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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:07 GMT
#7415
On July 17 2015 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Clarity pls. He just proposed that we do a super anti town thing of no lynching. That's on the same level as damdred being jk and visiting ritoky. Aka never happening.

Lynch hf.


i thought we would still have 2 lynches, like what, you expect me as mafia to assume people won't do the quick maths and figure it out?

I would expect you as town to do the math and figure it out. You made a mistake, you pay.


well i actually wanted 2 no lynches, i said it before for the nk info instead of 2 potential mislynches because i think the nk's will be far better info
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:08 GMT
#7418
ok oats you turned shit, np sheep me as your punishment
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:10 GMT
#7420
On July 17 2015 02:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 17 2015 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Clarity pls. He just proposed that we do a super anti town thing of no lynching. That's on the same level as damdred being jk and visiting ritoky. Aka never happening.

Lynch hf.


i thought we would still have 2 lynches, like what, you expect me as mafia to assume people won't do the quick maths and figure it out?

I would expect you as town to do the math and figure it out. You made a mistake, you pay.


well i actually wanted 2 no lynches, i said it before for the nk info instead of 2 potential mislynches because i think the nk's will be far better info

I die, ls dies, breshke dies, trfel dies..

Wow much info.


so why doesn't hts/rsoultin/clarity die, you think you are townier than them?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:13 GMT
#7424
I cannot help being an emotional person with outside issues that added up on in game issues. You CAN help to ignore the policy since it is exactly that, your own policy. The only person at fault in a policy is the person stubborn enough to continue it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:14 GMT
#7426
On July 17 2015 02:12 Half the Sky wrote:
I swapped my vote to HF. As for the gross misinterpretation I'm referring to his pushes on Ras, trfel and myself early in the game. I debunked the meta read at least twice and even Harkon mentioned a major discrepancy with you (specifically clashing with town leaders) for me being town earlier on reading the same game.

I totally want ruXxar to die as well but of course that's not going to happen. Well not today anyways.

I should have shot you n2 and just gone with my gut :/


QUOTE IT LOL. Where is the misrepresentation. WHERE WHERE. How can you say it's a misrep when rsoultin herself the person being the antagonistic ass hole AGREED with the trfel case? HOW?

Where did I misrep you in the slightest? Where does that exist? How do you know that is the case if you ignored all of my posts and only ever answered one right at deadline? Is that my fault you played like shit and ignored a town player and perpetuated my read when you know that i get tunneled on people? You keep mentioning aperture and forgetting all about it.

Pathetic.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:16 GMT
#7428
nah too late you're committed to me, have fun!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 18:57 GMT
#7438
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?page=308#6143

People should read this post from aperture where i tried to solve the game and town side hardcore and hts posted all the same things she posted here (read her filter in aperture) so knows absolutely nothing she says makes me mafia at all. It's literally the same phrasing too "opportunistic" bla bla. Don't count her out from being mafia at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:10 GMT
#7442
On July 17 2015 04:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly even if I didn't scumread Hf I'd still vote him out of spite.
I'm fucking tired of him and I want him to die. I've given him a number of outs and I've tried to talk about other people and all he does is scream scum in my face.


Um, not really true, I actually said you might not be the best lynch today and I just wanted answers. Like twice today. What meta was wrong that I was pushing despite people telling me otherwise?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:14 GMT
#7443
dropping a tonne of reads is the most artificial answer you can possibly make when you hated geript for the exact same thing and he was town and I do it in absolutely every single one of my large town games too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:17 GMT
#7445
anyway whatever, if any of you push ruxxar as mafia next cycle you are probably mafia yourselves for ignoring the fact he is hard defending me at every turn point and you not reading that it makes me town for every single mafia to town read me! either way follow my list

rsoul, clarity, hts, probably obi <-- look at nk's i guess and also read that last link i gave for hts where she makes all the same arguments here and conveniently ignores everything that happened that game where i was pretty much trying to solve the game for everyone else
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:29 GMT
#7451
4) Clarity_nl (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter)
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
22) Half The Sky (filter)


