TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden

On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:

Scum #2 I've caught.

On July 07 2015 01:03 Palmar wrote:

I don't necessarily think being inconsistent/bad makes geript scum. It wasn't really a case just pointing it out.

On July 07 2015 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
lol i don't see a game where trfel has ever posted nothing for so long and it's hilarious that people keep defending him for it

On July 07 2015 01:07 Holyflare wrote:


and that game's name was?

On July 07 2015 01:10 Holyflare wrote:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=Trfel

if you're talking about carol that's the most disingenuous read ever

On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:

1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something.
2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you.
3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me.
4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town.

Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing.

On July 07 2015 02:32 Holyflare wrote:


then why on earth did you ever want to sheep trfel read in the first place?? This is the most bs post ever dude

On July 07 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
If by forcing you to read him one way or another you mean presenting logical and well thought out facts that counter your made up heresay facts from carol that ended up not even being true then sure.

On July 07 2015 02:48 Harkon wrote:
Rsoultin and HF.

Please stop shitting up the thread with this unless you have new relevant arguments about someones alignment. Yes, it is weird how dismissive and condescending Holyflare is towards you, rsoultin. I am well aware of that. But instead of ranting about it try to find actual arguments for why what he says about Trfel is not true. If you are town you are not achieving anything by throwing a fit.
HF stop trying to make her rage. It's the best excuse for her to avoid contributing meaningful things.

On July 07 2015 02:50 KelsierSC wrote:


i mean it wasn't that crazy, could have been important and it was better than watching marv and oats have a dick measuring contest.

On July 07 2015 02:41 Holyflare wrote:
yeh what a useless post again

On July 07 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote:


I'm not sure how my posts in between are relevant at all since i'm not defending the stance that I was a dick. I'm saying I had a purpose and you repeatedly spewed tmi or an inability to see the direction of where things were going. If your read is null and someone is pushing something then I have no idea why you'd go in the opposite direction and defend them when your read is null.

On July 07 2015 03:05 Holyflare wrote:


geript has done nothing and has posted reads that don't make sense and are unexplained, it means nothing it's geript

damdred focusing on ls so much is very weird but damdred's other scum reads are good and i'm waiting for his list of town reads

ruxxar is so totally different from the last game i have no idea how people can scum read him

ls has done nothing scummy yet to be scum read

On July 07 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:


geript has done this as mafia - the read on sandroba in JOAT is what comes to mind when they were both mafia, not to mention he has gotten mislynched before when people don't understand him - there was Carnaval and also NSM11...

And I don't know how you can say ruxxar "is so totally different" when in last game he replaced in and he could play the way he did partially because he replaced in. I'm not saying that in of itself makes him one alignment or another but I think the basis for your comparison is flawed. Also, Ras did make a good point on him on the LS quote "lynching for bad reasons" and I see the phrasing from ruxxar like "how are you not explaining yourself in a clear and concise manner," etc etc it is just like some of the phrasing he DID use last game as mafia. Granted, maybe I have to read his NSM11 game one more time since I thought he was mafia from the obs qt, he didn't do a great job for himself in that game. But some of hte things he says I do get a feel that he tries to turn things around on people. If he does that as town or did that as town in NSM, then different criteria should be used to evaluate him.

On July 07 2015 03:17 Half the Sky wrote:


What phrase/words struck you as "bait" (or loaded, etc)? I remember reading his questioning and he's been on about LS I think for most of his time in game?

On July 07 2015 04:15 Damdred wrote:


Ls and I have interactions like that early in every game because he has tells that he refuses to change for the most part in his meta, or just doesn't care as scum.

On July 07 2015 04:15 Vivax wrote:
If ritoky is scum clarity is as well cause it's the only thing he commented about on now that he's back. Such a shift in attention isn't justified based on clarity's former suspects.

On July 07 2015 04:17 ritoky wrote:


It is majority lynch, halfway to a majority; no point in risking it. I am a low priority rb/nk at this point so bullets and abilities wasted on me is as beneficial to the town as a check. Plus pregnant wife close to giving birth and not caring about wanting to defend myself.

