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On July 04 2015 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
flipping for information lol
okay we only have one option left to salvage this
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
##Vote Holyflare
Yep.
You guys aren't giving me much to go on since I decided to .
On July 04 2015 02:14 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 02:11 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 02:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 04 2015 02:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 04 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 04 2015 01:49 ComaDose wrote:On July 04 2015 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Wave of Shadow
You DO realise that voting the guy that doesn't even know his alignment will make the flip way less informational, right? Because he doesn't even have motivation behind his votes I think this is a good point. If the one who is lynched flips mod, we can be reasonably sure that the mayor was not mod. If they flip town well... people make mistakes but based off of how many people agree with the decision it could still be telling. if we choose someone who doesnt know their alignment then they could pick mod but then still end up being mod themselves. Yeah except Tolk has openly stated he now thinks me and 6ah are scum together, so he's set himself up to be able to still push me/further discredit things I say. I'm so tempted just to vote Tolk to watch him mislynch just so I can lord it over him but that's shit play and also might be exactly what he's going for. I truly can't tell if he's just being an ass or if he has scum motives on this. I said it was interesting, not plausible or believable. Then why say it at all? Random conjecture like that is sketchy - it makes you able to say what you want, but no one can hold you accountable for it? "It's just a prank, bro" Was mostly a disjointed thought after waking up. I was considering how much VE deserved a lynch (the interesting relationship being something that made me want to lynch him more). If you join that with the post I made previously, it makes sense. So me VE and 6ah complete scumteam 36h into the game huh? Makes sense.
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The reason I would rather see 6ah killed off it because it provides a better picture of you and VE. 6ah cannot be scum with you or VE, hence the most informative flip.
On July 04 2015 02:12 ComaDose wrote:
LT you wound me. why would i be suspect #3 of yours? most obvious townie no longer i thinks. i vote me as your replacement.
Your vote post for pol was very fluffy. Nothing new or exciting and there were issues I took with it. You're trying, but there's pretty much a dearth of choice for me since I don't really want to lynch VE D1 (mostly because the only thing it sheds light on is 6ah). And I have like 4 null reads right now.
Asmo has also been fairly eh: all he's done is say he doesn't like BM voting him and "omgus, 6ah, you want to lynch me i vote u". And follow my suggestion to vote pol.
Also, Dandel is almost certainly town. I'm actually more comfortable voting him than Holyflare at this point.
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Mostly because all Holyflare has done is post memes and asked people to vote for him, but eh.
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i would also prefer that but hf already had a vote from some scummer IIRC
team memes does need to overtake team elect the claimed 3p that will surely go well
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On July 04 2015 02:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2015 02:12 ComaDose wrote:
LT you wound me. why would i be suspect #3 of yours? most obvious townie no longer i thinks. i vote me as your replacement. Your vote post for pol was very fluffy. Nothing new or exciting and there were issues I took with it. You're trying, but there's pretty much a dearth of choice for me since I don't really want to lynch VE D1 (mostly because the only thing it sheds light on is 6ah). And I have like 4 null reads right now.
Id love to hear what issues you took with it so i can learn from them.
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We only have 6hrs left to vote...
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Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post.
Still,
On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking.
I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me.
Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town.
Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town.
Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters.
You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads).
The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.
One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know.
pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch.
This is the section which I really don't like.
If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help.
Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking.
Also,
#vote: Dandel Ion
Getting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement.
My order of preference:
Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else
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On July 04 2015 02:58 ComaDose wrote:
We only have 6hrs left to vote...
EoD is the most busy time of day. It's fine.
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D1 Votecount
Asmo(2): Bill, Soniv
VE(1): Wave
Dandel(2): Mordek, LT
Plotspot(2): Asmo, Coma
Wave(1): GlowingBear
HolyFlare(3): VE, Dandel, Holyflare
Currently Holyflare is set to be elected as mayor with 3 votes. If there are any mistakes in the votecount, please notify the hosts immediately. Please vote with the correct format or your vote may not be counted.
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hmm okay thanks i didn't think about soft defense from a suspecting of scum position. And i combined meme'ing and lurking into one category because i honestly dont have any very scum reads.
VE hasn't said much besides voting since he stopped being pressured/trolled
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Excuse me LT I had a series of posts being suspicious of Cixah's general flakiness and you're not mentioning that all. If you don't feel like that's valuable, even though you seem to agree he's scum, pls explain to me why.
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On July 04 2015 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Excuse me LT I had a series of posts being suspicious of Cixah's general flakiness and you're not mentioning that all. If you don't feel like that's valuable, even though you seem to agree he's scum, pls explain to me why.
As I noted, what you did today of note is:
1) fk you 6ah
2) I'm suspicious of BM
This does make me want to kill 6ah more, mind you, because more alignment indication after flip, but hey.
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i voted for plotspot too which is not shown in the mod post
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My post definitely wasn't just "he's coming for me oh noez" but "he started completely on the me train with BM's randomness and then flipped ENTIRELY as people found a vote for me less appealing". That's what's weird to me. BM weirds me out too but Cixah's seems more sinister.
If I DID get mayor, he'd be my lynch atm. I just don't have a better candidate, especially since everyone seems way more aboard the dank memes team than I am. If that's how the town wants to play, okay, I just don't like the style.
If you genuinely think Dandel's the best choice, I want to hear why. I haven't heard a reason beyond vague assertions that his trolling is somehow a town play.
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And HF is set to be elected by the troll brigade I see.
You guys better get your shit together.
##unvote
##Vote: WaveofShadow
Until things get consolidated I want to make sure the lynch isn't just some ##420yoloblazeit that HF will be able to explain away later. Put 4 votes on somebody please.
