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On July 04 2015 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Excuse me LT I had a series of posts being suspicious of Cixah's general flakiness and you're not mentioning that all. If you don't feel like that's valuable, even though you seem to agree he's scum, pls explain to me why.
As I noted, what you did today of note is:
1) fk you 6ah
2) I'm suspicious of BM
This does make me want to kill 6ah more, mind you, because more alignment indication after flip, but hey.
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On July 04 2015 03:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
My post definitely wasn't just "he's coming for me oh noez" but "he started completely on the me train with BM's randomness and then flipped ENTIRELY as people found a vote for me less appealing". That's what's weird to me. BM weirds me out too but Cixah's seems more sinister.
If I DID get mayor, he'd be my lynch atm. I just don't have a better candidate, especially since everyone seems way more aboard the dank memes team than I am. If that's how the town wants to play, okay, I just don't like the style.
If you genuinely think Dandel's the best choice, I want to hear why. I haven't heard a reason beyond vague assertions that his trolling is somehow a town play.
Just based purely on the interactions I've had with him.
On July 03 2015 03:32 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right now I vote the mayor lynch Holyflare. He's too quiet and honestly? I've played with scum!HF as both town and scum and he's a goddamn pain to figure out (if he's scum). you know sober i wqould lynch you fgor this but right now im very much in the favor of lynching ppl who are too much wordk
This is the correct response to attempting to lynch HF D1.
On July 04 2015 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
flipping for information lol
okay we only have one option left to salvage this
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
##Vote Holyflare
This is also the correct response to my reasoning.
I would still vote for information, mind you, but that's just me.
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You guys seriously need to get better at filtering out his trolling from his actual posts.
It's painful and difficult, but he's actually posted alot of his opinions already.
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On July 04 2015 03:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post. Still, On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking. I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me. Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town. Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town. Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters. You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads). The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.
One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know. pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch. This is the section which I really don't like. If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help. Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking. Also, #vote: Dandel IonGetting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement. My order of preference: Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else Ugh, LT, this post...I don't know what to think. For most of the day, I've gotten fairly town readings from you. But there are certain things (ie. strutting around that you're "confirmed town") that I really dislike about your play.I find myself nodding along with a lot of the things you say in the above post. But I don't understand how you have a solid town read on dandel. He may not be lurking, but he's not contributed tons, and I'm not sure how you can have a strong read on anyone at this point.
But I am confirmed town. Here, let me confirm it for you.
Lord Tolkien is confirmed town
And honestly, I don't care what you think about me so long as you agree with my logic.
+ Show Spoiler +
And honestly, people who care too much about what town thinks of them are probably scum.
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On July 04 2015 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't agree with your logic either.
Dandel who are you going to lynch?
And that is why I don't trust you with a position of leadership.
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On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.
1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.
In response to each.
1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).
You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.
What are your reads outside of Asmo?
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Plus at this stage, I can't get behind lynching lurkers because they don't give any alignment information based on who pushed what, since it would be a coin-toss. I expect BM and Holyflare to start posting more actively D2, or be shot N1.
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On July 04 2015 04:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you think either BM or HF get shot after playing like this today then I absolutely know your logic can't be trusted.
I would actually lynch HF today if for whatever reason we don't hit Cixah.
1) Shush nonbeliever. There remains a high probability that they still get shot, for reasons.
2) And if Holyflare is town, does he give us any information on the flip? Nope. D2 fucking absolutely lynch him if he continues on, but not D1.
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On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.
1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo. In response to each. 1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro. 2) See above. 3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum). You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo. What are your reads outside of Asmo? Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB. Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.
Explanation for the bolded why
To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.
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On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.
1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo. In response to each. 1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro. 2) See above. 3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum). You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo. What are your reads outside of Asmo? Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB. Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile. Explanation for the bolded why
To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy. This is never good evidence. I've made this exact post as scum before.
It indicates one of two things.
1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.
Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.
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On July 04 2015 04:25 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.
1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo. In response to each. 1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro. 2) See above. 3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum). You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo. What are your reads outside of Asmo? Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB. Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile. Explanation for the bolded why To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy. Dandel seems to have a grasp of this game that I don't have yet and so far I like his reads. Coma is asking questions and trying to push town agendas. Wave is fighting town on everything, generally just trying to kick dirt into the air and make things harder. BM is remaining mostly neutral while also not contributing new information to any topics posted.
1) ok
2) errrr....alright
3) mostly because I've been mostly deliberately prodding him to get a better read on him, but sure
4) he's lurking until D2, this should be null
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On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.
1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo. In response to each. 1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro. 2) See above. 3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum). You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo. What are your reads outside of Asmo? Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB. Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile. Explanation for the bolded why
To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy. This is never good evidence. I've made this exact post as scum before. It indicates one of two things. 1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on 2) + Show Spoiler +Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early. Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read. WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing. You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.
There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.
As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).
No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.
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That pretty much is enough to make me suspicious.
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If Coma/6ah are actually scum team, then the mods is shit at balancing. And I will laugh.
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On July 04 2015 04:44 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 04:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If Coma/6ah are actually scum team, then the mods is shit at balancing. And I will laugh. Nobody balances. It's RNG. Stop making terrible associations day 1.
1) Then it's their fault that they don't re-RNG.
2) I'm pointing out how ridiculous the idea is. Again.
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GB is leaning town.
Fk no.
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On July 04 2015 05:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
xactly in mayor election setup scum dont have to resist like they "have to" in normal lynches so lack of resistance tells me fuck all
...fair enough.
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On July 04 2015 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like he's running on a platform of "I'll lynch VE" that ORIGINATED when I voiced my original suspicion of Cixah. What you smokin LT?
That's more because your case was pretty "wat da fk"; there was already a large "bandwagon 6ah" train going on
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On July 03 2015 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 04:05 Cixah wrote:
I would also like to know what ogi you have on me VE because I know with 100% certainty I haven't spoken to anyone about this game at all out side of this thread. Only my second game of mafia ever and both of rolled town so I'm not exactly sure how you can claim I'm mafia when that's a 100% falsehood. I don't have any OGI on you, but the way you came at this argument (pointing out the impossibility of MY CLAIM rather than the impossibility of my CONCLUSION) leads me to believe that my random finger-pointing is onto something. But it's nothing OGI, simply good ol'-fashioned reaction testing. Your reaction was poor sir. My eyes are now inexorably drawn to everything you post. Make the most of it.
Like, this post.
He technically points out the impossibility of both your claim and conclusion. Albeit in different sentences.
Alright, fuck it, I'm done thinking. I elected an Austrian to do the thinking for me. This can't possibly go wrong.
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Hmm.
I will get back to you on that.
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