On July 07 2015 04:20 ritoky wrote:


Believe it or not pregnancy takes 9 months.

On July 07 2015 06:29 Damdred wrote:
Ehhhhh.

I'm kinda torn on the claim honestly, like if you look at one of the titanic games where rit was a medic he did an excellent job not claiming until super late in the game. And he generally doesn't claim much and hates claiming from my experience with him, the only game I can think of when hes claimed super early was when he was the mass healing doctor in that theme'd game.

I could see town rit doing it, scum rit likes to take things serious and contribute least amount as possible and see how he can skate by on things. So I could see it coming from either alignment.

I don't think I would lynch him today and risk it though.

On July 07 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote:


I'm not sure that matters so much to me exactly, I just looked at the op about the 1 shot mechanic. Why should it give me more pause

On July 07 2015 06:48 Harkon wrote:

Why would a fakeclaim be more generic? 1-shot is the best fakeclaim.

On July 06 2015 08:51 scott31337 wrote:


What do you think about Obi's shit vote? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but would he really try that as scum?



Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm

On July 06 2015 09:36 scott31337 wrote:


No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)

On July 07 2015 16:28 geript wrote:
Like that's at least the second time he's read something completely wrong in addition to taking things out of context. He's a quite decent lynch as well.

On July 07 2015 16:39 geript wrote:



Seems quite clear. Kelsier's all like, "LOL WUT??? U LIKE MARV'S BIG GAY DICK?" Scott's all like, "U RED DAT RONG BITCH. I DON'T LIKE MARV BUT HE MAY BE WAITING FOR PALMER."

I understand that english isn't your first language. But your comprehension is terrible. Somehow you thought Oats was the thread sentiment when I pushed him. Now you're trying to make a case where there's literally nothing there. You're completely divorced from any sort of actual reality. I'm just trying to figure out if you're a few nuts short of a fruitcake or if you're plain old mafia. Either way, you're a detriment.

fixed for prettiness

Marv only has this one post. Marv isn't looking good and we know how much he loves rolling mafia. Marv looks worse than HF right now. hmmm

On July 07 2015 16:50 geript wrote:
It's pretty clear. In the first he's talking about Marv lacking impetus to post/play as mafia. In the second he's saying maybe Marv is town wants to have fun with Palmer instead of other shit. But Scott is clear that he still doesn't like the low activity. They're conflicting thoughts along the same line. It's not Marv clearly 100% mafia then Marv clearly maybe 50% mafia. It's, "I don't like Marv's low activity and that makes me think he's mafia but maybe he just wants to be chill this game instead of 20p filters. This isn't rocket science.

On July 08 2015 02:59 Half the Sky wrote:


Are you still getting the same scum vibes from Damdred?

On July 08 2015 03:07 Half the Sky wrote:


The behaviour imo doesn't back his claim up, the point was also made that 1-shot anything is an easy claim to make.

If you look at his reads throughout all of day 1, he presents two lists of reads (ls/milo/x) and then of those scumreading him (damdred, ksc,myself and a 4th) and just assumes soemone on there is scum profiting off a bad read which in of itself ISN'T a bad thing however, you'd be expecting some follow through on those initial reads. He was asked if he had any scumreads and he apparently didn't have any and he scumread and dropped OWS - at this point it's not clear where his scumreads are in the game. He did post he'd be on low activity and I can appreciate that with RL but he doesn't need a 20 page filter to make a shortlist of top scumreads.

On July 07 2015 02:31 Harkon wrote:

1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something.
2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you.
3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me.
4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town.

Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing.

On July 08 2015 03:25 Harkon wrote:

I still have no problem with lynching him. No idea why HF changed his mind about him.

On July 08 2015 03:27 Harkon wrote:

No idea where you see a strong preference.

On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.

