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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 15:44 GMT
#2084
That was to the whole "scum player" bit.

As for your whole bit on why I don't find you suspicious for being wrong, I just wrote a scumread out on someone who was on the Ft wagon. -.-
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 16:03 GMT
#2088
rofl
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 16:10 GMT
#2091
On August 08 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dear, from the flipped players. We know that firm tofu only made "cases" on town players. He reasoned his vote on Kelsier, he reasoned his vote on palmar. Hell, he preferred to townread hopeless to simply lynch Scott. That's when he saw he was going to get lynched. Would he start trying a counter wagon on a scum player or a town player?


when scum looks like they're going to be lynched, generally trying to read into their reads is a bit of a shot in the dark

he was clearly willing to lynch clarity. the case on scott has consistently given me pause, i'll admit

but as i said...ows/oneg/you all have reasons for me to townread you guys, and the night kills strongly suggest one of oneg/scott because they would be two of the easiest "confirmed" town nks to deny town information. they're both alive

what i'm failing to find is a reason in scott's own play, separate of all these other considerations, that makes him look town at all

he fell off majorly since the greencheck on him...and not much in the way of bringing his own observations to the game...looks a lot more like treading water

in gaiden he had a lot of interesting reads/comments/observations that he kept bringing forward that actually showed an interest in the game and solving it


Scott is clearly not fighting his lynch for someone who is the last Mafia.


Scott and Tofu are not the same person.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 17:08 GMT
#2095
On August 08 2015 01:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 01:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 08 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 08 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dear, from the flipped players. We know that firm tofu only made "cases" on town players. He reasoned his vote on Kelsier, he reasoned his vote on palmar. Hell, he preferred to townread hopeless to simply lynch Scott. That's when he saw he was going to get lynched. Would he start trying a counter wagon on a scum player or a town player?


when scum looks like they're going to be lynched, generally trying to read into their reads is a bit of a shot in the dark

he was clearly willing to lynch clarity. the case on scott has consistently given me pause, i'll admit

but as i said...ows/oneg/you all have reasons for me to townread you guys, and the night kills strongly suggest one of oneg/scott because they would be two of the easiest "confirmed" town nks to deny town information. they're both alive

what i'm failing to find is a reason in scott's own play, separate of all these other considerations, that makes him look town at all

he fell off majorly since the greencheck on him...and not much in the way of bringing his own observations to the game...looks a lot more like treading water

in gaiden he had a lot of interesting reads/comments/observations that he kept bringing forward that actually showed an interest in the game and solving it



Scott is clearly not fighting his lynch for someone who is the last Mafia.


Scott and Tofu are not the same person.


?

I meant scott clearly isn't fighting his own lynch when a mislynch today is crucial for Mafia win con


I understand what you're saying.
I'm saying that what you're saying isn't as relevant as you're saying it is.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 18:56 GMT
#2113
Going to work in 30 minutes, will be phoneposting if I have time.
Still think Gb should put more thought into Onegu.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:01 GMT
#2118
On August 08 2015 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Obi I find weird that you're voting scott instead of actually convincing us Onegu is a better lynch


/shrug
I explained why and you wrote it off because "cop check."

Honestly I'm just trying to see if there's a reasonable alternative to Scott and Onegu is the other lynch I could think of.

Still don't really want to lynch you or rso tbh and I think that you trying to look at us over onegu is kinda lame.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:27 GMT
#2120
Well
I said Scott was a better lynch.
Gb is talking about other possible lynches.
I talked about onegu.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:34 GMT
#2121
Where is onegu btw?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:44 GMT
#2124
On August 08 2015 05:38 rsoultin wrote:
oh you mean you explained why you're voting scott and gb wrote it off?

but he's lynching scott?

meh i'm just generally confused lol -_-


I'm talking about the fact that gb is talking about other lynches, that's it. I might have misspoke but w/e.

Honestly there's a good chance the game just ends today.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 21:58 GMT
#2131
Moment of truth I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 22:01 GMT
#2136
rofl
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:28 GMT
#2148
On August 09 2015 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
It's Onegu tomorrow, no one else
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:30 GMT
#2149
On August 09 2015 03:12 rsoultin wrote:
more seriously though, last post, i promise

i really think his saying he wants to lynch both scott and ft basically negates all the town cred i gave him for not going for a clar lynch. you start piling votes up on clar, much more likely one of the two is going to get lynched. clar was afk but if he hadn't been, the two of them lynching scott would have been enough to save ft quite easily

and obviously he argued against the slam lynch

whoever is in lylo should take that into account


I don't really understand this.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:43 GMT
#2151
On August 09 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
what's not to understand?

there are a limited number of votes

if you can keep votes (and let's be honest, tunneled rayn is tunneled) between one partner and a townie rather than both partners it's objectively better

i'm not saying it makes you scum. i'm saying it makes my "ironclad" townread on you not very ironclad at all

why have you been hard-defending me all game obi?


I don't understand how that's "objectively better," nor do I understand how that relates to my alignment.

I've been hard-defending you because I thought you were town and that the scumreads on you were nonsensical and bad.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:44 GMT
#2152
Like.
When has "mafia tone" ever outweighed solid analysis and trying to figure the game out?
How does that outweigh someone actually writing cases and getting stuff done?

I don't, haven't, and won't think that it does.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:52 GMT
#2154
On August 09 2015 03:45 rsoultin wrote:
why did you think i was town?

i think it's obvious but given how many players clearly don't agree...why are you so sure? what makes me town? i just fooled you pretty hard in gaiden

as to your alignment, it's my usual rack and stack

gb top town. if he's scum this game i'm horrible, even more horrible than i've already been lol ><

and i explained why i believe oneg is town. do you disagree with any of it?


I literally just explained it: your cases and activity have been strong and the case against you was bad.
I don't think too much of Gaiden because I stopped having fun with that game and basically stopped paying attention halfway through just because of the activity demands of the game, and even then I was under tremendous pressure from Hf which always fucks me up.

Ofc I disagree with onegu being town. Just because he can be absolutely shit as town doesn't mean that he can't do fuck all as mafia - claiming is basically the lynchpin of his play regardless of alignment and it's nowhere near unheard of for town to have a minimum in regards to roles.
I finished a game where he did literally ALL of the things you said as mafia.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:58 GMT
#2156
I think it was Generic Boring, last one in my list.

iirc, he DID switch to save shockeyy but I still think there are enough differences between this game and that one to say "bussing is a feasible thing" and shouldn't be off the table, what with a town this strong and active compared to that one.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 19:09 GMT
#2158
On August 09 2015 04:05 rsoultin wrote:
hmmm...looking through it i've got an itch to scratch related to ellipses

really random thing to key in on but there was excessive use in that game and i noticed that some seemed off in this one. will have to dive more games blah lol ><

the having more reads thing in his scum game still holds true in that one though, obi, unless he's made a ton of reads this one that i just haven't noticed in the midst of everything else


I don't really recall him making many reads in that game either but I don't have TL+.
I might have to buy it to double check.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 19:10 GMT
#2160
Yeh.
:/

I don't understand why you're so obsessed with being silent, btw.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 19:15 GMT
#2162
On August 09 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
well...keeping scum in the dark as to which kill is the best strategic kill?

not sure how effective it is anyway though lol ><


Yeah, that doesn't work ever.
Scum will just go back and look at the dayphase and shoot someone based on that.
It's useless.

Robik tried it in my first newbie game on the site and everyone in dead chat called him out on it.
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