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Welcome to my town | ||
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Plots tell me something interesting | ||
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On July 18 2015 08:36 KelsierSC wrote: Damdred might be mafia for talking like Cpt Kirk Damdreds log 17/7/2015: Today I found a most annoying way to play. This. Game. It probably makes Kel town the way he is acting but I am somewhat uncertain. Plot might be part of,the terrorist group I've,been looking for. Undecided at this,juncture. End transmission. | ||
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The non policy part is he complained about the game being slow didn't do,anything bit complain,about kels question,and went to sleep when people,showed up. I don't know if it makes him scum but it doesn't make him town. However oneg is interesting | ||
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I'm surprised and intrigued that neither of you asked why oneg is interesting | ||
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Geript any way to early thoughts | ||
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And you sound kinda angry so yeah. | ||
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So kel wasn't interacting but you were Over all I'm really getting a scum vibe off ff atm | ||
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For instance the somewhat pushing the policy lynch and some of his other posts just feel like he's thinking about the game a little bit at least. I can't quote atm but I'm pretty sure he is town. Oneg might be scum for actually trying early d1 instead of using the oneg rule or trolling around until later. I think rayn is town here, he seems much more measured. Like kels as well. And to ff statement about anger some of your posts fo feel angry or perturbed like when I had to drag a interaction out of you, and when you are willing to get your page of filter fast about nothing meh ff could still be scum | ||
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1) FF did in fact basically say I want to get all my one page over. Then complained about it being totally fluff, or that he hoped it wouldn't be -shrug- 2) Tonr wise he does sound perturbed or angry that he had to ask about that part of my post when I found it interesting nobody even asked. 3) You are obviously not reading if you can't see I had to pry ff to interact on the point of oneg basically. The funny thing is that most of this stuff I pointed out BEFORE you initially town read me. And the cases don't look anything alike since I don't have a case but a slight lean I was explaining. | ||
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Anyway I did say most of it before you gave your initial town read on me. And how you can have a strong town read on ff no clue shrug, his town games better then this to an extreme. Idk what the point is trying to crucify me over an early lean but its whatever I don't really care | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: You said yes now that i reread. I don't usually read irrelevant comments like that, because they are irrelevant. It just goes unnoticed for me. I have a town read on FF because of the conversation he had with you as he is questioning you over something i found really dumb from you (the Onegu thing). Apparently you somehow interpret that one totally differently. yeah I do actually because he isn't the one to bring oneg up initially I'm the one who brings it up and asks why neither of them ask about it and then get surly after he asks. So I still don't get how he gets town points for me initiating him asking about it | ||
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I put that out there FF asks me something in the post I go well I'm more interested in why neither of you ask me about oneg now (towards kel and ff) ff goes -sigh- why is oneg interesting then I go byeee | ||
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On July 18 2015 09:33 Damdred wrote: Phone likes to,screw with me,while I'm,typing making me look like Kirk. I'm surprised and intrigued that neither of you asked why oneg is interesting like you are missing this when ff asks me what's up with the commas but totally misses the other tgings | ||
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On July 19 2015 02:54 geript wrote: @Damdred. Explain your Kelsier read. Sure, its partly meta based with how kel handles certain things in the thread. As mafia he generally doesn't get involved early in everything and instead just looks at one or two things without interjecting a lot of his own thoughts. Here I think he's been pretty involved and going against things that he doesn't agree with and pushes his own idea and even though its early he does sorta look at plot through different angles and his explanation and re evaluates. Its a bit early to declare him 99% town but id be pretty happy with saying he's town. | ||
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I don't think geript is a good lynch at all. Its based a bit on crappy meta and gut feelings a bit. Meh | ||
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One thing I've noticed about geript as scum os his ability to make posts early that are extremely sensible but have the ability to try to get people on his side. One thing to look at is assassination mafia while its not a perfect example his explanation and posting made it extremely easy for GB and myself to like him to a degree. Kel caught him for an odd follow up explanation there, in art big game he had some of the same thing going on and rayn caught him for a somewhat changing story. In his town games he doesn't care who comes against him as he will just take the lynch and uell at people later. I just think this looks more like his town game calls out whatever he wants without trying to get on peoples good side. Even if what he's saying doesn't make 100% sense to everyone it seems to be what he thinks and I kinda think it makes him town. | ||