On July 08 2015 05:06 Clarity_nl wrote:


Who do you want to lynch Vivax? Assume geript is off the table

On July 08 2015 05:18 geript wrote:
Basically here's the wagon options. If you're not on one of these, then you're not helping/mafia:
1. Ritoky--Of the claims, he's my preferred lynch. Plus he'll do anything as any alignment re: claiming. But I think he might be town from a few posts he's made
2. Damdred--Not playing his town game whatsoever. Maybe he's busy. Maybe he's trying new things. Maybe his wife's pregnant. Maybe his wife got shot again. IDK. But he's really off imo.
3. Rsoultina--I don't have a great read on her. HF thinks she's scum. I don't have a reason to townread her.
4. Bill Murray--A good D1 lynch if we can't find something better. He's been exceptionally useless and usually he says at least 1 interesting thing as town.

On July 08 2015 05:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hi fam I'm here, let me read thread and shit

On July 08 2015 07:08 geript wrote:
Vivax buying the claim so hard is rather interesting though.

On July 08 2015 15:54 Clarity_nl wrote:







Here's how I remember the last hour of day 1.

So I sheeped marv onto ritoky. I was fine with the lynch but I was wondering if maybe keeping him alive to hinder scum in case he's town was a good play, but as marv said it's probably not enough, combined with no real better realistic options in my mind after some thought I agreed and hopped aboard the ritoky train.

I come back and it's about 45min to lynch time (I expected it to be 1h45m but I'm dumb I guess) I see MZ has voted me and said nothing, I'm quickly reading through the thread and figure that although there is a good chance there's scum between the cop claims, that will partially resolve itself through the night so with a better lynch on the the table I get on it.

MZ actually starts posting and explaining he forgot the game started etc etc I don't remember what it was but I kinda believed him, then someone pointed out that he had to type /confirm and I went oh, well he's scum then kill it with fire. Someone else pointed out the /confirm was 30/06 and then I kinda waffled on him but stuck to it. I don't remember who brought it up but someone pointed out a BM lynch is pretty similar to an MZ lynch, and I figured between the two I'd rather have someone who will have to contribute from now on compared to someone who is just always going to be a lurker lynch.


In my memory all my vote-switches make tons of sense, so I don't quite see what the issue is?

On July 08 2015 18:53 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i dunno if i want to lynch him.

i just think these townreads/leans for what he did when he came back are fucking absurd.

On July 08 2015 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
do you think MZ's read on you is reasonable, Vivax?

On July 08 2015 19:08 marvellosity wrote:

you agree you've been playing like a jackass then?

On July 08 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax why aren't you suspicious of me at all?

On July 08 2015 19:35 boxerfred wrote:
absolutely nothing happened that would move my scum reads. though thread attention shifted.

also I don't like Kelsier. Leaning scum (tone thing, also he contributed way more when in Himalayas).

would insta-lynch clarity

On July 08 2015 02:54 boxerfred wrote:
Oats still has not delivered anything useful by the way. Only responding, derailing, not throwing in anything that would bringt town any further.

On July 08 2015 02:05 boxerfred wrote:
So let me just throw out that I'm really unsure about HtS and KSC's alignments. I remember Kelsier being way more active and way better as town in the (one..) game I played with him. And I remember that HtS pretty much had the same "I post long posts without pushing too hard" tone in the game where she was scum.

ritoky's claim is weak af, I'd prefer to lynch between Oats and Clarity, who are my top scum reads. I'm fine with lynching ritoky if the majority goes for him though. WoS is also fine.

On July 08 2015 02:46 boxerfred wrote:
I'm saying we lynch Oats over ritoky because Oats is actively throwing more trash in the thread.

On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).

On July 08 2015 01:56 boxerfred wrote:

I do absolutely not understand the town lean in breshke, clarity and LS.

oats - I liked the xp read on rsoul initially, been up in people's face

Clarity - The initial posts weren't great but perhaps he was
just excited to play, I really liked his scum read on WoS, he had pressure
on him but he scumread the one guy sort of townreading him out of nowhere
that felt really good. since then his posting has been solid, comments about
trefl and bf seem alright.

On July 08 2015 20:20 boxerfred wrote:

Because that's what I do when I get frustrated over afk lynches that flip town when there's way better people to lynch. Noballs town.

I'm fine with lynching ritoky if the majority goes for him though.

On July 10 2015 19:06 marvellosity wrote:

you know you might get lynched if you don't find some energy from somewhere at some point, right?

