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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 22:23 GMT
#721
On July 27 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:


Now we lynch Scott


You can't be serious?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 22:34 GMT
#729
Final Day 1 Vote Count


FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
clarity_nl (1): rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, Snickers
Hopeless1der (1): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
boxerfred (1): Snickers, Snickers
KelsierSC (0): Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
raynpelikoneet (0): Palmar
rsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickers
palmar (0): FirmTofu

As the wind blows, FirmTofu is staring death in the face.
-
Kelsier puts his vote at 00 which would have not changed the outcome (Firm got 5 at first) so I don't want to put much thought into that vote, that has bitten me in the ass before.

GB still wanted the vote off of Tofu and tried a case on Kelsier and tried to get others to vote on me for quite a long time which looks pretty bad.

Makes me think Kelsier is town, and tofu tried to vote for him too.
Rayn Onegu pretty sure town.
OBS looks good too.
Palmar probably town too.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 23:20 GMT
#747
@GB if you pretend I am town, who are the other two mafia?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 01:58 GMT
#750
Do you think GB is town?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 05:58 GMT
#761
Give 5 posts to Rsoultin

So Clairty and Hopeless are your two mafia, is that correct?

What about Boxerfred? No mention of him in your post.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 06:00 GMT
#762
Give 5 posts to Snickers

I'm done now for tonight, g'night all.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 22:15 GMT
#833
We'll see if GB put down the crack yet or not...
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 22:15 GMT
#835
On July 28 2015 07:14 boxerfred wrote:
Why is there an edited out vote from scott?


I posted in the wrong thread look at the time - I got permission to remove the post (it was the vote count one I did)
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 22:24 GMT
#837
Snickers.

So you believe both wagons were mafia D1 at the end - is that correct?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 27 2015 22:26 GMT
#839
I was actually asking GB and telling him he forgot you in his list, but thanks
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 28 2015 00:01 GMT
#864
Fucking Mafiabear I knew it
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 28 2015 00:41 GMT
#877
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 28 2015 20:20 GMT
#1057
The thing I'm not caring for Clarity is it seems everyone is okay with lynching him in one way or another.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 29 2015 15:51 GMT
#1201
On July 29 2015 12:55 Snickers wrote:
GLOW BEAR IS MAFA

gb is mafia because he hard defended firm tofu day one and did not push scott. if you asked gb he would say snickers is a fucking dumbass and he pushed scott but lets look at the details.

gb comes with an interesting time with his kelsier push. it could be seen as a time to start a kelsier wagon in order to protect firm tofu. but thats not too scummy.

as the day goes on gb votes fly everywhere from keslier to firm tofu to scott. he also talks about wanting to lynch clarity.

at the end of the day here are the final votes

On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Night 1

(edited for vote tracker)

Final Day 1 Vote Count


FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
clarity_nl (1): rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, Snickers
Hopeless1der (1): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
boxerfred (1): Snickers, Snickers
KelsierSC (0): Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
raynpelikoneet (0): Palmar
rsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickers
palmar (0): FirmTofu

As the wind blows, FirmTofu is staring death in the face.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The live voting tracker is located here.
Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up!


before the final votes gb claims he pushed scott hard but in reality he defended firm tofu. Why?

because this is a list of the people he asked to not vote firm tofu and to go to scott.

Rayn, Palmar, kelsier

he also told rayn to vote clairty earlier and he told palmar to vote kelsier earlier. all over the place with who to lynch but not who to not lynch.

ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY

he never asks me, clarity or rsoultin to switch are votes to scott. Why wouldnt he if he wanted scott to be lynched?

gb also claims kelsier can not be scum because firm tofu pushed him. but firmtofu also pushed scott.
i think this was a way to not seem like for it to be scummy to ask kelsier to switch to scott. cause why ask scum read from day one (who you posted a huge post on) to go to scott.


This is basically Boxerfred's case but with less words, and my VC post with a lot less words as well, but those got blown over as well.

On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.


This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being

Show nested quote +
4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT

HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!!


Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB

1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong

the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game


Well, I think point 2 is damning enough.

I can get what you're saying about the others.

But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too.

I think it's very damning

I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches


Then, he joins the train:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu

I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.

##vote: FirmTofu


He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)

The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high

Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


[red]Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?


On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


[red]Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.


Thought process does not compute.

You think Tofu is Mafia
Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon.
The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there.
But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon.
You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then?
Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon?????

Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective

GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option

EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.

Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.

You can't me town.

PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott


Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!!



So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.



Look familiar? It got buried mostly though. GB's Day 1 looks pretty bad.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 29 2015 16:09 GMT
#1205
Looks like Hopeless looks like the best shot, but..... arrrrr

BF beefls the same way like me and Snickers about GB and his really bad D1
Palmar bussed and then did the fakeclaim for reactions - pretty confident he's town
Onegu "conf town"............arrr
Rsoul - I'm just so unsure and paranoid - Palmar made a great point - and I haven't seen any of her "magic tricks" yet - We'll see D3/D4
OWS seems townie although not much there?
Snickers pretty sure town just spammy, agrees on GB
Kelsier is just forgettable, but voted on Tofu wagon although tried the switch at 00 - but like I said before, thinking too much about those votes are a bad idea. still a townlean
Clarity - he's shit but every one wants him dead - prby RL issues
Hopeless looks the worse to me.

##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless1nder

I'll be back in a couple hours before deadline.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 29 2015 17:27 GMT
#1223
Sorry it had to come to that Hopeless.
##Unvote
##Vote Glowingbear


GB goes straight for the "Probably the GF"... Gotta love it. I mean people see GB be town but his EoD D1 was terrible.. Snickers and Boxer see it. Palmar slightly does.. No body else does though? I mean there's only two mafia left. Am I just blind or was it just bad townie play?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 29 2015 17:38 GMT
#1227
##Give 10 posts to Snickers
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 29 2015 17:44 GMT
#1233
What reason did you check me for, Hopeless?
I am curious.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 29 2015 18:07 GMT
#1256
On July 30 2015 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 02:27 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry it had to come to that Hopeless.
##Unvote
##Vote Glowingbear


GB goes straight for the "Probably the GF"... Gotta love it. I mean people see GB be town but his EoD D1 was terrible.. Snickers and Boxer see it. Palmar slightly does.. No body else does though? I mean there's only two mafia left. Am I just blind or was it just bad townie play?


I don't really think it was that weird for him to jump to the "possible Gf" angle.
You'll have to explain that bit to me.


It's not that it's the "possibility" which is a more townie perspective (I Won't go into the number crunching) but more it's the probability that "I'm the GF" fits his agenda.

I was the other wagon D1 - Beyond MAYBE XXX, I've never seen a scum/scum D1 wagon. It's very low.

I believe Hopeless without CC.

Snicker's story makes a lot of sense. (Sorry bud Can't give any more posts)

GB who do you want to lynch now?

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 29 2015 18:11 GMT
#1263
BTW Boxer/Snickers you can only give out 10 posts a day not 20 - I got told it D1 trying to give out 15. FYI
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