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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 16:32 GMT
#6012
On July 14 2015 01:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 14 2015 01:29 Holyflare wrote:
Well picking apart an argument is how you play mafia.....? Wut?


He's being lynched bro. Either you think he's scum and you're happy or you think he's town or you're not. If you have doubts go read his filter, at this point he's clearly given up, whatever his alignment is.


Right and if he's town he'll have a logical explanation for all of his thought processes and me picking it apart for more information helps me get a read on him. I don't think it's as dead set as everyone makes it out to be and i sure don't want to just afk while he gets lynched.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 16:35 GMT
#6014
The person my vote is on because trfel made a good point/case
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#6016
On July 14 2015 01:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
So scott is scum because:

- He called you town but didn't talk about my first post calling you town
- He isn't townreading oats but likes his case
- He wants to lynch rsoultin without giving reasons

Meh.



No he said I was town because of my first post and it was a mindmeld but then said it also could be constructed beforehand but still town read me anyway.

The oats thing is pretty valid if he's sheeping that persons case. A town lean would be good at least?

Dunno about the last. Rest is underwhelming play that isn't really explained properly and a smidge of poe.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 16:52 GMT
#6019
Bla bla bla words that i don't care about. Maybe he's town and capable of shitting town rainbows and if that is the case prodding him is great. Just because you are all underwhelming and are afking on his lynch without asking him any questions at all does not mean I am going to join the underwhelming club with you.

Last game he tried to lynch people by ridiculing them and their arguments and being over the top and shouting at them. Blowing things out of proportions and trying to make them look stupid


This just proves you havent read my filter at all because that's just not the case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 16:53 GMT
#6020
Well that last quote was meant to be jat's post not a direct quote.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 16:57 GMT
#6023
Read my filter. Quote it or go away. I dont honestly understand why you feel the need to interject with some of the things you write. You either think I'm mafia and prove it or town and let me do my thing. Randomly interjecting that me questioning milo while everyone afk's and does nothing is not productive in the slightest.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 16:58 GMT
#6024
Well there's things in the back of my mind and from interactions that hint that milo could be town so I'm going to get to the bottom of it before it's too late.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 17:02 GMT
#6026
On July 14 2015 01:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm perfectly content sitting on my hands until milo flips. If you are not that's fine, but I don't think you are solving the game at the moment.


Well that is fine so be content with me wasting my own time then instead of pointing out things thay you know annoyed me the first time everyone did it so provide nothing more than aggravation on my end.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 17:06 GMT
#6027
You all seem to think milo is mafia regardless so you have a whole world of reads you could be talking through. Especially me. I want people to read my filter and take stances on me. That would be great instead of keeping me in their back pockets for no reason.

Either way if you still want to ignore reading there's scott to talk about, vivax, obi, oats, rsoul, trfel, ebh, kelsier many many people
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 17:07 GMT
#6030
So keep pressing people for responses? Link me where you talked about him and I'll give my input. Off the top of my head I'd say he's been somewhat reasonable and slightly towny.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 17:11 GMT
#6032
I don't see how milo's flip changes a vivax read at all? Iirc it was based on him not scum reading kelsier looking back at d1 or something?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 17:41 GMT
#6037
Hm the more i think about trfel the more it's obvious he hasn't read a thing past the first half of d1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 17:44 GMT
#6039
On July 14 2015 02:41 Holyflare wrote:
Hm the more i think about trfel the more it's obvious he hasn't read a thing past the first half of d1


Well he KNOWS what's happening somehow but all his reads are stuck back in the first few posts that people made kind of thing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 18:04 GMT
#6049
On July 14 2015 02:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 02:51 Vivax wrote:
On July 14 2015 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 14 2015 02:31 Vivax wrote:
Besides if I was mafia with him I'd already be bussing the shit outta him. Call it wifom if you want, you can, but it's just what I know of my own play.

The clarity arguments on me made him sketchy as fuck in my book given the way he mixed stuff in it that doesn't mean anything, as if he was trying to reinforce his argument at any cost with the shittiest arguments even and that's not what I'd expect of him given I wouldn't expect him to be that tunneled on me already in that post.


What things have I said that aren't true?


That I have given no opinion on milo when I do it right while I give the read on Scott and a bunch of other people.

