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Ruxarino doesn't know my scum meta, so I won't blame him.
Let's put it like that: If at any time I show more activity later in the game than I did on D1, I'm definitely not mafia. I'm capable of making people think I'm town on D1 on a good game but after that point it's a road downhill in activity and post quality and I end up getting lynched. I don't think I've ever survived a game as mafia except in LVIII where nobody knew me well enough to catch me on the activity.
As for today's lynch HF would be a good step forward. Will slap my vote on him eventually. To be honest I have no idea if he's mafia and I don't care cause he's the probably best scum player I've ever seen and if he doesn't get NKd we're left with no choice.
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On July 16 2015 02:27 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 03:04 Vivax wrote:On July 14 2015 02:58 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 14 2015 02:51 Vivax wrote:On July 14 2015 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 14 2015 02:31 Vivax wrote:
Besides if I was mafia with him I'd already be bussing the shit outta him. Call it wifom if you want, you can, but it's just what I know of my own play.
The clarity arguments on me made him sketchy as fuck in my book given the way he mixed stuff in it that doesn't mean anything, as if he was trying to reinforce his argument at any cost with the shittiest arguments even and that's not what I'd expect of him given I wouldn't expect him to be that tunneled on me already in that post. What things have I said that aren't true? That I have given no opinion on milo when I do it right while I give the read on Scott and a bunch of other people. Saying I did nothing about the BM lynch like I was supposed to do more than I did when it wouldn't make any sense. Saying Kelsier's D1 was "fine" as if that was a reason to townread him. I said that on D1 trolling or not doing much doesn't mean anything and the Palmar flip proves me right. Overall your entire post looks like a massive, unobjective shitflinging and it pissed me quite off. You literally said "I don't know about milo, I'll need to think more about him" 12 hours before lynchtime or whatever. OUR CURRENT LYNCH TARGET and you're in no rush to get a read on him apparently. Doing nothing about the BM lynch would be fine, I was perfectly happy switching I thought he was a better lynch at the time. However you thought the lynch was HORRIBLE and just let it happen anyway. "lol u guys are all bad lynching the claimed wanderer" followed with no alternative or caring about moving the lynch target. I'm not saying you should townread Kelsier at all (although you should). What I was saying, and this is my third time pointing it out to you, is that YOU saying his d1 was fine but he's done nothing after that, when the only scummy thing he's done AFAIK is being so indifferent during d1 lynch. Somehow you missed this but you still read him as scum. It makes no sense. Again you spew the same trash as before. There's nothing I can do more than complain about the BM lynch and leave my vote on MZ. I'm not the entire game, other people were way more influential and I didn't plan on flailing around like an idiot cause of that lynch. As for the first and third text blocks, that's nothing that makes me mafia it's just my personal preference on WHO I form reads, how I form them, if I form them etc. and you try to twist it as if it was the only possible town play possible. Maybe I just don't give two shits about milo cause I don't give two shits if he's the main wagon since N1. I form reads how I want them and I'm certainly even less willing to form one now that you're on my ass with these trash tier arguments. There's very few things that make a person exclusively scum. A lot of people look scummy even though they're town, just look at all the people we've lynched so far. I'm not saying that only scum would do this, but the case + tunnel on geript seems artificial to me. Right now I think part of the key to solving this game lies in trfel, and here's why: Trfel was an easy target to push with the terrible content he had posted so far. HF started pushing him and it was a low risk case to sheep for scum since HF is a strong player that would take the brunt of the force on himself. I think you will find the scum amongst the people that jumped on the scum-read train of trfel without really pushing him, or in people hard defending him knowing he is town. These people are: EBH, Me, Vivax, Rsoultin. I'm thinking there is 1 or maybe 2 mafia in here, and I'm most suspicious of rsoultin and vivax atm.
It's only natural to have preferences among the people you push. I could turn around the accusation and say that you're soft pushing EBH while really only pushing me and rso, but I know better than using that argument cause it doesn't mean a thing.
On D1 I wanted MZ or Trfel more dead than BM, on D2 it was autopilot on Dam, on D3 I'd have preferred Scott over milo, today I'm going to agree on killing HF alone for the fact he's alive after Harkon and marv flipped.
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On July 16 2015 03:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think BF is mafia.
What happened to the opinion you had on D1? It strikes me as scummy than it seems so different now, given the previous hyperbole.
On July 06 2015 08:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:ya fuck that guy imo
On July 06 2015 08:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare might be mafia for thinking that Marv is mafia.
My vote is serious now.
