giggles: + Show Spoiler + I think I just poe'd myself down to rsoul boxer and obiwan | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:32 GlowingBear wrote: Congratulations, you've made a Mafia team of 4 out of 3 that was a list of people i'd lynch....I know how to count GB | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote: 12/80 the worst part is i'm not sure that this even makes palmar scum? though admittedly his dropping the clarity read like a load of bricks doesn't look good -_- i don't know anymore i have a really hard time reading people when they're scumreading me because my natural reaction is to think they're scum, especially if the reasons are this stupid i've made my case on clarity and i'm pointing out why i think hopeless is scummy for this i'm not being defeatist? mostly i'm just kind of frustrated that i have to deal with fucking bullshit when i'm trying to figure out this game I find it amusing that the case against clarity is almost identical to the case against me. Clarity might actually be scum. | ||
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reasons....but i just read your filter and you're townier than clarity and kelsier...so much for that. | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I was talking about how you came to the conclusion as to how FT's scumlist was all town. I told you, "reasons". scott for cop check shennanies, kelsier for filter, clarity because he seemed to care too little about what happens to him over the night. The latter 2 are pretty weak, especially with me doing the analysis. | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:49 Snickers wrote: Yea Obi time to explain ur scummy play during the night buddy wait wut? Does the post restriction apply to a given day or does each cycle add 80 posts? i.e. do I have 80 posts for Day2 or (Whatever was left from Day1) plus 80? | ||
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obiwans reads changed from his cop recommendations to calling those recommendations town. Now shut the fuck up and move on. | ||
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On July 28 2015 12:34 Snickers wrote: so i go from top two scum to top two town.... righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt when i was specfically trying to be scummy in the night to not get night killed lol You're an idiot. Like how could you possibly think you were getting killed? | ||
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Snickers gave your credit for claiming. Its everything after the claim that he is questioning....reading comprehension, does anyone have it anymore? | ||
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How the fuck is this productive in any way? Are you kidding me? ##vote: boxerfred + Show Spoiler [reasoning] + I am certain that one of boxerfred/GB are mafia, if not both. I'm much more inclined to lynch boxerfred atm. On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote: Night 1 (edited for vote tracker) Final Day 1 Vote Count FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, clarity_nl (1): Hopeless1der (1): boxerfred (1): KelsierSC (0): raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): palmar (0): | ||
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On July 29 2015 21:34 KelsierSC wrote: We should consolidate Anyone who voted ft is off the table I don't want to lynch rsol at all I think she's town. So hopeless,GB or Bf are your choices, I think Bf is town though. Hopeless has done absolutely nothing and his play is uninspiring. Fits scum profile. Le go Fits profile, isn't scum. I'm the poster child for scummy town. why do you have bf as town? I'd like to lynch him | ||
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yeah i am in full agreement with onegu on this one. | ||
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On July 29 2015 02:43 boxerfred wrote: I'm not too sure on a Palmar lynch however. Would still prefer Clarity. The flip would probably give us a lot of information. No indication as to what information, just...information? How about, because you think he's scum? On July 29 2015 05:25 boxerfred wrote: "im confirmed town and won't bother playing the game now and simply lurk" gtfo, back to your lurk grounds. Super not townie demeanor dealing with onegu. And onegu is like 95% town off the claim alone. + Show Spoiler [Look how much work I did you guys, I w…] + On July 29 2015 17:04 boxerfred wrote: Like, really? Not like that is what I brought up earlier. + Show Spoiler + On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote: I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train: scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu That would include me. So, regarding me: - I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM. - I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for. Hopeless1ider: This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip. Reading his filter: He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh. GlowingBear: Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town. However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu: Then, he joins the train: He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly: Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up. Next up, scott: So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure? He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting: So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum. But I'm not going to vote for the player I made this super awesome case on. On July 29 2015 17:11 boxerfred wrote: I missed the Hope wagon starting but I joined it. nowait i changed my mind On July 29 2015 18:34 boxerfred wrote: oh yeah and #vote gb On July 29 2015 18:39 boxerfred wrote: lynch gb + onegu, probably we'll be fine then I have no problem with GB's push against scott though. Look at snicker's case on GB and how he says he "never pushed scott". (The spoiler above has snicker's and bf's case). BF's case is built on the fact that GB WAS pushing scott super hard to defend FT. They are completely contradictory but BF doesnt give a shit what snickers said, just that it was on a target that he already made a (imo bad) case on. Look at where his votes went today. I dont get the feeling he cares who gets lynched or that he actually wants GB to die. He just keeps quoting the same post he made on "people who tried to stop the scum train". Like I consider GB trying to get his target (scott) lynched way more townie than boxer (and myself) parking our votes and afking the rest of the day. | ||