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On July 04 2015 03:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
My post definitely wasn't just "he's coming for me oh noez" but "he started completely on the me train with BM's randomness and then flipped ENTIRELY as people found a vote for me less appealing". That's what's weird to me. BM weirds me out too but Cixah's seems more sinister.
If I DID get mayor, he'd be my lynch atm. I just don't have a better candidate, especially since everyone seems way more aboard the dank memes team than I am. If that's how the town wants to play, okay, I just don't like the style.
If you genuinely think Dandel's the best choice, I want to hear why. I haven't heard a reason beyond vague assertions that his trolling is somehow a town play.
Dandel trolls extensively as scum so I'm curious to hear this too.
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On July 04 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:Again, You're only on the list of people to lynch because at this stage I can't advocate lynching lurkers because no info on them right now (aka mordek and BM and co.), so it's flipping a coin, and I do like some of your recent posts after the vote post. Still, Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 05:10 ComaDose wrote:
Your right im always scared to point fingers too hard because at this point its all speculation and being wrong sucks and makes me look bad. I do think summarizing who pushed where like i did is valuable and know i will reference it later. I'll be completely honest instead of forcing anything and summarize what I'm thinking. I'm wrong all the time, and that doesn't phase me. Who cares if you're wrong at any given moment, as long as you make the most of the information you have, or are actively trying to fish for more information for town. Also, summaries are generally eh. They're an easy way for people to gain town-cred without actually contributing any new insight to town. Show nested quote +Lots of leanings pretty similar to what i wrote above. you wave and LT seemed to be doing town work but we will have to see if that continues today and i def wouldn't call it a hard read. Glowing bear leans town for me too but thats just because he has put some work in, even if he did incorrectly suspect me. Asmo leans town for me too saying things like "it would be bad for town for me to be mayor" and we bros now and im only bros with OT posters. You are correct in that I'm confirmed town, but this isn't too useful as a whole. Specifically, Asmo hasn't actually said or done anything particularly useful, since the "asmo for mayor" thing was mostly to test reactions. Also I'm fairly certain everyone's said this before, so this isn't really new reads or leanings (aka easy for scum to piggyback off other peoples' reads). Show nested quote +The shit storm seems to be revolving around VE and Cixah as the most likely lynches presently. I don't understand why people are mad at VE so much, and interestingly Cixah is the one who pointed the finger there first. He just seemed frustrated by the shit storm. before that he was legitimately leaning on people which appeared to me to be in good faith detective work. Im not sure if freaking out after getting fingered (heh) is really scummy or if its just frustrated townie. If I recall Cixah and Req reacted with the same frustration last game and both flipped town. I'm not clearing them by any means but its consistent with what i said at the time. On the flip side I havn't really seen Cixah contribute as most of his finger pointing has just been at who ever is not participating at the moment.
One thing I will point out is that you yourself seemed as eager to vote for asmo as cixah for the same logic. Nothing wrong with that as it was the start of D1 but lots of people were mad at cixah for the random push. But now he is calling for asmo's lynch and is doing a 180 really a scum thing to do if they know who is scum already? I don't actually know. pls no soft defense. You generally don't want to defend people up for lynches D1, since you want them to defend themselves. And if you're going to defend, go all out, because soft defending someone is scummy, especially D1. It's an easy way for scum to go "oh hey I knew he was town" but not actually stop the lynch. This is the section which I really don't like. Show nested quote +If i had to say who i thought was leaning mod I'd say BM, Dandel and HF for just abstaining for the most part from actually playing/contributing. BM has a serious asmo for mayor agenda I also don't understand. Mordek gets a pass cause he is on vacation i believe but need to hear more from him when he gets back. Sorry this is still just more speculation, hopefully letting you know what I'm thinking will help. Calling lurkers scum is easy, but not necessarily true in this level of play. Doesn't add anything of note. And Dandel isn't actually lurking. Also, #vote: Dandel IonGetting a really strong town read, and I trust his judgement. My order of preference: Myself=Dandel>pol>>>everyone else
Ugh, LT, this post...I don't know what to think.
For most of the day, I've gotten fairly town readings from you. But there are certain things (ie. strutting around that you're "confirmed town") that I really dislike about your play.
I find myself nodding along with a lot of the things you say in the above post. But I don't understand how you have a solid town read on dandel. He may not be lurking, but he's not contributed tons, and I'm not sure how you can have a strong read on anyone at this point.
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On July 04 2015 03:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
My post definitely wasn't just "he's coming for me oh noez" but "he started completely on the me train with BM's randomness and then flipped ENTIRELY as people found a vote for me less appealing". That's what's weird to me. BM weirds me out too but Cixah's seems more sinister.
If I DID get mayor, he'd be my lynch atm. I just don't have a better candidate, especially since everyone seems way more aboard the dank memes team than I am. If that's how the town wants to play, okay, I just don't like the style.
If you genuinely think Dandel's the best choice, I want to hear why. I haven't heard a reason beyond vague assertions that his trolling is somehow a town play.
Just based purely on the interactions I've had with him.
On July 03 2015 03:32 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2015 03:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Right now I vote the mayor lynch Holyflare. He's too quiet and honestly? I've played with scum!HF as both town and scum and he's a goddamn pain to figure out (if he's scum). you know sober i wqould lynch you fgor this but right now im very much in the favor of lynching ppl who are too much wordk
This is the correct response to attempting to lynch HF D1.
On July 04 2015 02:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
flipping for information lol
okay we only have one option left to salvage this
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
##Vote Holyflare
This is also the correct response to my reasoning.
I would still vote for information, mind you, but that's just me.
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Look at the discredit brigade showing up
##Unvote
##Vote: Dandel Ion
I'm in the lead now how do you feel about that bitches
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You guys seriously need to get better at filtering out his trolling from his actual posts.
It's painful and difficult, but he's actually posted alot of his opinions already.
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EPT
