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XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 06 2015 22:08 GMT
#1401
Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far.

Confident town reads

Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here.

He also shares my scumread on trfel which I will explain further down.

Ruxxar - Way different posting style from his previous mafia game and isn't leaving giant gaping holes in his logic in ridiculously long-winded bs posts, just seems to be inquiring about information normally and genuinely seems interested in piecing together the puzzle. Hard to fake as a newer player.

Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.

Confident Scum Reads

Trfel - Honestly his posts just don't make any sense if he isn't in contact with somebody. He appears to be putting on a show for laughs and probably thinks he can get away with it in such a large game. If he isn't a mason or part of your knitting circle i'd advise to lynch this guy asap before he posts anything more in his mafia qt about how he is "trolling so hard ex dee"

Even when engaged in a very mild tone he still refuses to co-operate which should be a huge red flag.

*Possible blue role here that is using his claim to play the game for him, I don't know enough about him to make the distinction.

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 06 2015 22:09 GMT
#1402
Scott31337
Clarity_nl
Vivax
Bill Murray
ritoky
Meapak_Ziphh
Trfel
LightningStrike
ObiWanShinobi
milo109
Oatsmaster
Damdred
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

People not currently in my town circle
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 06 2015 22:11 GMT
#1403
IDK why but I think EBH is VE.Feels very much like VE logic.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 06 2015 22:13 GMT
#1404
this is the first game where in the first 24 hours, noone scumreads me Oo. #justSaying. good night people.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 22:20 GMT
#1405
On July 06 2015 15:28 ritoky wrote:
milo, ls, ruxxar....1 of these is mafia. more to come later.


I don't want to lynch ritoky today.
If he's a town or pr, then I don't mind as the pr is so weak that mafia wasting powers on him is a good thing.
Also if the mafia NK's a question mark for us that's a good thing anyway, he probably isn't going to get off any checks.

If he lives until tomorrow then we can re-evaluate.
We prolly have other pr's so I think the ritoky case will solve itself.

Ritoky aside there's other scummy targets to lynch.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 22:20 GMT
#1406
I'm back.

BF, I'm assuming you meant Not Themed and not Himalayas, I did not claim miller in that game, but if you are saying I didn't have hard scum reads like I didn't in that game, I did just try to push ritoky now or at least get him to ask questions and I had to AFK just before (or around the time he claimed).

I think Scott and LS already said their pieces on miller claim, but yes as I've learnt I do it so that if there is a DT, they don't waste the check on me. They know the check will come back red, so it's down on people to just look at my gameplay if they don't believe what I say.

In general, you should also know I play large games as town differently, as there are more things to take in, I am trying to do a more efficient job of prioritising issues/people, etc, but I have found that difficult too. So it might also look to you I'm casting a wider net or however you put it but it is all too easy to ignore someone you should not be doing in a large game. Take that as you will.

In any case, I don't like the ritoky's claim at all (timing particularly) and I still have a scumread on him independent of it. I also don't like his response saying that I was the more likely scum btween myself and KSC. Yes KSC has more "town checks", but did he evaluate my game separately? Whose to say if both of us are town and both of us are scumreading him with good reason that both of us aren't fucking up?

His explanation for the 1 in 3 makes a little more sense, and now I'd seen where he's going through some follow up would be nice for that. If he still feels I'm mafia though, I'd like for him to explain why when he also has more time.

Unvoting him.

Speaking of ruxxar, his response to my series of questions, particularly the last, makes me think for now he's probably town. Trfel criticised the read which is why I further questioned him. I did read through nsm11 filter, but I think his answers resolve for now.

Milo is another that I flagged before because of his reads, just zero explanation and he did the exact same thing in Holy Guardians and no one questioned him on it. I lined up a few questions for him and he has yet to return to the thread.

It is pretty difficult to push people who aren't in thread, aside from pressure voting them, but not sure if others (aside from Scott) are willing to lynch Milo. He'd be a good one to pressure atm.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 22:22 GMT
#1407
On July 07 2015 07:13 boxerfred wrote:
this is the first game where in the first 24 hours, noone scumreads me Oo. #justSaying. good night people.


I think you're town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 06 2015 22:22 GMT
#1408
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff



Look I realize your name is bluehunter but why exactly are you hunting blues?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 06 2015 22:24 GMT
#1409
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far.

Confident town reads

Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here.

He also shares my scumread on trfel which I will explain further down.

Ruxxar - Way different posting style from his previous mafia game and isn't leaving giant gaping holes in his logic in ridiculously long-winded bs posts, just seems to be inquiring about information normally and genuinely seems interested in piecing together the puzzle. Hard to fake as a newer player.

Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.

