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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 03 2015 20:03 GMT
#501
##unvote
##vote dandel ion

his one serious post made a lot of sense, and it will give us some better tells then plot i figure.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 20:13 GMT
#502
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.

In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?


Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 03 2015 20:20 GMT
#503
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.

In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?


Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.

As things stand if Dandel gets voted in 6ah doesn't even get lynched so I'm not sure what the big problem people are having is. I don't get what I want, everybody happy, right?

(In other news I feel like I would ninja lynch GB for funz. I dunno. Maybe I'm just itchy for some jank. Vote me people so I can jank.)
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 20:21 GMT
#504
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 20:23 GMT
#505
xactly in mayor election setup scum dont have to resist like they "have to" in normal lynches so lack of resistance tells me fuck all
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#506
i think i got too many votes too early im already thinking who i should yoloswag bigplays

ehm
that does not mean abort plan dandel
i got this
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2015 20:28 GMT
#507
On July 04 2015 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
i think i got too many votes too early im already thinking who i should yoloswag bigplays

ehm
that does not mean abort plan dandel
i got this


[image loading]
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 20:30 GMT
#508
[image loading]
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 20:32 GMT
#509
On July 04 2015 05:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
xactly in mayor election setup scum dont have to resist like they "have to" in normal lynches so lack of resistance tells me fuck all

...fair enough.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 03 2015 20:33 GMT
#510
On July 04 2015 05:32 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
xactly in mayor election setup scum dont have to resist like they "have to" in normal lynches so lack of resistance tells me fuck all

...fair enough.

And now you're just attempting to piss me off on purpose.
K I get it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 20:35 GMT
#511
On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.

In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?


Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.



I suppose that's true. I keep forgetting mayor is choosing. Now I don't want to vote either you or dandel in for mayor though, I hate yolo plays.

On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.


GB started to contribute, enough that I was starting to consider him town, you gave him your seal of approval, and then he disappeared. You seem so set on getting some good info with this lynch, but I'm not really sure what you're after. If you're hoping to validate one of your association theories, it feels like you're still aiming for a long shot.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 03 2015 20:36 GMT
#512
On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 03:58 Cixah wrote:
Reasons why you shouldn't lynch me.

1) In 100% games of mafia I have rolled town, and in 100% of games I have played with Asmo he has been Mafia.
2) Asmo's play is very similar to his previous game mafia play. Lots of poking and deflecting rather than saying anything that hasn't been echo'd or otherwise overly town.
3) While a non tryhard game, there are people who have contributed nothing to the game at all other than dank memes and were still looking to not lynch them? How is that even cool yo.

In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?


Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.

Actually there was instant pushback when I mentioned Cixah earlier by Dandel too.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 03 2015 20:37 GMT
#513
Like he's running on a platform of "I'll lynch VE" that ORIGINATED when I voiced my original suspicion of Cixah. What you smokin LT?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 03 2015 20:38 GMT
#514
On July 04 2015 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:05 Lord Tolkien wrote:
[quote]
In response to each.

1) Asmo wasn't scum in the last OT mafia, bro.
2) See above.
3) I do agree, but the lurkers are either 1) mordek and on vaca apparently, 2) Holyflare and Bill Murray, who are experienced at mafia (I can only assume with BM since I've never played with him), and are not viable D1 lynches (because you can generally assume if they live long enough, they're scum).

You're not a guaranteed kill, because Dandel wants to lynch VE (which...I'm iffy for flip info reasons but I can totally get behind), and I'm sure some people are thinking of lynching me D1 as usual, but eh. Try to not tunnel on Asmo.

What are your reads outside of Asmo?


Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.



I suppose that's true. I keep forgetting mayor is choosing. Now I don't want to vote either you or dandel in for mayor though, I hate yolo plays.

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.


GB started to contribute, enough that I was starting to consider him town, you gave him your seal of approval, and then he disappeared. You seem so set on getting some good info with this lynch, but I'm not really sure what you're after. If you're hoping to validate one of your association theories, it feels like you're still aiming for a long shot.

I will vote you if you lynch 6ah then.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 03 2015 20:39 GMT
#515
i mean i guess you could call it a chainsaw if you really wanted
A backwards poet writes inverse.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 03 2015 20:40 GMT
#516
On July 04 2015 05:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
i mean i guess you could call it a chainsaw if you really wanted

You can too. I never did, kid.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 20:40 GMT
#517
also, wave, we're allowed to be on the same page somtimes

we don't always have to fight bb
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 03 2015 20:40 GMT
#518
On July 04 2015 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:16 Cixah wrote:
[quote]

Stupid pen icon. Confusing it for OWB.

Outside of Asmo, My town circle consists of Soniv, Dandel, and Coma right now. Scum reads go for Wave, Asmo, and BM right now. Less so on BM, but I don't recall hearing from him in awhile.

Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.



I suppose that's true. I keep forgetting mayor is choosing. Now I don't want to vote either you or dandel in for mayor though, I hate yolo plays.

