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On July 07 2015 10:15 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:56 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 09:53 ruXxar wrote: @Trfel
Is something wrong with you? Did something traumatic happen in your life? You played like a fucking god in our newbie game. What changed? ... you played with him when he's scum and you're now saying that him playing differently makes him...scum? (for the retards who can't read, this means i think that ruxxar is MAKING SHIT UP) There's a difference between playing different and playing badly. The fact that so few people are scum reading him now is very surprising to me. But knowing what trfel is capable of, I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing the "shitty town" angle, and it seems to be working. You're also aligning yourself very strongly with Trfel. Not sure why, but it doesn't look good. Let the man fend for himself.
read literally ANY game truffle and i have played together and you'd get it
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On July 07 2015 10:15 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 10:14 milo109 wrote: Okay. Reading rsoultin's filter and... does he always play with an smiley-face/lol in almost every post? It's rubbing me the wrong way. she and yeah pretty much Apologies.
i don't care? lol
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On July 07 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 10:15 rsoultin wrote: profile
all my games lol >< except the most recent
i make it even easier than searching the database -gasp!-
zzzzz@ls Okay maybe not it felt like though he trying to question people about Trfel because of his response to my answers to him(Trfel) and yet have a different conclusion than Trfel.
q.e.d.
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means i proved my point
it may seem like he's trying to figure out truffle's alignment, but nothing when you actually look at his posting shows that. he's in full tunnel and just sniping
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On July 07 2015 10:21 LightningStrike wrote: If q.e.d means quit eating dicks I not eating dicks?
rofl >< it's short for a latin phrase at the end of mathematical/philosophical proofs ^^
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eh, chem
i need to check that against something, geript
i'll do it before bed tonight
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yeah well i'm not seeing it so i must be blind xP unless you're referring to questions to others which obviously has nothing to do with what i'm talking about
and it's kind of hard to believe you when you decided hours into the day phase that you were going to lynch truffle no matter what, regardless -shrugs- that sort of tunneling i don't expect from a town hf any more than you nitpicking my posts when i was just commenting and not trying to start anything to begin with
i'm easy to get riled up -_- you took advantage of it last game, so forgive me if i have a difficult time seeing this as any different
i don't like your read on ruxxar
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On July 07 2015 10:50 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 10:49 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 09:41 Trfel wrote:LightningStrike- Responses to scumreads
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote: ##vote trfel
Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. I not what are smoking bro? Weed? Crack? When he gets scumread by geript, he just says he's not scum, and then says that something must be impeding geript's ability to read him. He responds to geript's scumread, but without providing any content. He doesn't actually ask geript why he had this scumread, doesn't think about geript's alignment at all, and seemingly assumes that geript is town. Furthermore, I'm not used to LightningStrike being this aggressive in his wording. On July 06 2015 08:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:35 Breshke wrote: I also really like damdreds read on LS here. The fact that you didn't meta scott straight away makes it more likely you are your lazy scum self LS
It always feels good sheeping damdred. Choo Choo
##Vote Lightningstrike I not scum what are you and Damdred smoking? Cocaine? Weed? Alcohol? Jesus Christ you are bad Breshke. Again, he's really aggressive about the claim, and assumes that Breshke is town. There are more examples, they're all similar. Contrast this to other games, for example Himalayas: On June 17 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote: So ok claiming town which means ls is scum Really because I actually rolled scum so therefore you must be scum! + Show Spoiler + I've never seen LightningStrike respond to scumreads as aggressively as he has in this game.
- Changes his play in response to pressure, early townread on Damdred
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote: If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later.
Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him? Pretty weird esp because rsoultin said last game she can't read me well but she still had a town lean on me there. I had played with scott before but only when he was scum O_o On July 06 2015 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:47 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 07:46 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote: If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later.
Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him? Pretty weird esp because rsoultin said last game she can't read me well but she still had a town lean on me there. I had played with scott before but only when he was scum O_o Oh? I think I've played with town Scott once. But ls any other thoughts about him? Not much to go on him yet. This is his first discussion about reading people in this game. Damdred responds like this: On July 06 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote: Maybe I'm expecting to much but you obviously are leaning one way on Scott currently and you have said that you played multiple times with him.
