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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 03 2015 18:39 GMT
#461
including his drunken responses he does have the most posts in the thread so far.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 18:39 GMT
#462
On July 04 2015 03:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post.

Still,

On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.

I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me.

Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town.

Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town.

Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.

You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads).

The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.

One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.

pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch.

This is the section which I really don't like.


If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.

Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking.

Also,
#vote: Dandel Ion
Getting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement.

My order of preference:
Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else


Ugh, LT, this post...I don't know what to think.

For most of the day, I've gotten fairly town readings from you. But there are certain things (ie. strutting around that you're "confirmed town") that I really dislike about your play.

I find myself nodding along with a lot of the things you say in the above post. But I don't understand how you have a solid town read on dandel. He may not be lurking, but he's not contributed tons, and I'm not sure how you can have a strong read on anyone at this point.

But I am confirmed town. Here, let me confirm it for you.

Lord Tolkien is confirmed town


And honestly, I don't care what you think about me so long as you agree with my logic.
+ Show Spoiler +




And honestly, people who care too much about what town thinks of them are probably scum.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 03 2015 18:46 GMT
#463
I don't agree with your logic either.

Dandel who are you going to lynch?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 18:47 GMT
#464
On July 04 2015 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't agree with your logic either.

Dandel who are you going to lynch?

And that is why I don't trust you with a position of leadership.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 03 2015 18:52 GMT
#465
On July 04 2015 03:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't agree with your logic either.

Dandel who are you going to lynch?

And that is why I don't trust you with a position of leadership.

Yeah I'm done talking to you until you drop the arrogance.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 03 2015 18:53 GMT
#466
On July 04 2015 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Dandel who are you going to lynch?

question of the hour!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 03 2015 18:54 GMT
#467
even though i wasn't keen on the meme train taking leadership as much as i enjoyed laughing at it. tolk has convinced me that dankelion is probably town
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 03 2015 18:58 GMT
#468
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 03 2015 19:03 GMT
#469
##unvote
##vote dandel ion
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 19:05 GMT
#470
On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.

In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 19:06 GMT
#471
Plus at this stage, I can't get behind lynching lurkers because they don't give any alignment information based on who pushed what, since it would be a coin-toss. I expect BM and Holyflare to start posting more actively D2, or be shot N1.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 03 2015 19:09 GMT
#472
If you think either BM or HF get shot after playing like this today then I absolutely know your logic can't be trusted.
I would actually lynch HF today if for whatever reason we don't hit Cixah.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 19:10 GMT
#473
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 03 2015 19:12 GMT
#474
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10

Why is 6ah noob town scumbait and not Asmo?
If anything 6ah is the one with more previous mafia experience (I think?)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 19:12 GMT
#475
oh and to clarify on asmo's 2) and 3)
he also doesn't try to establish himself as a leadership position so really he's the definition of coasting

ok real talk over back to memes
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 03 2015 19:12 GMT
#476
Preflip association though I highly doubt the two of them are scum together, I'll say that much.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 19:12 GMT
#477
On July 04 2015 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10

Why is 6ah noob town scumbait and not Asmo?
If anything 6ah is the one with more previous mafia experience (I think?)

magnets
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 19:13 GMT
#478
also ive seen cixah in the last ot game he has like no experience i guarantee it
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 03 2015 19:14 GMT
#479
6ah played way better than this in the last game.
Like WAY better.

I am not convinced by noob town anything, nor by activity issues.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 19:14 GMT
#480
On July 04 2015 04:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you think either BM or HF get shot after playing like this today then I absolutely know your logic can't be trusted.
I would actually lynch HF today if for whatever reason we don't hit Cixah.

1) Shush nonbeliever. There remains a high probability that they still get shot, for reasons.

2) And if Holyflare is town, does he give us any information on the flip? Nope. D2 fucking absolutely lynch him if he continues on, but not D1.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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