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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 07 2015 03:28 GMT
#1721
On July 07 2015 12:25 Holyflare wrote:
The fact he missed the part where we town read LS for the crack/weed thing kind of indicates to me that he isn't reading the thread and is making a case based on LS' filter alone, which is scummy in the context of Trfel, especially combined with everything else.


meh maybe i should actually read his last scum game, since everyone was praising it

i don't know that he'd just throw out his own opinion for other people's anyway, frankly, but i only glanced at his filter and it was...stiff, which is what i associate with a scum truffle lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 03:29 GMT
#1722
Oh sorry, by the way about the vote. I get you and Half the Sky mixed up. Those Hs.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 03:30 GMT
#1723
LS's filter is SCUMMY. Read it. I can link a dozen posts that raised my eyebrow. Whether you are town or mafia, your job is to build narratives. The question is which are the most convincing. I didn't think Trfel's was particularly convincing, but at least he is offering up a thread that we can then weight.


This does not answer the point at all and is most concerning. I do not care if he builds a narrative on LS. I care that he earlier said LS is not scum after reading LS' filter. Nothing had happened since then. Trfel then returns and asks LS a question about Ritoky. Suddenly Trfel's read on LS changes to LS being mafia.

Then he posts a case on LS and none of the things in the case on LS being mafia contain the questions about Ritoky. So why is his case a different version than his opinion in the thread?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 03:31 GMT
#1724
On July 07 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
eh, chem

i need to check that against something, geript

i'll do it before bed tonight


rsoul can you do this?

I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff.


to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_-

i said i'd do it before bed. i will.

if you want to actually talk then do so


hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town


...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh


Idk I just suddenly get how frustrated you are. Feels a lot like last game with the Gb stuff. Like I said my main reason i wasn't really liking you for town was because normally i can call tou town because you are saying a bunch of stuff that im thinking. That obviously isn't happening this game though but i do not think that this makes you scum because you have mainly been talking about trefel who you seem to have a read on that i along with the rest of the thread seemingly can't follow.

So the question then is no matter trfels alignment do you as mafia defend trfel like this and let yourself get legitimately frustrated and up in arms after going through it last game. I think it is fairly unlikely and that you would take a path of less resistance.

I even gave you an out in that post just before that you probably know as scum you could easily get me to town read you by just talking through some oats stuff with me. So i think the way you reacted makes me think you are town.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 03:31 GMT
#1725
On July 07 2015 12:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
LS's filter is SCUMMY. Read it. I can link a dozen posts that raised my eyebrow. Whether you are town or mafia, your job is to build narratives. The question is which are the most convincing. I didn't think Trfel's was particularly convincing, but at least he is offering up a thread that we can then weight.


This does not answer the point at all and is most concerning. I do not care if he builds a narrative on LS. I care that he earlier said LS is not scum after reading LS' filter. Nothing had happened since then. Trfel then returns and asks LS a question about Ritoky. Suddenly Trfel's read on LS changes to LS being mafia.

Then he posts a case on LS and none of the things in the case on LS being mafia contain the questions about Ritoky. So why is his case a different version than his opinion in the thread?


No idea. Maybe he made an honest mistake, maybe he is scum.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 03:32 GMT
#1726
If it is required for the majority, I don't think he is a terrible lynch.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 03:33 GMT
#1727
Damn. My filter is small. Quick. Give me something else to argue about.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 03:34 GMT
#1728
Your read on LightningStrike. Have you played with him before? If you knew him those things you point at as being scummy are things that aren't particularly scummy for him at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 03:35 GMT
#1729
On July 07 2015 12:31 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
eh, chem

i need to check that against something, geript

i'll do it before bed tonight


rsoul can you do this?

