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On July 11 2015 05:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 03:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night. This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_- Why is what Vivax posted last night scummy? No let's do this. Do you think what he posted last night is not scummy? I think its pretty damn null. Well that's pretty damn weak. Vivax does the same thing wave does. Come in, make an excuse for his play, and bails. A townie doesn't go "hey guys, sorry I'm bad, gonna keep being bad until you lynch me" a townie tries their best to appear town. Vivax and wave aren't thinking like that, they're just trying to find excuses for their scummy play rather than actually try to appear more townie by helping scum hunt. you've played enough that you can't genuinely believe this is true in a blanket fashion
No its not always true but I think barring new players and people who just don't give a fuck like coagulation and Bill Murray it's a safe statement. Especially since both Wave and Vivax are experienced enough to understand that even if they're not feeling the game it's still important to at least try and participate. Perhaps my meta reads really are out of date but I don't remember wave fucking off as town. However if they're scum they'd both be understandably discouraged and looking for excuses to stay out of the thread seeing as it appears we've caught at least two scum.
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On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will.
Sure.
It is impressive how you manage to point things like this out but are able to avoid giving an opinion on him like the plague.
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On July 11 2015 05:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Cute case, good effort but we're lynching Damdred today and the next day decide what to do with milo.
A lot of your points is that I have no followup on things, that's true, cause when I don't find resonance on a player for something I found suspicious I just move on and look elsewhere for something that convinces more people. And at the time I posted those maybe 2 other people were scumreading geript, and everybody except you didn't seem interested in what I wrote about Damdred.
I don't try to push myself into the foreground to lynch a single player if my best arguments weren't perceived as strong or interesting in the first place, especially not on D1.
Several shit-tastic tunnels you've made on me d1 say otherwise
^^^ Yeh that's why I felt it important to ask about geript.
I can understand why you DIDN'T follow up on Damdred though - you say "I can see town perspective but based on my read on LS, it might be malicious" so I can buy the argument for Damdred.
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On July 11 2015 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will. When I pointed it out it's like... I dunno, like he would be yelling rsoultin is scum, and then when rsoultin points out a reason HF is scum he would spend two paragraphs explaining why he would do said thing as either scum or town. He didn't do it because rsoultin's argument was scummy, but rather only to defend himself, which is weird if he is relatively confident that rsoultin is scum. Stuff like that. Like obviously you get accused you defend yourself but he takes every little thing and then acts like he needs to fight his hardest to not get lynched on the spot, and that kinda defensiveness I see coming from scum more than town.It's just a feeling tho
I can tell you, for free, that I do that a lot more as town than mafia.
And HF is in general quite a similar-minded person to me.
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On July 11 2015 05:17 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will. Sure. It is impressive how you manage to point things like this out but are able to avoid giving an opinion on him like the plague.
yes, I'm quite impressed myself.
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On July 11 2015 05:17 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will. Sure. It is impressive how you manage to point things like this out but are able to avoid giving an opinion on him like the plague.
Homes you need to drop the HF shit now, you're no better than rsoultin at this point.
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On July 11 2015 05:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will. When I pointed it out it's like... I dunno, like he would be yelling rsoultin is scum, and then when rsoultin points out a reason HF is scum he would spend two paragraphs explaining why he would do said thing as either scum or town. He didn't do it because rsoultin's argument was scummy, but rather only to defend himself, which is weird if he is relatively confident that rsoultin is scum. Stuff like that. Like obviously you get accused you defend yourself but he takes every little thing and then acts like he needs to fight his hardest to not get lynched on the spot, and that kinda defensiveness I see coming from scum more than town.It's just a feeling tho I can tell you, for free, that I do that a lot more as town than mafia. And HF is in general quite a similar-minded person to me.
Fine fine. Hopefully the nightkills will clear things up a bit.
You wanna lynch milo tomorrow marv? Or are you gonna push MZ?
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i'm hoping a vigi shoots MZ in the face.
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sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p
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On July 11 2015 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
i'm hoping a vigi shoots MZ in the face.
I want to reiterate this. I'm going to post a bit more tonight. But I don't see any reason not to shoot MZ or to shoot other people over MZ. Yes, shooting MZ is boring and expected and you'll get zero credit for it. However, it's important to note that he will 100% be lynched at some point. So by shooting him, it lets us gain more information than shooting anyone else.
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On July 11 2015 05:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:09 marvellosity wrote:On July 11 2015 03:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 03:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 11 2015 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 11 2015 02:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sigh. Marv just because you can't see why I liked ritoky over milo doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact if you look at everything that's happened subsequently I've been right about their play.
But if you're hell bent lynching me we'll cross that bridge in a day or or two.