On July 11 2015 04:50 Half the Sky wrote:


That's sort of the point I was trying to progress with the first half of my case. The parts about geript and Damdred.

For geript he clarified his stance. At that time why did you still want to kill him? I'll try and break this down for you - when I was reading your filter he is clarifying himself and then you go to say "I don't want to distract from killing geript, etc etc" (paraphrasing, see the quote I posted AFTER my case) so that tells me you are still very much wanting to lynch him then.

Shouldn't your opinion have changed? Or did you have a reason at that time it did not? That is what I was driving at.

On July 11 2015 05:01 Half the Sky wrote:


So now that you are on board with lynching Damdred, etc. Where do you stand on the rest? If you assume there's 1-2 within the claims, do you even have a hunch of where other scumreads could be?

I assume WoS and MZ are (still??) on your list, if they are not then whom?

On July 11 2015 05:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Vivax , what do you think of boxer at this point?

On July 11 2015 06:06 ruXxar wrote:
@Vivax.

I'm really curious what you meant with this quote:


It seems like you're somehow sad that an opportunity to jump on a trfel scum train went away.
This was the last time you mentioned trfel in your filter and it was N1.

On July 11 2015 06:35 ruXxar wrote:


I think damdred flips red.
Damdred is playing totally different from the last game.
Way too mellow for my taste.

On July 11 2015 12:22 Holyflare wrote:


I don't see how that's interesting since your defence was incredibly scummy. You said "oh he posted more than j remember i don't want to vote him" yet the scum read was because he posted a lot but said nothing. Hence your defence was scummy even if trfel was not to him.

On July 11 2015 12:28 Holyflare wrote:


Funny how time changes things isn't it? I don't see how this reaction is warranted in any way either since I'm talking about Scott's post and you've somehow made it about my independent trfel read.

I scum read trfel for reasons. You jumped on the wagon. You then read trfel's filter and said you wouldn't lynch him because of the same reasons i wanted to lynch him in the first place. It was pretty scummy. It's a good read and has nothing to do with trfel's alignment.

On July 11 2015 13:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

explain.

On July 11 2015 13:25 Oatsmaster wrote:

No, explain now.

It cant be that hard.

You clearly had some idea.

On July 11 2015 13:29 Oatsmaster wrote:


Explain who is mafia if MZ is mafia.

Why didnt you post this after bm flipped?

On July 11 2015 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote:

So instead you are gonna fart around and do nothing.

Ok.

Doc Bum pulled out a folder and held up a large picture of a person smiling with a name at the bottom of the photo. It said - HolyFlare- Geript looked at the photo and bum asked him "How does this picture make you feel" Geript shrugged and said "alright I guess". Doc bum nodded and jotted down some notes. He then pulled another large photo of a person smiling this one had marvelosity written at the bottom. "And how does this one make you feel geript?" Bum asked softly. Geript eyed up the pic and again shrugged. "I dont know. Im fine." he said with a bored look. "Hmmkay good good" doc bum said as he jotted in his notepad again.

He once again pulled out a pic of a person smiling this time the name said BlazingHand and held it up to geript. Upon seeing the grinning Blazinghand person he started to twitch and turn red. the vein in his forehead began to tick as if keeping time. sweat poured out of geripts skin and he started to growl a deep guttural growl of primal anger. I was shocked at the amount of rage radiating from the center of the room. Doc Bum asked again "how does this pic make you feel geript"
Geript Screamed a howling roar of a mad man who had just swan dived off the edge of sanity and flipped the table in front of him with a violent jerk. Geripts eyes rolled wildly in his head as gmarsh motioned to the back of the room and two orderlies in white coats stepped into the light behind him. I seen the name tags "Kush" and "Viscera" as the clamped their hands down on his back.