On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.


GB started to contribute, enough that I was starting to consider him town, you gave him your seal of approval, and then he disappeared. You seem so set on getting some good info with this lynch, but I'm not really sure what you're after. If you're hoping to validate one of your association theories, it feels like you're still aiming for a long shot.

I will vote you if you lynch 6ah then.


nvm, I guess we're not on same page lol
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 03 2015 20:42 GMT
#519
On July 04 2015 05:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 05:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
man do i actually have to explain it real logic like
ugh

I would real talk probably like 75% lynch asmo for
1)
On July 02 2015 21:07 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just so I'M not accused of doing nothing, [...]

2) His frankly puzzling stance on plotspot mayor - pushing a survivor/traitor based on his claim while caveating always a "oh but we should really try to find a townie!"
3) does not try to find a townie
4) pushing Cixah* like he did

Other options to contemplate are imo VE for getting baited* and then going full emo and pissing off
And Coma for not having opinions and instead doing summaries and captain obvious posting. real men admit when they don't have opinions and post memes. just look at hf. he is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
That's just from what I'm thinking, realistically I would never actually lynch coma today, if I was that desperate I'd just lynch the claimed traitor easy pickings ggyo real #dank

*I'm thinking cixah is noob town scumbait atm
as such not inclined to d1 lynch him personally
but if somebody else gets elected and killa him i would not shed tear 0/10


I'm beginning to think they both might be noob bait, tbh. I'm getting similar feelings to last game when I tunneled Req. Yes, the way both of them have been acting is scummy. It's the same thing I read on Req. But I was also wrong then.

You might be right, but again explain why if 6ah is noob bait that his play was exceptionally better last game?
(Also how did ranked go )


No, I mean, that's the issue. Although, to be frank, I don't remember his play last game being much of anything remarkable. But I do think he should know better, at least.

But I'm honestly starting to think LT is town (as much as I hate the arrogance). He is playing fairly similarly to the way you did last game - talk a lot, be aggressive, look at a lot of stuff. But the worst thing right now is the bullshit associations he's throwing everywhere.

On July 04 2015 04:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 04 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
[quote]
Explanation for the bolded why


To be honest, the increasing lack of pushback on a 6ah lynch up until dandel posted his asmo case, with everyone just ambling towards it, is very fishy.

This is never good evidence.
I've made this exact post as scum before.

It indicates one of two things.

1) easy lynch on town that scum is content on
2) + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Given how early the case on 6ah started to form, and, let's be honest, the fact that the game was suppose to be "not-tryhard", I doubt scum-team would bus 6ah this early.

Also, I do buy dandel's reasoning on asmo, though keeping in mind that asmo is also nub. Then again, he is Austrian, so this may lead to World War Two all over again if we elect him mayor. Still, my strongest town read.

WIth 4(?) hours to go it indicates absolutely nothing.
You also forget there are a shit ton of people not even here.

There are 3 people. HF, BM, and mordek, who lurked and has offered no opinion on 6ah.

As for everyone else, there has been some degree of "lynch 6ah now" from you/asmo/VE, to I'd be fine with lynching him/he's leaning scum (everyone else). Only 1 person "soft" defended them (Coma).

No counter-current whatsoever outside of coma who was lol.


I agree with you. Although Wave is partially right, with 4 hours left, janky things can happen with counter pressure. But the lack of resistance thus far is giving me pause as well.

On July 04 2015 04:03 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote dandel ion


Did you no longer wish to be mayor? Cuz yesterday, I said tomorrow.

It scares me that you and I are on the same page.
I often get bad feels when a lynch goes like this as well, but I don't see a reason not to lynch 6ah here other than 'welp, there's no resistance.'

OH WAIT a minute.
We don't even truly decide the lynch, so the fact that people are 'content' with things one way or another means even less in this part of the game because ultimately it's up to the whims of whoever is being voted in. That ONE person, not an entire town, can change his mind in a heartbeat and change the whole course of the day so there's no reason scum should feel unsafe even if they're being pointed out today.



I suppose that's true. I keep forgetting mayor is choosing. Now I don't want to vote either you or dandel in for mayor though, I hate yolo plays.

On July 04 2015 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:
GB is leaning town.

Fk no.


GB started to contribute, enough that I was starting to consider him town, you gave him your seal of approval, and then he disappeared. You seem so set on getting some good info with this lynch, but I'm not really sure what you're after. If you're hoping to validate one of your association theories, it feels like you're still aiming for a long shot.

I will vote you if you lynch 6ah then.


nvm, I guess we're not on same page lol

Wat
Well then who do you want to lynch? I thought it was 6ah up until now
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 03 2015 20:47 GMT
#520
On July 04 2015 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like he's running on a platform of "I'll lynch VE" that ORIGINATED when I voiced my original suspicion of Cixah. What you smokin LT?

That's more because your case was pretty "wat da fk"; there was already a large "bandwagon 6ah" train going on
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