I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff.


to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_-

i said i'd do it before bed. i will.

if you want to actually talk then do so


hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town


...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh


Idk I just suddenly get how frustrated you are. Feels a lot like last game with the Gb stuff. Like I said my main reason i wasn't really liking you for town was because normally i can call tou town because you are saying a bunch of stuff that im thinking. That obviously isn't happening this game though but i do not think that this makes you scum because you have mainly been talking about trefel who you seem to have a read on that i along with the rest of the thread seemingly can't follow.

So the question then is no matter trfels alignment do you as mafia defend trfel like this and let yourself get legitimately frustrated and up in arms after going through it last game. I think it is fairly unlikely and that you would take a path of less resistance.

I even gave you an out in that post just before that you probably know as scum you could easily get me to town read you by just talking through some oats stuff with me. So i think the way you reacted makes me think you are town.


I like you now. GJ!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 07 2015 03:36 GMT
#1730
On July 07 2015 12:31 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
eh, chem

i need to check that against something, geript

i'll do it before bed tonight


rsoul can you do this?

I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff.


to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_-

i said i'd do it before bed. i will.

if you want to actually talk then do so


hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town


...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh


Idk I just suddenly get how frustrated you are. Feels a lot like last game with the Gb stuff. Like I said my main reason i wasn't really liking you for town was because normally i can call tou town because you are saying a bunch of stuff that im thinking. That obviously isn't happening this game though but i do not think that this makes you scum because you have mainly been talking about trefel who you seem to have a read on that i along with the rest of the thread seemingly can't follow.

So the question then is no matter trfels alignment do you as mafia defend trfel like this and let yourself get legitimately frustrated and up in arms after going through it last game. I think it is fairly unlikely and that you would take a path of less resistance.

I even gave you an out in that post just before that you probably know as scum you could easily get me to town read you by just talking through some oats stuff with me. So i think the way you reacted makes me think you are town.


heh >< this makes sense

the thing about it bresh is i never know how to really qualify my tonereads beyond things like look, humor, or hey, emotion, or that dude isn't engaging, and i don't like backing off them because the majority of the time they're right. on certain players in particular. i know i'm not infallible but i just let myself be talked out of my toneread on gb last game and that turned out so well ><

i'll reconsider truffle but i can't promise anything >< we were at one point very active in skype and i feel like i've gotten a very solid read on his personality, which doesn't really shine through when he rolls scum. it's possible he could have gotten better so i'll look
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 03:36 GMT
#1731
I haven't. I've played one mini game before this. Don't bring that one up in front of Scott though.

How in the world is being surprised at a cop claim that is in the form of a hashtag at all excusable?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 07 2015 03:36 GMT
#1732
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

LOOOL
No gg, No skill.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 03:37 GMT
#1733
On July 07 2015 12:26 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
And I'm asking you to elaborate on why LS is scummy and how that's outweighed by Trfel being scummy.
You can't have both.


it isn't and I surely can, hyperbolic statements aren't going to sway me from my opinion.

as an aside, the last time you told some one to

"Elaborate?" you were scum so not sure what to make of that.


Except the point is that you're capitalizing on a fight between two players, which is scummy.

I don't even understand your point on me asking someone to elaborate one time when I was scum.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 03:38 GMT
#1734
On July 07 2015 12:33 milo109 wrote:
Damn. My filter is small. Quick. Give me something else to argue about.


Talk about EBH.
Retired.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 07 2015 03:38 GMT
#1735
On July 07 2015 12:34 Holyflare wrote:
Your read on LightningStrike. Have you played with him before? If you knew him those things you point at as being scummy are things that aren't particularly scummy for him at all.

I had never played Milo before hence why I told him to check out my past games.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 03:38 GMT
#1736
On July 07 2015 12:36 milo109 wrote:
I haven't. I've played one mini game before this. Don't bring that one up in front of Scott though.

How in the world is being surprised at a cop claim that is in the form of a hashtag at all excusable?


what do you mean?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 03:40 GMT
#1737
Why is this worth, '...............'? How can you not expect this? Is LS taking this seriously? Is he annoyed? I don't understand any of those reactions as town.