Geript struggled against them and kush muttered. "Dont make me get the hose again" This only seemed to send geript into more spasms of rage. doc bum put the picture back in the folder and snapped it shut quickly, jotted some more stuff in his note pad and frowned. "as you can see" Gmarsh started "There is quite a bit of leftover hostility from previous mafia games in geripts mind that can become quite a problem as the anger stacks up, but we think we may have found the solution" he nodded at doc bum and said "begin post game behavior modification sequence." Bum walked over to a control panel and pushed a button. Gmarsh turned back around to me and started to speak again. "You see we have installed this bad behavior preventative measure into each of our spiffy tlmafia collars that will automatically engage at the end of every game to assure that there will never be any hard feelings left lingering from previous matches in the next round of mafia."
Just then I heard a small mechanical whirling noise emitting from geript as a small shiny contraption folded out of the back of the collar. It looked like a tiny metal pen and sounded similar to one of those electric pencil sharpeners. The object poked into the back of the subjects head and began to whirl vigorously.

On July 12 2015 20:07 Breshke wrote:
from my quick skim noone seems to mention my name when considering the lurkers so its probably a bad sign because when people remember i exist they will probs want to lynch me.

Have you worked out how to read bluehunter vivax or is it just dope because you have no idea how to read him still?

On July 09 2015 08:43 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
My only other aside from this that im trying to think about:

if damdred indeed is mafia then that means mafia has 2 other members that they thought were better to carry KP. I would think damdred would be the ideal KP carrier in this situation where hes not that highly suspected but also a bit scummy so its not a complete loss if he gets figured out.

Usually teams default to players like this to carry KP so im trying to think about this. oh well 48 hours.

On July 08 2015 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Should just do it now tbh. The downside of being wrong on an active player is always, always worse than killing someone that won't post and won't do things.

Information lynches are spectacular and I love backing them, but there aren't that many despite the amount of associative reads being thrown around (which I, myself, put no stock into because associatives are hard to determine as a whole and most people get them wrong anyway)

On July 08 2015 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
(Plus there's the fact that MZ threw his vote away on someone that was never getting lynched today for no reason, which was scummy.)

On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly.

On July 08 2015 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I voting MZ for now because I don't want to get mod killed but he didn't exactly sya anything in his filter outside let me check the thread and shit. I have a bad feeling about this though because the wagon formed so fast :|

On July 08 2015 06:43 scott31337 wrote:
I'll switch if needed but I believe the wanderer claim without CC

On July 12 2015 23:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Nice misrep.
I spent the later parts of day 1 defending ritoky and pushing MZ.
I don't see how this is relevant anyway.

On July 10 2015 15:14 scott31337 wrote:


Are you serious? the person who claims at the slightest emotion of pressure fake-claimed? AHAHAHAHA

I am so sick of him claiming on a breath of wind and hopefully he will learn one fucking day - because it does not help town being so panicky - I 99.9% believe the claim though - I believe you are grasping at straws.

You seem to have read the thread though, or a summary in the ScumQT

On July 13 2015 00:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've been talking about scott forever. Scott is still a fantastic lynch I think.
Are we really going to push that over a milo wagon today though?

On July 13 2015 00:36 Harkon wrote:

First of all that is exactly what he is doing and second of all that's the weakest reason ever.

On July 13 2015 00:57 Holyflare wrote:


No i think they are all absolutely shit and look like potential busses where you all know he is mafia and point out posts that don't look like they are mafia posts or have mafia intentions at all.

Ironically I think trfel made the best read on Scott and it looked quite good.

On July 13 2015 01:18 Holyflare wrote:
How does that make him mafia?

On July 13 2015 01:26 Holyflare wrote:


Vivax what do you think?

On July 13 2015 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
So then why doesn't she want to lynch me after everything she has been saying about me all game?

On July 13 2015 01:41 ruXxar wrote:


This is a really strange post.
Why does mafia say this?

On July 13 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote:


i'd rather lynch scott of the three if we're not lynching milo lol >< i really have no opinion on blue at all, despite not liking his one post today

but yeah geript saying he's va? that was the same impression i got...and i can never read him -_- the nk analysis thing that makes little sense and leads nowhere is kinda classic va

On July 13 2015 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
Rofl hahaha man....

I also just haven't been here was busy socialising so that's why i saw stupid things and sniped.

Let's kill scott who was my shadow last game where i wrote that i would martyr for the sick town cred but he doesnt say a word about it here

On July 13 2015 16:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't like Kelsier not being here and he did seem rather whatever about the d1 lynch, but I still think he's town.