don't lynch wave probably believe in geript too, don't lynch vivax probably (got towny vibes throughout the game, marv echoes sentiments quiz him on inconsistent shit on day 1), bf is also a bad lynch for actually aligning with my thoughts today and on day 1, ls is playing standardly bad so ignore every word he writes, trfel is probably town for DMA and day 1 whine + inquisitive posts (wouldn't surprise me if he's mafia don't really care anymore so just call him town), never lynch breshke ever, oats towny for what i said earlier and his posts are good throughout the game he's just being awful today, EBH/VA is playing exactly like typical va so ignore obi's thoughts on his play being mafia orientated when it's just VA, he's been pretty involved and thinking about things personally wouldn't lynch for seeing similar things to what i see but whatever not gonna care if you lynch him because half of you are incapable of playing anyway

leaves the team being a variant of the above left names:, for HtS read all of my day 1 and actually listen to BF because he knows what i'm talking about how she just doesn't care what's going on and posts nonsense a lot and just comments on things:

On July 17 2015 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?page=308#6143

People should read this post from aperture where i tried to solve the game and town side hardcore and hts posted all the same things she posted here (read her filter in aperture) so knows absolutely nothing she says makes me mafia at all. It's literally the same phrasing too "opportunistic" bla bla. Don't count her out from being mafia at all.


^ read that too and realise how similar her arguments are but the difference is here she for some reason says everything i did in that same game makes me mafia

On July 17 2015 02:06 Holyflare wrote:
as an addendum I really am going to martyr now because you can all sheep me as your punishment for being shit and mislynching me:

lynch rsoultin for being "angry" at me saying she's done nothing and in her angry post says that she's done nothing, she's had 1 scum read since day 1 on ruxxar and magically her scum read on me returns for the shittest reasons even though they always existed but she town read me past that anyway

lynch clarity for being a massive hypocrite and saying that i'm mafia for doing the least mafia like play ever and then scum reading me despite hard defending and town reading me all game even though he likes all the points i brought up on himself and obi

lynch obi for not being able to answer a straightforward question such as what his scum reads were before va and me, his scum read on va was a spite vote which somehow became a 100% mafia with hf vote and he refuses to explain why even though that's what he scum reads va for (even though he scum reads va for playing like va) and also his clarity read completely disappearing entirely even thoug everything he posted towards clarity looked like it should be saying clarity is mafia, his list of town reads were all "activity" even though he was told activity is not a good metric for any of them - rsoul decided to comment on this point only at the start saying yes activity is not good but never made a read on obi, remember that

i still dunno about ruxxar - probably biased because he's town reading me for very logical points, probably ends up mafia but i don't care because his points are the only objective ones lol


realise that when i flip town every single thing i have said this game has been honest and straightforward and then realise how shit rsoultin looks, then look at clarity for his play today and rescinding his hardest town read ever for no reason whatsoever, ruxxar is probably mafia for his hard defence of me but that's your choice, all his points have been super accurate and you should all feel bad for not even listening to mafia repeatedly. If you EVER let clarity say any variant of "oh it was just a policy it's hf's fault" lynch the flying fuck out of him because let it be known for the record that today he SCUM read me. SCUM READ OK.

Make obi answer my cocking questions which should be the most straightforward shit in existence.