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On July 19 2015 04:45 Fecalfeast wrote: After reading geript I thought he didn't seem too bad but kelsier is correct that yamato never actually responded to geript. I personally don't think this alone is enough to lynch geript though. I would much rather kill plotspot at this juncture I noticed that you don't really have much justification, why is geript not so bad here? Why plot here? | ||
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On July 19 2015 05:02 KelsierSC wrote: yeh damdred, give him lessons on justifying towngeript! I figured one person would give a sarcastic remark. Nobody responded to why I think he's town, however I think its a good point if someone says I don't think x is bad after reading they need to show some form of reasoning behind it | ||
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Ibsaid it was hard to quantify, I don't think that makes it invalid at all as he is clearly saying whatever the hell he wants if it makes sense or not. in other games he tries to get on peoples good sides and that's where it gets somewhat inconsistent. I explained what he got caught on but it doesn't invalidate what I said though, or the main poont | ||
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What in context really caused the 180 flip | ||
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On July 18 2015 18:07 JonnyLaw wrote: well seems dead here. 3am and head full of beer i'll be back in the morning. ff seems relaxed to me. comfortable acting as a townie even. kelsier's aggressive. geript's posts make no sense to me. Yhis seems a bit weird to me. The ff read I want explained a bit more and the kel/geript thing now when he gets here. I don't believe in scum slips but that sentence about ff acting as a townie kinda rubs me wrong | ||
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While,Johnny hasn't done anything, and ff is interesting. Ff to an extent isn't doing work and doesn't really push anything just kind of oh the side line not doing anything. | ||
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I'd rather lynch into jjohnny/ff I think Johnny strange posts make me,want to lynch him a bit more. But ff posts make,me,scratch,my head. Like his weird 180 I'm not sure if this is more town or scum. Like he does it in the same post but doesn't push any of,his scum reads either. | ||
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I really don't want to lynch Yamato today. And I'm not sold about Kel today, like I can see him doing it as town and my gut says town atm. Why wouldn't you want to lynch Johnny today geript | ||
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On July 20 2015 00:38 geript wrote: Add to this that yam doesn't care about killing plotspot at all either. Yam is a salty bitch and would follow through on his nacly if she were town. Like maybe Yam's on her period but that's unlikely. Do you want to,kill plot btw? | ||
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However why is it that you have talked about Yamato so,much but have decided to lynch between rayn and johnny? | ||
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On July 20 2015 00:45 geript wrote: I want to kill one of Johnny and Rayn. And currently Raynes the winner ther. As for plot. Who fucking knows. He's a policy lynch. To me this sorta reads like you are deciding between the two. Not that you think one is scum other not | ||
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Rayn/Johnny Yamato Kel Ff Is this pretty close. | ||
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Also I've posted a little about ff the past little,bit what do you think of it | ||
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It doesn't make sense in one regard for scukfeast to do that like,that. But on the other hand lack of real trying I hold,against him. But I'd probably lynch Johnny over him maybe not lynch him at all today hrm | ||
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On July 20 2015 01:13 Rels wrote: Caught up with the thread. I agree that geript is weird today. This post in particular: geript, if you've been clear about this, I didn't understand. I had the same interrogation than KSC. But I don't want to lynch him today, 'cause I can't imagine a mafia being that loud about something day 1, when it's the easiest way to being lynch. I think Damdred said something similar about geript, like if he was mafia he would be way nicer than that. So what's your read on Geript exactly | ||
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On July 20 2015 01:21 Rels wrote: Town lean. Town points for being loud and talkative in a dead thread. Scum points for this contradiction: - he said yamato should be more dickish - KSC quoted a previous post of yamato and asked geript if he didn't find that post dicking - geript didn't answer the question and got angry So you give him more town points for the talking than the contradiction that's interesting. I'm not sure it's a contradiction necessarily meh. What do you think of rayn and why johnny | ||
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I think Johnny is scum for weird talk and general not caring. And listening to cases on rayn. Idk how I'm not trying tos ave Geript,either,meh | ||
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On July 20 2015 01:30 Rels wrote: rayn seemed too nice to me to be town. I mean until now (= Don't know why but jonny's posts left a scummy impression on me, I'll reread them ... after I see if rayn's accusation of you is true or not. How was rayn being to nice? I don't get it he hasn't been any nicer than normal to me? What does it make him? Waiting on Johnny read | ||
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Sure I am, I keep bringing the idea of Johnny or ff up to get someone other than Geript,lynched. | ||
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##vote raynpelikoneet | ||