As for Vivax:




I'd be okay with a vivax lynch next. He gives out townreads like nobody's business yet has no opinion on milo who has been talked about as a lynch candidate since d1. He states scum probably didn't give a shit about the d1 lynch (convenient as he called everyone dumb for switching to BM, but did nothing to stop it), says kelsier might be scum, but somehow says his d1 is fine despite kelsier being indifferent as fuck during the last hour of d1.

I'm fine with scott too.

On July 14 2015 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote:


What things have I said that aren't true?

On July 14 2015 02:58 Clarity_nl wrote:


You literally said "I don't know about milo, I'll need to think more about him" 12 hours before lynchtime or whatever. OUR CURRENT LYNCH TARGET and you're in no rush to get a read on him apparently.

Doing nothing about the BM lynch would be fine, I was perfectly happy switching I thought he was a better lynch at the time. However you thought the lynch was HORRIBLE and just let it happen anyway. "lol u guys are all bad lynching the claimed wanderer" followed with no alternative or caring about moving the lynch target.

I'm not saying you should townread Kelsier at all (although you should). What I was saying, and this is my third time pointing it out to you, is that YOU saying his d1 was fine but he's done nothing after that, when the only scummy thing he's done AFAIK is being so indifferent during d1 lynch. Somehow you missed this but you still read him as scum. It makes no sense.

On July 14 2015 03:05 Clarity_nl wrote:


Vivax is actually capable of forming coherent sentences and responding though

On July 14 2015 03:10 Clarity_nl wrote:


LOL.

Anyway..

You can say "I play the game my way and I don't care about anything else" all you want, but are you actually saying you don't really care if milo gets lynched, regardless of his alignment? You totally lost me.

On July 14 2015 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
Nothing's wrong with me this game? I've been very chirpy up until the MZ flip, as you well know

On July 14 2015 03:40 boxerfred wrote:
##vote Milo109

did kelsier show up by now? also i'm here for the rest of the evening.

On July 14 2015 04:10 boxerfred wrote:

i have a shit ton of work to do. so I'm skimming and not engaging the game although I'd really love to. sorry. wasn't forseeable at all.

On July 14 2015 15:58 Trfel wrote:
Someone talk to me about ruXxar.

Either I missed something, or he's almost certainly scum.

On July 14 2015 16:10 Trfel wrote:
Scott31337 is a fair shot at scum, though probably the least certain of my scum reads.

I don't really know about XEliteBlueHunter69X or WaveofShadow, though I'm a little inclined to think that WaveofShadow is town? I think his early read on Clarity_nl and how he reacted to the pressure felt a little bit towny.

Please talk to me about ruXxar.

On July 14 2015 16:18 Trfel wrote:
How about the part where he made an associative scumread that two people are scum, but only scumread one of them? And explained it by saying he thought they could be masons, but continued to only scumread one of them after he said he had realized this?

How about the part where this is also different from his play as town in Newbie Mafia 11 (it was his first game ever, look at the later parts of the game for a better representation)? How about the fact that he replaced into Himalayas after the game was well under way, and only towards the end of the game joined the discussion and posted more casually (more like he is in this game)?

On July 14 2015 16:29 Trfel wrote:
Are you talking about the start of his play in Himalayas, or the end? Or did you read all of it?

On July 14 2015 16:53 Harkon wrote:
I survived both the mafia's and the host's attempt to kill me. I am therefore concluding that I am in fact invincible.

Bow down before me.

On July 14 2015 17:09 Harkon wrote:

No, I never said that. Not that it matters anyways. I am way more suspicious of the people suddenly defending milo when the lynch was set btw.

On July 13 2015 00:25 Harkon wrote:
We aren't lynching anyone but milo unless someone convinces me that he is not basically confirmed mafia snd I don't think that's even possible.

On July 14 2015 17:27 Harkon wrote:

Yes, and that post was in regard to what I said about milo earlier -> he is basically confirmed scum unless there are 2 rbs (which I said was possible but very unlikely) - there is nothing wrong with that statement. If you want to keep throwing shit at confirmed town be my guest though.
The bolded is pretty much complete bs.