Usually you would throw that meta and five me a preliminary call now you just lazily tell me you don't have enough. Even if it is super early you do it as town a lot but never as scum. And LightningStrike responded like this: Which doesn't actually do anything to help his case. "Hey LightningStrike, you're scum because you didn't do this." "Okay, I did it, am I cool now?" On July 06 2015 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:09 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote: @ rs maybe your new read should go in the trash the damdred train is going past the ls lynch this day. Na her read on me is correct maybe your LS reading machine is overheating from last game thus not working correctly? Also on the note about scott: As scum seems to be more obvious as the game progresses I only skimmed some of his filter from his last two town games and I still need more posts from him to determine his alignment by meta. do you have any town at this point? Damdred even if he's wrong on me I see Town Damdred this game. The townread on Damdred feels very out of place. This is the only read he's made to this point in the game. Also, note the wording, he says "if" instead of "though". LightningStrike ought to know that he is town... On July 06 2015 11:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 11:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 11:13 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 11:06 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 11:04 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 10:57 Damdred wrote: I'm back.
Kel I don't get it, you really like my points on ls which I feel is really strong and getting stronger by the second.
But instead you judge me based on the structure of a town read and don't even mention the ls read that you liked? That's kind of strange how i like to read you and rsoul is how you read eachother, your town read on her is less developed than usual i cant explain that shit. so i liked the ls case, but ls....like i just fucking hate whenever he types so if i ignore all that shit and try to play outside of that id ont like you make sens I'm not sure I follow 100%. example if you don't like a town read that's ok, but you like another read is developed with support you want to discard because you don't like him anyway? So you don't like me. that doesn't make sense and you are discarding part of my game play for no real reason it feels uneven and unnecessary coming from you im basically not sure i believe your LS read anymore and anything connected to LS is always slightly aids so im looking at your rs read and it doesnt feel as good im not 100% i just dont like you in my gut i guess it dpeends what ls does What does it even mean that my RS read didn't feel as good? Not as condensed as assassins where I had to be vs different here and the last game I played in? So you are scum reading me (sorta) on style rather than content? And you don't think my Ks read is good anymore when he is 100% still going against meta? well..it is like this. scott apparently has few games played and LS did explain the read of like "oh you get him later" LS is...well like you never know wtf is happening. so i think a few pages its hard to say well fuck yeh he is lazy...it just doesnt feel good...fuck i cant explain that properly so i feel like your LS scum is dishonest and your rsoul is town feels like a cheap rsoul is town comparitively Damdred is wrong about my alignment and Damdred does normally rsouls alignment correctly but he wrong on my alignment this game but that wont make him scum if he is scum. And it continues. He doesn't take any effort to explain this Damdred read at all. And he's so aggressive towards others who scumread him. It feels like he just townread Damdred to appease him. When LightningStrike finally gives a reason for townreading Damdred (in his list post), it's because Damdred is putting in effort. Which wasn't the case when LightningStrike first gave his townread of Damdred.
- Meek tone when asking people for reads
+ Show Spoiler +One of LightningStrike's most commonly asked questions to people is "what are your reads, please?" On July 06 2015 08:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote: hi, i am town. i will be back when relevant information is being posted. bye. Drive By Posting seems common this game O_o Normally, I would expect LightningStrike to ask a question to ritoky, such as "When you return, please share your reads" or something like that. In the Himalayas game, he asked this question very early on. But here, he just comments. No question, no conclusion, just a comment. On July 06 2015 11:49 LightningStrike wrote: Also Oats while you at it can you explain your reads on the people you quoted please? On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote: Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning. When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote: Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share? Compare this to Assassination Mafia: On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote: @Marv: What are your current reads? @Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread? On May 14 2015 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 05:57 Damdred wrote: Sorry been afk had a hell of a day. Should cat h up and be productive shortly When you are caught up can I have your reads please? On May 14 2015 22:47 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 22:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 13 2015 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:Final Day 1 Vote Count: Vivax (8) - BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike Rsoultin (1) - Onegu Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks BlazingHand (7) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Trfel, GlowingBear, Just for informational purposes. Hello VE thoughts so far on everyone? There's a very clear difference in tone between these games. On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote: Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. Here's a counter-example from Himalayas. However, I haven't seen LightningStrike play like this as town before, and it still feels like his tone is more meek in this game than his other town games (even the Himalays quote). Furthermore, he's being more aggressive towards people who scumread him this game than in other games. Why is he more aggressive in response to scumreads, but more defensive when asking people for reads? It doesn't make sense.
There is one more reason, possibly the strongest reason. But I need to see what people think about this before I could consider sharing it. And no, I'm not going to say what it is at this time, so don't ask. On July 06 2015 12:13 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote: ah ye olde crack/weed/alcohol meta read lol apparently i'm not the first to think of it. it any good? it only just clicked for me last game it's pretty basic but works for him being town from my exp, i have another stupid meta read that i'm waiting on for him too  1st point is a town read like we've said and you should have seen if you were reading the thread 2nd point is just silly because he does that regularly, you can just look at any game and see he plays reactionary to appease people 3rd point you literally compare 2 quotes that are exactly the same and say they are different When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? When you are caught up can I have your reads please?
also NONE OF THIS CONTAINS ANY RESPONSE ABOUT LS' READ ON RITOKY LOL so, trfel's case is based on everything earlier and what did he say earlier? Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote: I think it makes sense now....