Anyway, gg, you're all bad for thinking that I can pump out 45 pages straight after himalayas with no downtime if i was mafia again.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:34 GMT
#7454
On July 17 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf I'm perfectly willing to work with you but constantly accusing me over things that don't make sense isn't going to help you. I literally cannot be fucked dealing with your aggression. Even if you think you're just "being straightforward" you have no idea how unbelievably annoying it is dealing with.


i haven't said anything about you for like 10 pages why are you so whiney? that's just a copy/paste of what i wrote earlier because you were being a douche and not responding to a word i wrote?

answer my questions please, why is VA mafia for playing like VA does in every game and who were your scum reads before me and VA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:41 GMT
#7458
On July 17 2015 04:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf I'm perfectly willing to work with you but constantly accusing me over things that don't make sense isn't going to help you. I literally cannot be fucked dealing with your aggression. Even if you think you're just "being straightforward" you have no idea how unbelievably annoying it is dealing with.


i haven't said anything about you for like 10 pages why are you so whiney? that's just a copy/paste of what i wrote earlier because you were being a douche and not responding to a word i wrote?

answer my questions please, why is VA mafia for playing like VA does in every game and who were your scum reads before me and VA


VA playing like VA doesn't make him not mafia; it just means he's VA. Why should I spare him a lynch if there are a number of active people trying to figure things out and some antagonistic waste of space is sitting in the corner just being useless? I'd be perfectly willing to consolidate on him over you just for sheer funsies/take-out-the-trash factor; regardless of his flip, he's basically a nonentity and should die just for playing the way he's playing. You might think he's being reasonable because he's not one of the people pushing you, but I can't really care less about him and I'd prefer him gone.

As for other scumreads, I've been rotating between inactives/skirt-by-the-wayside players like Vivax/WoS so there's not really a whole lot going on there. I could kill any of those.


So he's not an actual scum read lol? Why are all of your town reads based on activity when that is a bad metric to read all of those players? Why not use that metric for me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:42 GMT
#7460
On July 17 2015 04:40 Vivax wrote:
Don't really like Obi as the alternative wagon. Would much rather kill Wave or Trfel methinks.


none of those players, why are you so hell bent on trfel now he's actually participating?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:43 GMT
#7463
On July 17 2015 04:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf I'm perfectly willing to work with you but constantly accusing me over things that don't make sense isn't going to help you. I literally cannot be fucked dealing with your aggression. Even if you think you're just "being straightforward" you have no idea how unbelievably annoying it is dealing with.


i haven't said anything about you for like 10 pages why are you so whiney? that's just a copy/paste of what i wrote earlier because you were being a douche and not responding to a word i wrote?

answer my questions please, why is VA mafia for playing like VA does in every game and who were your scum reads before me and VA


VA playing like VA doesn't make him not mafia; it just means he's VA. Why should I spare him a lynch if there are a number of active people trying to figure things out and some antagonistic waste of space is sitting in the corner just being useless? I'd be perfectly willing to consolidate on him over you just for sheer funsies/take-out-the-trash factor; regardless of his flip, he's basically a nonentity and should die just for playing the way he's playing. You might think he's being reasonable because he's not one of the people pushing you, but I can't really care less about him and I'd prefer him gone.

As for other scumreads, I've been rotating between inactives/skirt-by-the-wayside players like Vivax/WoS so there's not really a whole lot going on there. I could kill any of those.


So he's not an actual scum read lol? Why are all of your town reads based on activity when that is a bad metric to read all of those players? Why not use that metric for me?


Because it doesn't apply to you.
Ever.


just like it doesn't ever apply to rsoultin and to an extent ruxxar too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:46 GMT
#7466
zzzz stop making me post just lynch me and sheep me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:47 GMT
#7467
like if i'm alive for more cycles people are just going to bitch about me some more anyway
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:47 GMT
#7469
obi what happened to your clarity mafia read and why was it not strengthened by him hard defending me against all the evidence?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:48 GMT
#7470
On July 17 2015 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm happy with a switch to ruxxar even though it's gonna suck to figure out HF properly afterwards.


no you mafia read me you lynch me, there is no getting out of it now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:51 GMT
#7476
On July 17 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote:
HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it?


Well you hated me day 1 for dropping him and I dropped it because of that bitchy post he made where he said he plays like this before or whatever and made a case defending his play or some shit, basically DMA and then he did the same thing last cycle too about his rl problems or whatever so a bit of DMA there and his thought processes this cycle haven't been particularly bad and he seems a bit lost which i like
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