Saying I did nothing about the BM lynch like I was supposed to do more than I did when it wouldn't make any sense.

Saying Kelsier's D1 was "fine" as if that was a reason to townread him. I said that on D1 trolling or not doing much doesn't mean anything and the Palmar flip proves me right.

Overall your entire post looks like a massive, unobjective shitflinging and it pissed me quite off.


You literally said "I don't know about milo, I'll need to think more about him" 12 hours before lynchtime or whatever. OUR CURRENT LYNCH TARGET and you're in no rush to get a read on him apparently.

Doing nothing about the BM lynch would be fine, I was perfectly happy switching I thought he was a better lynch at the time. However you thought the lynch was HORRIBLE and just let it happen anyway. "lol u guys are all bad lynching the claimed wanderer" followed with no alternative or caring about moving the lynch target.

I'm not saying you should townread Kelsier at all (although you should). What I was saying, and this is my third time pointing it out to you, is that YOU saying his d1 was fine but he's done nothing after that, when the only scummy thing he's done AFAIK is being so indifferent during d1 lynch. Somehow you missed this but you still read him as scum. It makes no sense.


Woah there nelly! Didn't you just accuse me of wasting my time trying to get a read on milo?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 18:19 GMT
#6061
On July 14 2015 03:17 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 03:11 ruXxar wrote:
@HF:
It's hard to determine milo's alignment when he isn't even willing to defend himself or participate in answering questions.


Ask me a question.


i've asked you like a 1000 rofl, wtfh -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 18:56 GMT
#6081
On July 13 2015 06:41 boxerfred wrote:
is HF still fighting with milo? Just coming by, not reading through, no time before bad. but if HF is still only doing shitfights with milo, he's highly suspicious.


On July 13 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
None of my talks with milo have been shit fights like you keep insinuating in the slightest. I do not know whether he is mafia or not and am trying to get him to explain himself since he is wildly inconsistent. Furthermore, bf, I think you could actually be mafia for comments like that since you add nothing, say nothing and instead insite useless accusations that you have no basis to make repeatedly.


last time you were in the thread was equally productive, mind mentioning where i shit up the thread with milo in the first place and how it looked like i was doing it again while you proclaim you aren't reading?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 19:40 GMT
#6086
Lol i really don't understand how you can be mid way through telling me why I'm mafia and then i ask you some questions and you disappear and don't remember anything about it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 19:41 GMT
#6087
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=301
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 19:54 GMT
#6091
You didn't fall asleep at that point because you returned to the thread previously and ruxxar asked you questions. Other people aren't invested because you are trolling this game and don't have a single coherent thought process. Why bother coming back to the thread if you don't care? If you do care why don't you respond to the questions you KNOW are still there for you to answer?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 13 2015 19:59 GMT
#6093
On July 14 2015 01:21 Holyflare wrote:
You say I'm trying to always steer town in the wrong direction too. You can't have both facts be true. Either you are town and me not wanting to lynch you today was steering town in the right direction or you're mafia in which case that fact wouldnt maKe sense. Im either mafia for saying you might be town or mafia for trying to save you today? Lol? Not to mention rsoultin was in your scum reads day 1 and 2 and i was pushing her all game (hts day 1 too) so I'm not sure in the slightest how that read makes sense in your mind. Doesn't that mean you are guilty of the same thing? When does being wrong change to being mafia? Where am i focusing on the minute details because in pretty much the entirety of my reads it has been overarching gameplay points I've been making?
On July 14 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 01:18 milo109 wrote:
On July 14 2015 01:16 Holyflare wrote:
So what you're saying is that because you're town that people shouldn't waver on you being mafia at all? its a mafia trait to be unsure when (to you at least) everyone is wrong? I don't think you have the correct approach to what makes someone mafia if that is the case. Despite that, me being "sure" someone is mafia and backing off that is also not something i do as mafia ever because you would be by far amd large the easiest mislynch in this game right now.


But this will go through without you, as I"m sure you're smart enough to realize. You'll also realize that when I flip town, people will look at who was most certain about my lynch. Which is about everyone, but still you're the careful sort of mafia. You decide to defend me today, so you can separate yourself from a clear mislynch, and use the position of high ground to throw scum on the others who did push me.


Perhaps you don't know how we play but that is the most opposite effect that i would have ever thought of.


Respond to this then?
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