I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. everything after does not change because of his response to ritoky, nothing is different
this is actually valid though :/ lol ><
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hey hf
humor me for a second yeah?
assassination, guardians, carol, and even aperture (though obv reasons why this isn't as relevant) to a lesser extent
what do they all have in common?
and you played in every single one of these, too
like i agree that case on ls was meeeeeeeh and doesn't make much sense given the former stuff, but all of these were large themed just like this one. all had a low-activity truffle and the one he contributed in most (arguably) was the one he rolled 3p in, at least in terms of actually posting worthwhile things early
you just kind of decided that the reason he's low-activity is because of rolling scum twice instead of considering that this is actually normal for him in large games?
i have a toneread on him. i know that's not something you give a shit about, but this toneread is practically ironclad, and a lot stronger than a double-mafia roll theory. like i don't want to lynch a townread >< maybe you really believe this theory of yours but are you willing to at least consider the fact that it's actually normal for him to barely post in large themed games?
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i honestly don't have a response except he doesn't read mafia to me -_-
like sure he posts logical things eventually but he's posted practically nothing and gotten nuked by scum while being essentially afk for 1-2 days i mean...seriously? i just don't think your theory is ironclad and i'm not sure why you won't consider that you could be wrong
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there was one game where i know i kept on saying yeah he sucks but he's town i just can't remember what it was ><
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On July 07 2015 12:05 Holyflare wrote: like it doesn't matter what I said in the early game about being "burnt out" and going hard on him since that was simply me trying to pressure him into contributing and revealing his alignment but then he started asking those questions about Marv that he already knows the answers to and questions about me that had no response no matter what you answered, hence why it annoys me to no end when you try and undermine any kind of questioning i have with "god can't you read" or "he already said that" it doesn't really matter if he has I want him to answer for himself and do things for himself so I can get a read on him, not on you
i've been trying to do that? it feels like you're not letting me
no, what i should say
is it feels like you're trying to marginalize me, and that irrationally pisses me off
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On July 07 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote: there was one game where i know i kept on saying yeah he sucks but he's town i just can't remember what it was ><
lol >< it was noir, but he was still posting better than this
i dunnae
tone says town and i'm not going to help y'all lynch him, but i have no good reason to defend him other than i really don't think he's scum -_- so yeah
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On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote: eh, chem
i need to check that against something, geript
i'll do it before bed tonight rsoul can you do this? I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff.
to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_-
i said i'd do it before bed. i will.
if you want to actually talk then do so
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On July 07 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin this is nothing to do with trfel being afk. Trfel is here. Everytime Trfel is "here" in previous games he posts something logical. Here he is around and posting nothing logical.
this isn't entirely true but i don't want to argue it anymore, if that's okay with you
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On July 07 2015 12:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 12:08 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 12:05 Holyflare wrote: like it doesn't matter what I said in the early game about being "burnt out" and going hard on him since that was simply me trying to pressure him into contributing and revealing his alignment but then he started asking those questions about Marv that he already knows the answers to and questions about me that had no response no matter what you answered, hence why it annoys me to no end when you try and undermine any kind of questioning i have with "god can't you read" or "he already said that" it doesn't really matter if he has I want him to answer for himself and do things for himself so I can get a read on him, not on you i've been trying to do that? it feels like you're not letting me no, what i should say is it feels like you're trying to marginalize me, and that irrationally pisses me off Well when I ask people questions I expect reactions from the person and not someone saying no and back off and that's not indicative while i'm doing it before the person has responded 
noted
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On July 07 2015 12:17 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote: Rsoultin this is nothing to do with trfel being afk. Trfel is here. Everytime Trfel is "here" in previous games he posts something logical. Here he is around and posting nothing logical. this isn't entirely true but i don't want to argue it anymore, if that's okay with you "yes he trolls sometimes" is that what you're going to say? I don't want an argument and it doesn't have to be. If my opinion is wrong, point out how.
yeah. especially early game and in large games :/ i'm not going to lie and say that this is an exceptional amount of nothing compared to what i'm used to, though
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On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote: eh, chem
i need to check that against something, geript
i'll do it before bed tonight rsoul can you do this? I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff. to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_- i said i'd do it before bed. i will. if you want to actually talk then do so hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town
...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh
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