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On July 30 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote: also your vote count analysis thing is awful. Go back and look at a few games, if you're gonna accuse anyone of being mafia based on the votecount it'd have to be clarity, rsoultin or snickers for failing to do shit with their votes. i assume this is for me. Am I completely wrong in thinking mafia made SOME attempt to save FT? | ||
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Scott is town. | ||
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On July 30 2015 01:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hopeless, what do you think of what Gb just said about your green check? Makes me want to lynch him | ||
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On July 30 2015 02:14 GlowingBear wrote: Listen, snickers was against a clarity lynch softing that he had a green check on him. I instantly realised that and advocated against a clarity lynch. That's why I thought it was weird that he said boxer was like confirmed town. Now, I can't possibly believe scott isn't mafia after everything I just brought + his latest vote. It IS scummy. And I find it weird that hopeless didn't keep an eye on Rayn after he fake claimed at the beginning of the game. Hopeless just said he was indifferent on Rayn. He never showed suspicions on snickers either. Plus, why scott? We agreed that rsoultin was the best check here. I'm simply not comfortable with this green check. okay, cc me and get rekt. I dont give a fuck if you arent comfortable, its what you have. Deal with it. | ||
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On July 30 2015 02:17 GlowingBear wrote: It would be easier if you could explain this instead of being a girl I have nothing to explain. Scott is town. Proceed | ||
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On July 30 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote: Dude I just said Snickers softed he is a cop and you don't fucking care???? so...ask him about it? | ||
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On July 30 2015 02:39 GlowingBear wrote: No hopeless. If you are the cop and you hear that someone soft claimed cop, you should AT LEAST be suspicious of the guy and NOT say that you have nothing to explain. If you're cop you DO have to explain how could you be indifferent to Rayn's joke and even to Palmar's check claim on early day2. rayn likes to fakeclaim, i was afk for palmars and he rescinded before I was back. Snickers is baiting shots. If he hard claimed I'd have CC'd | ||
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On July 30 2015 02:44 scott31337 wrote: What reason did you check me for, Hopeless? I am curious. you were counter wagon, i wanted to know if it was scum/town or scum/scum. Palmar disagrees with my mentality but I figured scum would have had to be on your wagon as the only other option to FT | ||
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On July 30 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Can you guys stop fighting? I'm not even reading that capslock wall. i read it, its bullshit. Snickers, quote Clarity and show us. ##Give 1 post to snickers | ||
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On July 30 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote: Like I really thought I saw a snickers scum slip day 1 but think I just misread and didnt bring it up... But BF is final mafia I am like 90% sure. Snickers is the one who brought up clarity/slam being blue, just saying. | ||
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On July 30 2015 07:24 Onegu wrote: Btw should have know slam was scum because he didnt say Hijole, Svengali, or the other one since joining On July 30 2015 03:26 Alakaslam wrote: I want you butthijole's to start thinking this is Desert Center, ok? Everyone is VANILLA. Now who the phuk is scum, eh? Because that's probably the real scum. Ignore any post that says bs about blue shit because blue shit is for a portable toilet. Thanks. But I digress. | ||
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On July 31 2015 03:11 KelsierSC wrote: Is there a way we can vote to speed up the day? What if we all just spam 80 posts at the start of day!? | ||
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Why is rsoul godfather? what possible evidence is there for his nonsense? If this is his town game...I'm going to cry. | ||
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On July 31 2015 04:24 Palmar wrote: All the things you listed make him equally insane as mafia. yeah but using that blue hunting nonsense to protect clarity actually fits a scum agenda. | ||
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Still on that lynch snickers train, then BF, then obi. Would not lynch Palmar, onegu, or Scott ever. Rsoultin is strongly town but not at a would never lynch level, sorry. | ||
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