EPTyeah someone else ask him questions. i'm not putting up with the stupid any longer
- explain his mason reads and the timeline
- why wasn't he here?
- what are his reads on people other than me?
i'm out -_-
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
yeah someone else ask him questions. i'm not putting up with the stupid any longer - explain his mason reads and the timeline - why wasn't he here? - what are his reads on people other than me? i'm out -_- | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
So let's change things up: Bf/Ruxxar/Wave possibly. That's my scumteam as of right now. Possibly replace ruxxar with clarity but I'm not 100%, and I would easily lynch Bf/Wave before either of those two. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
rsoul/wave/ows final answer. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
Explain why my logic is wrong. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
x is either WoS/ruxxar. Very outside shot (read: tinfoil/fear/paranoia) of Trfel. Things of note to me: Clarity - see previous/Vivax's case. Will lynch. Boxerfred - did not like his re-entry. On meta I felt he was okay. But wanting to vote Clarity and Ras and then showing up at the end? As for me I told you twice that your meta read was wrong. Harkon/Jat meta reads me accurately on the same game (the point being clashing with town leaders) yet when we correct you for context you insist where you stand is correct. What about my current game is scummy? What was scummy before last night? Besides YOUR INTERPRETATION OF META? Could lynch. Maybes ??? WoS - Yes I had a previous weak read based on meta. Everyone talked him bring lucky/useless but I ignored it early on. There was one thing that jumped at me. When the votes on HF were going down he was like "Day 4 he's still alive" not considering all the blue claims going down and how controversial interactions between him/Ras were and it just seemed all too easy way to just throw a vote on him. Even if you to make the argument that oh he's out of touch his reads are shit anyways it really doesn't take much to check who died and take into context. Could lynch after some/or final discussion. Trfel - DMA aside, on the upswing he's re-evaluating people so to me that is town. But in nsm11 he did really turn around things in filters so this part is more paranoia than anything. Considering he was pushing HF and was wrong....eh its worth a double check. Prob town Ras - read her filter. read both cases. read both filters. read cases again. Cases weren't convincing to me. My biggest feel is that unlke Carnaval/nsm7 when she's scum she is way more invested in her reads. I think she's town. EBH - his reaction at EoD where he was happy to go I felt couldn't come from scum. That's why I switched off and tried to go to Clarity. Yes I take responsibility for fucking up and not thinking at 2m before EoD but I maintain that finally after all this time having problems all game getting a read on him he just might actually be town. Oats - no change in this prior read. still town. RuXxar - Interactions with him and Ras felt like town on town when I skimmed last cycle but want to further review from day 1. Vivax had good points on him. I think OWS, Breshke are town. No change there. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 20 2015 22:10 rsoultin wrote: @ruxx...i really need you to explain your masons thought process to me and when you thought they were no longer masons Mason read on clarity: First time I mentioned it in thread was day 1: On July 07 2015 07:47 ruXxar wrote: A thought just struck me about HF and clarity. Willing to give clarity some more time. Top 2 scum atm: Trfel Rsoultin ##Vote Trfel Poked him about it N1 to see where he stood on HF(#scumslip): On July 09 2015 03:57 ruXxar wrote: @clarity: if I said I wanted to shoot HF tonight, would you be upset? On July 09 2015 04:10 Clarity_nl wrote: This question is insanely dumb on so many levels, why are you asking it? Please explain what you're hoping to get out of this? The fact that his instant reaction wasn't "don't shoot HF" made me think it was less likely that they were mason partners. On day 2 when he started trying to solve the game with the cops / checks etc is when I started getting a town-read on him. After that the mason thought sort of left my mind and got replaced with just a regular town-read. I didn't see any further interaction between them would lead me to think they were masons. I wasn't here because of IRL commitments + preparing for first workday after vacation. I was reading now and then on my phone. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
ruxx, an exercise! \o/ pretend i'm town for a short while who is scum? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
She could've hammered EBH if she wanted to and no one would've scum-read her for it. I think EBH is town -> HTS is town. rsoultin (5): boxerfred, ruXxar, XEliteBlueHunter69X, oatsmaster, WaveofShadow XEliteBlueHunter69X (5): Clarity_nl, OWS, trfel, breshke, rsoultin Clarity_nl (1): HTS | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 21 2015 05:35 rsoultin wrote: eh i'm going to have to crosscheck that ruxx, an exercise! \o/ pretend i'm town for a short while who is scum? Boxerfred, wave, EBH. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