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Thinks,I'm a great town read early after I give reasons for ff scum lean. He shot fights with me and says I'm scum because of restated reasons of why ff was scum even though he town read me after I initially said then. Nothing happens all,of a sudden rayn says damdred is probably town again. One I'm,scum for,not,pushing anything,when I've,been,questioning and putting what I,think,in,thread Rayn is scum | ||
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I'd vote Johnny or rayn today. Why the did you change order geript | ||
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On July 20 2015 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: His FF case is bad. His vote on me is bad. That's all he has really done. He hasn't done anything else. Almost as bad as someone not reading,the game,eh rayn | ||
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On July 20 2015 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also thought you think i am scum which makes me not bad, but scum. So am i bad or scum? Because you are saying both here. Not true I think your bad as scum to | ||
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##unvote ##Vote Jonnylaw | ||
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The rest of the points are true but don't,make,him,scum | ||
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And I'd rather not lynch Yamato today | ||
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You beat me,to the question rels so yeah gj | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:04 JonnyLaw wrote: oh uhh...sure I don't know what I was thinking there to be honest. I was writing a quick post before I passed out after a late night. Apparently it's what I felt at that particular moment. We can debate this one line if that's what you want but I'd rather talk about someone important. I want to know where geript's tunneled idea comes from that either rayn OR I have to be scum. Checking now, but as far as I recall he's picking out two players who didn't interact in the thread and calling one of them scum. it feels like a ploy, i mean like a set up play to divert attention. Think this way. "i'm going into this game with this plan to keep town focused on two people." that's not town behavior. It's a way to get town lynched, possibly two of them. this keeps the town distracted when one of them flips green. brilliant but i'm not digging it geript. ##vote geript I'm 99% sure that's not what Geript is doing | ||
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You vote Geript on a sort of,made up reason saying,he's only focusing on two people and drawing all,attention to,them. Which is a lie btw, | ||
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Pay attention,and talk about what rels and I are saying about jonny read his vote on Geript. Talk about that | ||
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Kel as stubborn as you are, tell keywords the vote on,Geript doesn't look,horrible by jonny | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:37 KelsierSC wrote: i'm trying to figure him out right now. I don't think im being particularly stubborn, again there has been no refutation to my case and geript refuses to answer questions but instead says horrible things about me so I have no reason to change my read right now, And tell me how that's good mafia play by geript? In assassination when you were heavily suspicious of him didn't he bend,over backwards to get you off his back? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me do Geript as scum to basically say f you I think,x y z is scum. | ||
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Yes he was he was the smurf talking dead or something like that. And that game is very very his scum,game | ||
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On July 20 2015 03:44 KelsierSC wrote: additionally I am presenting a clear case here with evidence from this game, so "look how he behaved in this game X months ago" does not hold much sway with me. That's to bad the,because what you are saying doesn't make him,scum at all just dick town | ||
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My reads are clear plot, Kel is dumb town. Geript also thinks rayn is town | ||
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Your confirmation biased at this point Kel. You are omgus biased Geript. Her over it and vote jonny | ||
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You are stuck in the narrative and everything that happens you aren't looking at it and trying to,'re evaluate even when your town reads are saying Geript is probably town | ||
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I think jonny saying he's going to,be here till deadline and not doing anything but voting Geript badly is telling since he hit resistance. Rayn not caring around the lynch is...interesting I guess but Idk. | ||
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So let's talk this out. The two people who,have a reasonable shot are jonny, Yamato and maybe,rayn. Jonny has been,stated why several times by rels and myself. The pocketing thing by Yamato is interesting but I've,seen,him do things like this as town. Though it's interesting ff just voted and doesn't care afterwards so that's troubling to | ||
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I'm here look at what plot just wrote and freaking tell,me,it's not weird and Mafish Kel is probably town, Yamato I'd rather lynch someone else today | ||
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I was just paranoid | ||
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I think we have one,mafia on wagon and one off though. Gut feeling it's ff and rayn. | ||
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On July 20 2015 07:20 Fecalfeast wrote: Why come back and vote my teammate when he's not really being wagoned rather than help push someone else? Because he was being wagond, I had been pushing him prior And rels pushed the crap out of him. Everyone else was getting shut down basically. I need you to do work ff because I need to figure out if he spewed you town or struggled to give his team mate a town read. | ||