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To be clear, since you posted that stuff D1 I'd have expected you to be the first dude to be happy to just jump on the HF train and push it.
Now it seems to be the opposite and you mention some other dudes being mafia in your opinion.
See where I'm coming from?
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Boxer's contributions on the last two pages feel really towny to me. Any reason you're being a pain in the ass to him for no reason, Oats? He's not your scumread.
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Yeah I'll be voting HF. He's too big of a threat at this point and if he's town at least what he said will be sheepable and probably good.
##Vote HF
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See ya HF. Don't be mad that people have to be afraid of you every game for a good reason.
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Gonna sheep the fuck out of HF if he flips town.
You can hold me onto this later.
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I don't know how so many feel confident in him being town, including you. I really have no idea what he is, every game I just treat him as if he didn't exist until it becomes an issue cause I don't want to go insane trying to get a read on him.
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Ok I'm unvoting and taking that risk.
Gonna try to find an alternative and also do a quick reread of Carol pre-HF-lynch.
##Unvote
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Don't really like Obi as the alternative wagon. Would much rather kill Wave or Trfel methinks.
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I'm willing to scrap Ruxxar, Obi and BF as mafia for now, feeling like rso disappeared from the spotlight completely.
Rereading Wave I also have no way of getting a clue on him, but I think what I said earlier about Kelsier and mafia being dicks to town are mafia being dicks to their team was pretty spot on and since WoS is being a dick I'll actually unvote this guy too.
So for me EBH, Clarity and Trfel are good choices. HTS and rso I need to digest first, didn't really read them so far.
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HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it?
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On July 17 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote:
HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it? trfel has some stuff in a spoiler that's borderline DMA
Dunno what DMA means, but the stuff in spoilers is indeed very voluminous. I'm fine with scrapping Trfel today then.
Let's kill VA then?
##Unvote
##Vote EBH
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On July 17 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 04:52 Vivax wrote:On July 17 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote:
HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it? trfel has some stuff in a spoiler that's borderline DMA Dunno what DMA means, but the stuff in spoilers is indeed very voluminous. I'm fine with scrapping Trfel today then. Let's kill VA then? ##Unvote
##Vote EBH don't particularly want to kill VA :D :D :D
Breshke?
On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.
##Vote Milo
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On July 09 2015 14:15 Breshke wrote:
That's a really sick post clarity.
Especially like why the fuck did he try a fake check when ritoky claimed RB and he doesn't think there can be two mafia rb's.
I almost want to lynch milo first now but damdred would be the mafia RB'r so yeah
On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.
##Vote Milo
Yeah let's do Breshke, cmon people !
##Unvote
##Vote Breshke
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HF if you don't do any of the suggested I'm afraid I'll end up voting you anyway. Breshke has a good shot at being mafia cause of the mentioned backtrack.
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On July 17 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 05:02 Vivax wrote:
HF if you don't do any of the suggested I'm afraid I'll end up voting you anyway. Breshke has a good shot at being mafia cause of the mentioned backtrack. Can you make a scumteam of 3 with Breshke on it and Hf off of it?
Too much work and too many people I have no way of reading properly, so I have to decline.
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On July 17 2015 05:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 05:01 Vivax wrote:On July 09 2015 14:15 Breshke wrote:
That's a really sick post clarity.
Especially like why the fuck did he try a fake check when ritoky claimed RB and he doesn't think there can be two mafia rb's.
I almost want to lynch milo first now but damdred would be the mafia RB'r so yeah On July 09 2015 14:36 Breshke wrote:
Actually no we don't gain anything from taking the risk and lynching damdred today. Fairly sure either way geript and ritoky get no more checks this game.
##Vote Milo Yeah let's do Breshke, cmon people ! ##Unvote
##Vote Breshke Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote:
I also NEVER said lynching damdred over milo would be bad i said it didnt matter at the time WHO we lynched because i was under the assumption there was 1 RB and they were BOTH mafia. In wich case the two claimed investigative roles who had claimed a the time that i believed were never getting a cheack off no matter who we lynched.
didn't hate his explanation
Except Damdred claimed JK and not an investigative role and Bresh was aware of a roleblocker, so this explanation sounds pretty bad.
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HF has a point, but not cause of what he said:
On July 06 2015 13:08 Breshke wrote:
I also kind of townread KSC for whatever he is trying to say about damdred. I think damdred is super town and his bigish post about LS makes me really want to lynch LS but i feel KSC wouldnt be sending himself in a loop without really having a point if he was scum.
I really have a hard time seeing a mafia be so cocky in townreading his teammates.
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