1-shot jailer with no way to ever verify it being true? That's basically a free town-read for the rest of the game. People are naturally hesistant to lynching PR claims, and the fact that there are 2 RBers in the game makes the claim even more believable. The fact that he switched off rsoultin also points in the direction of him being scum. Does this make OWS scum? Not necessarily. OWS could be town and mafia could just NK him last to win the game. It's a believable JK target so it fits into the fake-claim. rsoultin (5): boxerfred, ruXxar, XEliteBlueHunter69X, oatsmaster, WaveofShadow XEliteBlueHunter69X (5): Clarity_nl, OWS, trfel, breshke, rsoultin Clarity_nl (1): HTS[/QUOTE] | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On July 21 2015 04:16 ruXxar wrote: Right now the people voting on rsoul look damn towny to me. There's no way mafia would risk a mis-lynch of their team-mate by letting her sit at 5 votes when 1 vote switch would lead to a mis-lynch of their team mate. This currently puts my world like this: rsoultin (5): boxerfred, ruXxar, XEliteBlueHunter69X, oatsmaster, WaveofShadow XEliteBlueHunter69X (5): Clarity_nl, OWS, trfel, breshke, rsoultin Clarity_nl (1): HTS I don't understand why you say "no way mafia would risk a mis-lynch for 1 vote difference" and then paint rsoultin red and not the one who switched, hts? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
however in every of those scenarios, rsoul is scum. lynch rsoul. easy. kk? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 21 2015 06:51 boxerfred wrote: ah okay, didn't read those explanations. makes sense. but could also be a "don't get me hanged" thing. another possibility would be that both EBH and rsoul are scum. however in every of those scenarios, rsoul is scum. lynch rsoul. easy. kk? Yep. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Day 6 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ga1pMsol.jpg) Jenkins is dead. You spend your next two shifts filing paperwork about him. Among other things, he was a an ex-Auror. You’d think that would ratchet up support for the case. After all, Aurors look out for their own. Rapists, kidnappers, murderers, they’re all scum, and everyone puts in their wand to bring them down. But an Auror-killer? Those don’t last long on the streets. Normally, the press would be all over this. Normall, the department would be all over this. Normally, though, the dead ex-Auror isn’t an unregistered werewolf. Jenkins never bit anyone— if he did that, you’d never be able to cover for him— but he was unregistered nonetheless and the scandal of that covers anything else. The Department can’t be seen to be playing favorites, even if everyone knows that you do. So you file paperwork. You answer questions. Did you know he was a werewolf? No, you lie. No, you tell the truth. There’s no veritaserum but you always kept plausible deniability. You suspected him, yes, of course— who wouldn’t? But you say if you had undeniable evidence you’d have turned him in an instant. And of course, you would have, too. The only thing undeniable would be him biting someone, and you wouldn’t cover that up, now would you? So you might as well have been speaking under a geas of truth. When Sergeant Peterson is pulled from the case and assigned elsewhere, you realize that there are fewer and fewer resources devoted to it. Why did that woman die? What was done to her, and by whom? More and more, you think these questions might not be answered unless something is done. Someone upstairs is looking out for you, though. They could have left you with a skeleton crew, but they kept some good men on the case. Even better, they pushed through your promotion. You finger your new Sergeant’s badge, running your fingers over the delicate fringes of it. In a way, it’s about time. But this shouldn’t be your first case. Still, the authority given to you is exactly what you need as you order your new underlings around. ObiWanShinobi the DMLE Investigator has been shot! Breshke the 1-Shot Lead Auror, Special Victims Unit has been shot! Welcome to Day 6! This day ends in 48 hours at Wednesday, Jul 22 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Please vote in the voting thread (link) between now and then. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
In my mind mafia most likely: Rsoultin, Trfel, Clarity. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Half the Sky is almost certainly town here. I lied earlier. Rsoultin is likely town as well. Town Half the Sky Town Lean rsoultin Oatsmaster ??? ruXxar XEliteBlueHunter69X WaveofShadow Mafia lean boxerfred Mafia Clarity_nl A brief explanation of why Half the Sky is town: + Show Spoiler + I tried to look for evidence of her phone posting, and I noticed that her posting seemed to be like all of her other posts. Then I noticed that she actually claimed to be phone posting for much of the game. If this was a sinister plot to fake phone posting while being on a computer, it was done long in advance. Furthermore, said "wisdom" instead of "wifom" and had to EBWOP it out. Half the Sky was seeming very towny, and no one was really scumreading her at all. If she's scum, she's in an incredible spot. There is absolutely no need to force town to no lynch and draw attention to herself, when she could just force the lynch onto town, and come out of it looking far better. This means that regardless of Half the Sky's alignment, the no-lynch was unintentional*. *There might be a slight possibility that mafia!Half the Sky would intentionally play for a no lynch like this if rsoultin is town and XEliteBlueHunter69X is mafia, because her voting for rsoultin wouldn't have made sense given her earlier play and a no lynch kept XEliteBlueHunter69X alive, but this doesn't make much sense because Half the Sky seemed very willing to lynch XEliteBlueHunter69X from an earlier point in the day anyway. Assuming that Half the Sky unintentionally caused the no lynch (which I think is a very safe assumption), she seemed very frantic around the deadline. Half the Sky is good at scum, but I just have so much trouble seeing mafia!Half the Sky taking any risks here, or trying to portray more complex things (in this case, being frantic and pressured for time). There's really no need, because as scum, Half the Sky should just take control of the game and force the remaining mislynch(es) in. It wouldn't be very hard at all for her to do. It's simply not worth it for her to appear anything less than confident and measured. Half the Sky is town. | ||
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