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I'm not sure it makes him scum but so many early tr bother me as well. But it might resolve itself shortly what do you think of Jonny and his tr on ff now | ||
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i'll have some more in depth thoughts shortly, but I kinda feel that rayn is town here again. | ||
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I did ask geript to help me understand the thought process he saw that's true, and the weird read on jl made me question your alignment. and I went townish-scum-town ty very much | ||
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JL town read on him is still bothering me and it feels like a read you give to a mafia team mate over a town member. Plus he was sorta buddying towards geript about a Yamato lynch, jumped on jl at a good time I admit but I think we were pushing that through anyway, even though he promises work he gives nothing back. I'm pretty sure he's the best vig shot tonight | ||
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I'm not sure that his weird reaction to my tr and rayns tr makes him scum. Townies don't make sense all the time and not sure if he's scum why he doesn't get town cred for voting jl instead of somewhat pushing against it. I'm not sure if lynch him tommorow ehh | ||
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On July 21 2015 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand FF's attack on Rels on N1. Now he claims it is not an attack. But then, wtf is it? Like what is the reason to question a perfectly valid statement if it not an attack? I like this point to. | ||
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And I believe I started pushing them back, simple truth I don't think geript could of convinced the people who were active to go I guess? | ||
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Yamato only got a lot more attention when the geript wagon died down, so its super possible that mafia team was more afk and whoever was active might of thought it better foe the town cred. The Yamato push came a hit late in earnest to me at least | ||
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onegu might be a good shot to though, Yamato idk I still have reservations. Va what are the thoughts on him | ||
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Well I don't think a check on rels is a good idea honestly, even if it is newer mafia thing to go after other team mates usually. But what's the point coming into thread casing your team mate reading geript as town and pushing the lynch, a negative though he did go away after the initial push. I just don't understand why mafia rels wouldn't hammer town geript when scim were starting to move on geript at that point. | ||
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However what's the point of bussing your team mate into the ground that early when you an take out a strong player in geript, or a lynch in Yamato where half the game wouldn't blame anyone for voting? | ||
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can't not lynch a red check here | ||
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Besides that Yamato is town | ||
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so I guess just going by everything I think the last scum is between plots and ff. I think oneg reaction makes him towny, I think kel is town, rayn is acting towny, Yamato makes sense as town honestly he's still playing, geript is town I still think. Va I think is town but always suspicious of him. Honestly I'm happy voting either of these off | ||
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So I think meta wise reason to think geript is town, game play wise I don't see mafia motivation in what he's done. Plus scum tried to kill him with a vote so it leads me to think geript is town. Yamato would be by himself as scum, he's never winning this game he's been assholey its true and kinda afk at points hut he would of conceded this game here. He's town. onegu had a fake red check on him, his reaction felt really good to me and felt like he was town going down to a point. So that's the top three most disputed players currently. this leaves us where scum has to be in VA, Rayn, Me, Kel, plot, fecalfeast I'm town, helped lead lynch on Jonny etc. rayn looks pretty towny posted a lot has totally been re evaluating and questioning people seems pretty balanced and doesn't tilt ND not come back from it. Just from this game he looks town. Things I said about kel still apply he is involved in everything, want him to say what he's learned reaction wise. But I think he's pretty towny. Honestly last scum has to be either ff or plot. We have three mislynches until mylo, plot posts feel strange after d2 start or his post. Nothing about the red check like he knew it wad fake just wanted to talk about rels. ff could be scum but idk lynch both win game | ||
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And I guess my reads this game was pretty good had Jonny as scum most of d1 and plot scum for d2. I did get side tracked on ff a bit but I just wanted him to play like I know he can. anyway gg all. ##vote plot] XD | ||
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Your play d1 wasn't horrible rayn, you successfully identified town, you didn't want to end up fighting with me when we could have making it harder to find mafia and you were questioning scum plot so overall I think you played well. I am sorry I called ff town but besides that I feel ok had a really hard time elaborating on gut reads this game though, or meta reads that were a bit harder to explain like why not to shoot yamato. | ||
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Milo is usually pretty active idk what was up with that weird. | ||
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I think Jonny lynch was a really good lynch as town decided to lynch him instead of super active geript, and what I thought was town Yamato. After that its sorta a wash as Milo didn't try but plot gave himself away. ty for the game hf | ||
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