Confident Scum Reads

Trfel - Honestly his posts just don't make any sense if he isn't in contact with somebody. He appears to be putting on a show for laughs and probably thinks he can get away with it in such a large game. If he isn't a mason or part of your knitting circle i'd advise to lynch this guy asap before he posts anything more in his mafia qt about how he is "trolling so hard ex dee"

Even when engaged in a very mild tone he still refuses to co-operate which should be a huge red flag.

*Possible blue role here that is using his claim to play the game for him, I don't know enough about him to make the distinction.

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff


mafia
Zerg for Life
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 06 2015 22:26 GMT
#1410
On July 07 2015 07:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff



Look I realize your name is bluehunter but why exactly are you hunting blues?

^
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#1411
On July 07 2015 07:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff



Look I realize your name is bluehunter but why exactly are you hunting blues?


100%

I don't know if you are a smurf or a newbie but if you are a newbie player, dont EVER do this.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 22:28 GMT
#1412
On July 07 2015 07:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far.

Confident town reads

Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here.

He also shares my scumread on trfel which I will explain further down.

Ruxxar - Way different posting style from his previous mafia game and isn't leaving giant gaping holes in his logic in ridiculously long-winded bs posts, just seems to be inquiring about information normally and genuinely seems interested in piecing together the puzzle. Hard to fake as a newer player.

Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.

Confident Scum Reads

Trfel - Honestly his posts just don't make any sense if he isn't in contact with somebody. He appears to be putting on a show for laughs and probably thinks he can get away with it in such a large game. If he isn't a mason or part of your knitting circle i'd advise to lynch this guy asap before he posts anything more in his mafia qt about how he is "trolling so hard ex dee"

Even when engaged in a very mild tone he still refuses to co-operate which should be a huge red flag.

*Possible blue role here that is using his claim to play the game for him, I don't know enough about him to make the distinction.

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff


mafia


Why?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 22:28 GMT
#1413
On July 07 2015 07:11 geript wrote:
IDK why but I think EBH is VE.Feels very much like VE logic.


Including the bluehunting? I can't see VE or any veteran being dumb enough to post the blue reads.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 06 2015 22:29 GMT
#1414
On July 07 2015 07:28 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 07:24 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far.

Confident town reads

Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here.

He also shares my scumread on trfel which I will explain further down.

Ruxxar - Way different posting style from his previous mafia game and isn't leaving giant gaping holes in his logic in ridiculously long-winded bs posts, just seems to be inquiring about information normally and genuinely seems interested in piecing together the puzzle. Hard to fake as a newer player.

Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.

Confident Scum Reads

Trfel - Honestly his posts just don't make any sense if he isn't in contact with somebody. He appears to be putting on a show for laughs and probably thinks he can get away with it in such a large game. If he isn't a mason or part of your knitting circle i'd advise to lynch this guy asap before he posts anything more in his mafia qt about how he is "trolling so hard ex dee"

Even when engaged in a very mild tone he still refuses to co-operate which should be a huge red flag.

*Possible blue role here that is using his claim to play the game for him, I don't know enough about him to make the distinction.

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff


mafia


Why?


Because he was mean to me
Zerg for Life
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 22:30 GMT
#1415
Also i don't think bluehunting is mafia indicative.
I think it's more indicative of a town newbie(I know I did this is in my newbie game).
Mafia have no need to relay blue reads to the thread, unless they're fishing for reactions(possible).
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 06 2015 22:31 GMT
#1416
parrotstrike xP

oh noooooeees i posted another xP

oh wait there's another xP

o.0 the xPs are just multiplying!

xP xP xP xP xP

ahem

actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good

disregard

still, milo boring; could lynch lol ><

i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP)

YET ANOTHER xP!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 06 2015 22:31 GMT
#1417
on a more serious note,

late to the day

list posts that offers nothing original to the game.

This is stupid

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.


and then i don't even know what the blue thing is but he was horrible to me so he is mafia
Zerg for Life
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 22:31 GMT
#1418
The fact that he actually named himself Bluehunter is fucked up though.
Like he actually planned to do it all along.
Just stop, please.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#1419
A gloss through Palmar's filter is reminding me of his scum game in Titanic 7. I know he's not a meta-able player and whatever, but the gaps between his filter and his vote (I am assuming he didnt realise there was a separate voting thread) is why his opinions on Clarity changed after voting him, and him sheeping the vote on ritoky and even more so after the claim.

He also very distinctly sheeped faulty votes in that game as scum (if ritoky should be town), that's another red flag of his scumgame for me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 06 2015 22:34 GMT
#1420
i personally can't read palmar so i'm not going to try d1...there should be more to work with later

i think i know who the smurflet is though i'm not sure...can't say i agree with the vivax/geript thing though i don't know how stupid it is? geript really has been pretty much ignoring vivax doing the viva tunnel, so i can see how he arrives there
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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