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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 05 2015 18:58 GMT
#754
On July 06 2015 03:57 Cixah wrote:
Hmm I have reading to do, I'm hesitant to just jump on the GB train just yet. Even if what you guys say makes sense, it is a bit too easy. Gimme a few minutes and I'll make my post. Something doesn't sit right here.

find us his scumbuddies then, and we can lynch them before him then.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 00:43 GMT
#784
On July 06 2015 09:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Wave, what did you think of my LT post? I was hoping to get at least a little feedback =(

"wave-sempai pls notice me"
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 00:52 GMT
#785
On July 06 2015 09:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Why are people forgetting that Dandel lynched HF out of nothing and not trying to understand his motivations further? If there is someone we should be looking at, it should be Dandel.

I'm catching up, and this post is very suspicions to my eyes:

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2015 23:13 ComaDose wrote:
On July 03 2015 06:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 03 2015 06:50 ComaDose wrote:
i think you just voted cixah for mayor tho


ty based Coma we bros now

help me find the sinister mods

I have always been, and will continue to be, an anti-mod activist + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

On July 03 2015 08:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
sorry for the fluffy post that was my first post and i'm really new to mafia but yes i did not support asmo as mayor

I legit have no history to read into in mafia and it seems like a lot of people know how others play from the past so i feel at a disadvantage and dont want to put myself out there too much making hard claims

who do i support for mayor... hmm... well LT, mordek, cixah, and asmo seem inclined to vote for plot. I dont know how common it is for someone to fake a claim but if he is on the level then a "neutral" mayor would probably lynch the most popular pick at the time in the thread which seems probably good.

I agree that soniv and wave seem to be doing good town work and maybe that would be an okay place to bestow the mayor mantle as well. might even stretch to include LT in this group because i feel like his statement about HF was more for bait than an actual clumsy scum move.

cixah was a proponent for asmo and only said plot would be an okay choice too but a few people are leaning toward thinking he is scum: soniv, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, and wave seemed pretty set on voting for someone who would lynch him


Coma, there are a lot of words here, but you're not saying a whole lot. You're largely just summarizing what other people have said, and adding a bit of speculation. Do you have any soft reads? Any leanings?

Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.

Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.

The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.

If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.

And on to the only person I didn't mention in those ramblings:
##Vote plotspot
because I believe his claim and the odds suggest its more likely he will learn he is poster than mod.
also he said "everyone who votes for me will be remove from my lynch list" so i know I'm protecting a poster (myself) by voting for him if he wins.


So I have a problem with this. If he doesn't understand why people are mad with VE, WHY is he voting for mayor the guy that wants to lynch VE? Also, WHY his claim has something to do with someone being votable and WHY it suggests plotspot is more likely to be a poster??? It doesn't make any sense.

On July 06 2015 09:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
flipping for information lol

okay we only have one option left to salvage this
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
##Vote Holyflare


This guy even voted Holyflare for mayor, for christ sake!!!


It's fairly obvious why Holyflare got lynched. He literally did nothing but post memes, and pretty much everyone active (COUGH COUGH) in town was ok with it.

As some point, everyone sobered up. HF...did not, until near the very end, besides point out BM's vote. He brought it on himself, especially since his other mafia game ended before EoD.

On July 06 2015 09:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post.

Still,

On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.

I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me.

Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town.

Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town.

Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.

You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads).

The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.

pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch.

This is the section which I really don't like.


If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.

Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking.

Also,
#vote: Dandel Ion
Getting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement.

My order of preference:
Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else


Can you tell me how the HELL did you have a strong town read on dandel?

You don't read his posts do you.

Between the memes and drunkenness (as well as during), he was making good insights and passing my reaction tests. Given he didn't lynch scum, I'm somewhat less enthused but he's certainly not scummy because he failed a D1 lynch.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 00:54 GMT
#786
I wouldn't call him next-confirmed town since he failed to lynch scum (and I am obvious town so I clearly take that place), but still.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 00:55 GMT
#789
On July 06 2015 09:54 Dandel Ion wrote:
i didnt fail
hf failed us

...pretty much, yeah

HF's filter D1 was legit trash
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 01:24 GMT
#792
On July 06 2015 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 09:52 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 06 2015 09:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Why are people forgetting that Dandel lynched HF out of nothing and not trying to understand his motivations further? If there is someone we should be looking at, it should be Dandel.

I'm catching up, and this post is very suspicions to my eyes:

On July 03 2015 23:13 ComaDose wrote:
On July 03 2015 06:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 03 2015 06:50 ComaDose wrote:
i think you just voted cixah for mayor tho


ty based Coma we bros now

help me find the sinister mods

I have always been, and will continue to be, an anti-mod activist + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

On July 03 2015 08:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
sorry for the fluffy post that was my first post and i'm really new to mafia but yes i did not support asmo as mayor

I legit have no history to read into in mafia and it seems like a lot of people know how others play from the past so i feel at a disadvantage and dont want to put myself out there too much making hard claims

who do i support for mayor... hmm... well LT, mordek, cixah, and asmo seem inclined to vote for plot. I dont know how common it is for someone to fake a claim but if he is on the level then a "neutral" mayor would probably lynch the most popular pick at the time in the thread which seems probably good.

I agree that soniv and wave seem to be doing good town work and maybe that would be an okay place to bestow the mayor mantle as well. might even stretch to include LT in this group because i feel like his statement about HF was more for bait than an actual clumsy scum move.

cixah was a proponent for asmo and only said plot would be an okay choice too but a few people are leaning toward thinking he is scum: soniv, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, and wave seemed pretty set on voting for someone who would lynch him


Coma, there are a lot of words here, but you're not saying a whole lot. You're largely just summarizing what other people have said, and adding a bit of speculation. Do you have any soft reads? Any leanings?

Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.

Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.

The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.

If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.

And on to the only person I didn't mention in those ramblings:
##Vote plotspot
because I believe his claim and the odds suggest its more likely he will learn he is poster than mod.
also he said "everyone who votes for me will be remove from my lynch list" so i know I'm protecting a poster (myself) by voting for him if he wins.


So I have a problem with this. If he doesn't understand why people are mad with VE, WHY is he voting for mayor the guy that wants to lynch VE? Also, WHY his claim has something to do with someone being votable and WHY it suggests plotspot is more likely to be a poster??? It doesn't make any sense.

On July 06 2015 09:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 04 2015 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
flipping for information lol

okay we only have one option left to salvage this
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
##Vote Holyflare


This guy even voted Holyflare for mayor, for christ sake!!!


It's fairly obvious why Holyflare got lynched. He literally did nothing but post memes, and pretty much everyone active (COUGH COUGH) in town was ok with it.

As some point, everyone sobered up. HF...did not, until near the very end, besides point out BM's vote. He brought it on himself, especially since his other mafia game ended before EoD.

On July 06 2015 09:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post.

Still,

On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.

I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me.

Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town.

Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town.

Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.

You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads).

The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.

pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch.

This is the section which I really don't like.


If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.

Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking.

Also,
#vote: Dandel Ion
Getting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement.

My order of preference:
Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else


Can you tell me how the HELL did you have a strong town read on dandel?

You don't read his posts do you.

Between the memes and drunkenness (as well as during), he was making good insights and passing my reaction tests. Given he didn't lynch scum, I'm somewhat less enthused but he's certainly not scummy because he failed a D1 lynch.


Well, those memes made HF null at best. And you also said HF is scum if he survives long enough. Why agreeing with lynching him, then?
Also, why Dandel, if trolly town, couldn't believe holyflare was also trolly town?

So many better people to lynch. SO many people.

And tell me why I'm mafia other than "GB is afraid of wave hurr durr"

Mostly sheer annoyance. Even if you aren't strong town.

Dandel was being serious at times. HF was not, despite multiple people asking him to do something relevant. He explained his reasoning for not lynching 6ah or Asmo, who were the alternate lynch candidates at the time (and I should note that this is their second game of mafia, and I believe the same for Coma as well, and they're in "I don't know what I'm doing" mode). Newbie defense is piss-poor, but you should consider their posts in that light to understand why.


On July 06 2015 09:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't like Tolkien jumping on my wagon after having a strong town meta read on me. THIS one feels opportunistic. Other than that, his posts feels very wishy washy. I don't really saw him doing much more than calling himself town and raising faint suspicions on people.

I also think every Cixah posts reek scummy. I've pointed out why and it's all on my filter.

Soniv, you had me as town. You're calling me scum out of inactivity. If you do not consider inactivity, do you feel I'm scum or town?

ComaDose... I don't know... he feels... scummy in some posts, but in others he feels like playing fluidly. I don't really know what to make of it

Bill is being useless and just following thread sentiment, or wasting his votes, like his mayor vote on Asmodeus. His jump on my wagon is pretty baseless, also. His vote on Asmodeus had no reevaluation and he isn't actively trying to solve the game. Probably scum.

My preferred target today is Cixah, since I can't see him coming from town perspective. Other than that, I could lynch Bill.

1) You still don't know how to read me. I upped you to a town lean after you were willing to fite me over wav. Then you AFK at EoD, and you come back D2 super scummy (all muh meta scum tells blare: inactive/lurking GB usually=scum, super-defensive GB=scum).

2) I would also be fine lynching Bill, actually, so hrm. You. Hrm.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 01:26 GMT
#793
*Mostly sheer annoyance. Even if you are a strong player, literally trolling through the entire day without contributing anything is annoying.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 02:54 GMT
#813
Change of plans.

#Vote: Cixah
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 02:55 GMT
#816
*#Unvote
#Vote: Cixah
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 02:59 GMT
#817
The fact that everyone on my shit list (you included) is voting for him, bar coma, speaks volumes, really.

Also his posts after his disaster beginning of D2 series is...better.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 03:01 GMT
#818
As in, I can legitimately get the feeling he was RL busy EoD and night, and got blindsided early D2, and responded without thinking things through.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 03:01 GMT
#819
Which...sounds like GB to me.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 03:03 GMT
#821
On July 06 2015 12:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
The fact that everyone on my shit list (you included) is voting for him, bar coma, speaks volumes, really.

Also his posts after his disaster beginning of D2 series is...better.

GBs posts are better?

And what about the wagon on 6ah yesterday being bad for the exact same reasons you are unvoting GB now?
lul

I'm reconsidering my town circle.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 03:12 GMT
#823
He is also on my shitlist, so I'm considering putting you in my townpile asmo. Just maybe.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 22:03 GMT
#945
...my vote is on 6ah.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 22:16 GMT
#950
#RLthings

Also no. I will tell you a secret.

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I am confirmed town
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 22:16 GMT
#951
Anyways. Tracker claim. Hrm.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 22:17 GMT
#952
##Unvote
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 22:21 GMT
#953
##Vote Cixah
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 06 2015 22:29 GMT
#956
Argh, to lynch "roleblocked" blue claim or not, that is the question.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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