On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote:
So I feel obliged to inform you that I'm the cop. #rayn


no, i'm the copcake!

...........

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 03:40 GMT
#1738
On July 07 2015 12:40 milo109 wrote:
Why is this worth, '...............'? How can you not expect this? Is LS taking this seriously? Is he annoyed? I don't understand any of those reactions as town.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote:
So I feel obliged to inform you that I'm the cop. #rayn


no, i'm the copcake!

...........



LS takes things incredibly literally, yes. That's his thing.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 07 2015 03:41 GMT
#1739
On July 06 2015 07:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote:
So I feel obliged to inform you that I'm the cop. #rayn

That is a terrible role to claim Day 1 I don't even know what the hell is going on......


This too. I mean... he has played before. Quite a few times. How is it possible an experienced player doesn't know what is going on?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 07 2015 03:41 GMT
#1740
On July 07 2015 12:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:31 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
eh, chem

i need to check that against something, geript

i'll do it before bed tonight


rsoul can you do this?

I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff.


to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_-

i said i'd do it before bed. i will.

if you want to actually talk then do so


hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town


...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh


Idk I just suddenly get how frustrated you are. Feels a lot like last game with the Gb stuff. Like I said my main reason i wasn't really liking you for town was because normally i can call tou town because you are saying a bunch of stuff that im thinking. That obviously isn't happening this game though but i do not think that this makes you scum because you have mainly been talking about trefel who you seem to have a read on that i along with the rest of the thread seemingly can't follow.

So the question then is no matter trfels alignment do you as mafia defend trfel like this and let yourself get legitimately frustrated and up in arms after going through it last game. I think it is fairly unlikely and that you would take a path of less resistance.

I even gave you an out in that post just before that you probably know as scum you could easily get me to town read you by just talking through some oats stuff with me. So i think the way you reacted makes me think you are town.


I like you now. GJ!


Im not sure if this is sarcasm or not.

On July 07 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:31 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:18 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
eh, chem

i need to check that against something, geript

i'll do it before bed tonight


rsoul can you do this?

I'm starting to think you are mafia because i don't agree with anything you are saying and it doesn't help that you and HF are only talking about the trfel stuff.


to be quite frank with you i'm not in a place to take this post well and i'm trying not to bite your head off, so no -_-

i said i'd do it before bed. i will.

if you want to actually talk then do so


hmm okay I am fairly sure you are town


...i really don't get how this read changed based on that one post, bresh


Idk I just suddenly get how frustrated you are. Feels a lot like last game with the Gb stuff. Like I said my main reason i wasn't really liking you for town was because normally i can call tou town because you are saying a bunch of stuff that im thinking. That obviously isn't happening this game though but i do not think that this makes you scum because you have mainly been talking about trefel who you seem to have a read on that i along with the rest of the thread seemingly can't follow.

So the question then is no matter trfels alignment do you as mafia defend trfel like this and let yourself get legitimately frustrated and up in arms after going through it last game. I think it is fairly unlikely and that you would take a path of less resistance.

I even gave you an out in that post just before that you probably know as scum you could easily get me to town read you by just talking through some oats stuff with me. So i think the way you reacted makes me think you are town.


heh >< this makes sense

the thing about it bresh is i never know how to really qualify my tonereads beyond things like look, humor, or hey, emotion, or that dude isn't engaging, and i don't like backing off them because the majority of the time they're right. on certain players in particular. i know i'm not infallible but i just let myself be talked out of my toneread on gb last game and that turned out so well ><

i'll reconsider truffle but i can't promise anything >< we were at one point very active in skype and i feel like i've gotten a very solid read on his personality, which doesn't really shine through when he rolls scum. it's possible he could have gotten better so i'll look


I'm not asking you to reconsider your read. Like obviously you should be doing that anyway eventually but if you feel strongly about it push it just dont only talk about that (which i believe is what you are trying to do)
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