In the meantime can anyone justify why they don't want to lynch vivax after the little shit he posted last night about "being lazy"? being right =/= being town. You are hardly in a position to talk about Vivax not posting. Why is that scummy? I feel like you literally are not reading my posts oats. I asked why people didn't want to lynch vivax after what he posted last night. This is not the first time I've had to clarify myself for you when you could simply have read my posts -_- Why is what Vivax posted last night scummy? No let's do this. Do you think what he posted last night is not scummy? I think its pretty damn null. Well that's pretty damn weak. Vivax does the same thing wave does. Come in, make an excuse for his play, and bails. A townie doesn't go "hey guys, sorry I'm bad, gonna keep being bad until you lynch me" a townie tries their best to appear town. Vivax and wave aren't thinking like that, they're just trying to find excuses for their scummy play rather than actually try to appear more townie by helping scum hunt. you've played enough that you can't genuinely believe this is true in a blanket fashion No its not always true but I think barring new players and people who just don't give a fuck like coagulation and Bill Murray it's a safe statement. Especially since both Wave and Vivax are experienced enough to understand that even if they're not feeling the game it's still important to at least try and participate. Perhaps my meta reads really are out of date but I don't remember wave fucking off as town. However if they're scum they'd both be understandably discouraged and looking for excuses to stay out of the thread seeing as it appears we've caught at least two scum.
Regarding the Vivax meta thing - he has mentioned a month or two ago that he was purposely trying to change his meta (trash his town meta or w/e) in Assassination and I didn't believe him at that time. Take that as you will.
If Vivax is town - and he may be - it's a bit aggravating - to Clarity's point (last post) on Vivax - yeh there are 23 players left in this game and there's other shit happening in this game that is worth commenting on. Several players have voiced the concern that there are 1-2 players skating by under the claim ruckus/shitfighting/other dominant issues in the thread and at the very least if you are town, you can try to help ferret that out, otherwise we're liable to think you might be one of those people.
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On July 11 2015 05:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:16 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will. When I pointed it out it's like... I dunno, like he would be yelling rsoultin is scum, and then when rsoultin points out a reason HF is scum he would spend two paragraphs explaining why he would do said thing as either scum or town. He didn't do it because rsoultin's argument was scummy, but rather only to defend himself, which is weird if he is relatively confident that rsoultin is scum. Stuff like that. Like obviously you get accused you defend yourself but he takes every little thing and then acts like he needs to fight his hardest to not get lynched on the spot, and that kinda defensiveness I see coming from scum more than town.It's just a feeling tho I can tell you, for free, that I do that a lot more as town than mafia. And HF is in general quite a similar-minded person to me.
That might be true but there are huge differences in your play. Your thought process for catching mafia is very similar but your way of presenting yourself in the game and arguing your points is very very different if that makes sense. If you were under suspicion as town you would react very differently.
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On July 11 2015 05:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:17 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 05:12 marvellosity wrote:
btw there is nothing wrong with HF defending himself.
It's an extremely natural reaction and it's ridiculous to suggest he shouldn't. Of course he will. Sure. It is impressive how you manage to point things like this out but are able to avoid giving an opinion on him like the plague. Homes you need to drop the HF shit now, you're no better than rsoultin at this point.
Oh, no. Whatever will I do.
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HI EVERYONE,
the first thing is like to say is ty everyone for a mildly enjoyable game, it wasn't to much a pain to read when I sat down and read it wven if it was long. Most everyone is a joy to play with and I'm glad I was able to play for a short time with some of my favorites <3
So now to get down to the basics of trying to leave the game in a better place when I die even though I've played like an idiot today.
I feel like these people are extremely towny still in this game and are probably the top town.
Marv
Ruxxar
Geript
Ritoky
hark
Each one of these has something special about their games. I was deathly wrong about ritoky early because he broke his meta that I knew of him, but his later postings plus the kp went through even though he was blocked. Hark and geript are confirmed blues to me, geript tracked me to my target can't argue there. Hark ate a shot and Marv is his normal towny self.
LS is interesting I'm that he claims he gave a gun to someone but we have a shit ton of blue claims, so if someone pipes up tommorow claiming a horrible shot o. One of these top towns its possible ls is fake claiming scum vigi on some bizzaro world but overall I think the claim is pretty believable.
I like both HTS and I like Breshke. Both seem to care about the game and generally are trying to push what they think in the thread.
Those are the people I am generally town reading no matter what.
People I'm scum reading are
Rsoultin
Milo
MZ
Trfel
I've talked a good bit about Milo and rsoultin in my filter lynch them.
geript and a few others seem sure about mz. Theblack of carss bothers me and the ability to actively lurk while barely doing much. Wave fits in this category to btw.
Trfel doesn't care to me when I look at the game more than likely is scum
If I had to guess the last scum its someone in hf or wave. But maybe I'm horrible at reading wave, ke maybe to idk a bit torn
any questions I'll be happy to answer before death
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On July 11 2015 05:22 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
i'm hoping a vigi shoots MZ in the face. I want to reiterate this. I'm going to post a bit more tonight. But I don't see any reason not to shoot MZ or to shoot other people over MZ. Yes, shooting MZ is boring and expected and you'll get zero credit for it. However, it's important to note that he will 100% be lynched at some point. So by shooting him, it lets us gain more information than shooting anyone else.
Yes, 100 % agreed.
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On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p
I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are.
I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me.
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On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are. I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me.
i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia
you should reconsider your read :p
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I've played horribly but I might as well leave thoughts as I die
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