On July 14 2015 17:48 Harkon wrote:
There were no alternatives. Milo would have never gotten a check off and people would always discuss him and try to lynch him later in the game. It was correct to lynch him.

On July 06 2015 07:40 Damdred wrote:
No you fools I hard claim cop!

So yeah we just made home made quesadilla for supper at work and they are excellent really makes my day.

I am a towny of a different shade and you should live me

On July 06 2015 07:41 KelsierSC wrote:
So I won my chess match quite quickly, I had a couple of celebratory glasses of wine and now the game can begin.
let us fall down the rabbit hole and see what we may see

On July 06 2015 12:08 KelsierSC wrote:
im too drunk to play this but last game

damdred and rsoul read eachother as town, and they both had ls as town early

this game damdred has rs as town but ls as mafia but he has rs as town

so something fucked up is happening there

i like geript and i like clarity,
i also like breshke but i dont really know how real this read is

and i dont like Wos as a result of liking clarity, sheeping the fuck

outside of that im fucked to fuck

On July 06 2015 14:53 Breshke wrote:


I agree on KSC.

Geript idk he called me 99% town early which could be understandable because he looked into my meta fairly extensively in the newbie game we played together and seemed to have a fairly good grasp of it. But ive played a few more games since then and i don't think my play has really changed that much but he doesn't even seem to consider that it could have like as in im fairly sure he hasn't looked at my recent games so im not sure why he would be comfortable calling me town.

Can't really disagree on the marv thing he like playing town more than scum and if he does nothing for extened periods of time he is probs scum yeah.

I dont care about harkon currently.

Is there anything else to your LS read other than a few towntells. I almost went back to look at his scum games because i swear he has said the what are you smoking stuff as scum before but then ceebs. I do agree with damdred that this isn't LS's town meta. Him just dropping in and not attempting to do much i think is scum LS. I think i made a similar read on him last game and he was town but aside from that damdreds point feels fairly damming.

On July 15 2015 16:42 boxerfred wrote:
people do you agree/disagree with my list?

On July 16 2015 02:27 ruXxar wrote:


There's very few things that make a person exclusively scum.
A lot of people look scummy even though they're town, just look at all the people we've lynched so far.
I'm not saying that only scum would do this, but the case + tunnel on geript seems artificial to me.

Right now I think part of the key to solving this game lies in trfel, and here's why:

Trfel was an easy target to push with the terrible content he had posted so far.
HF started pushing him and it was a low risk case to sheep for scum since HF is a strong player that would take the brunt of the force on himself.
I think you will find the scum amongst the people that jumped on the scum-read train of trfel without really pushing him, or in people hard defending him knowing he is town.

These people are:

EBH, Me, Vivax, Rsoultin.

I'm thinking there is 1 or maybe 2 mafia in here, and I'm most suspicious of rsoultin and vivax atm.

On July 16 2015 03:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think BF is mafia.

On July 06 2015 08:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


ya fuck that guy imo

On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.

My vote is serious now.

On July 17 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:


trfel has some stuff in a spoiler that's borderline DMA

On July 17 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:


don't particularly want to kill VA :D :D :D

On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.

##Vote Milo

On July 09 2015 14:15 Breshke wrote:
That's a really sick post clarity.

Especially like why the fuck did he try a fake check when ritoky claimed RB and he doesn't think there can be two mafia rb's.

I almost want to lynch milo first now but damdred would be the mafia RB'r so yeah

On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.

##Vote Milo

On July 17 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Can you make a scumteam of 3 with Breshke on it and Hf off of it?

On July 17 2015 05:05 Holyflare wrote:




didn't hate his explanation

On July 06 2015 13:08 Breshke wrote:
I also kind of townread KSC for whatever he is trying to say about damdred. I think damdred is super town and his bigish post about LS makes me really want to lynch LS but i feel KSC wouldnt be sending himself in a loop without really having a point if he was scum.

On July 17 2015 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
yeh you must 1000% lynch rsoultin, no if's or buts